The right-wing, anti-choice tool of the internet, The Daily Kos calls Tiller an "Abortion Provider"

[FLAprogressive]

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/5/31/737263/-Kansas-Doctor,-Abortion-Provider,-Assassinated-in-Church

those right-wing, anti-choice, MSM tools. they should be immediately tarred and feathered.

[spanone]

1. i prefer to call him a healthcare provider.

[freelancer3072]

2. I agree. I'm sure that abortions are only one service of many that this physician provided.

It's flaming (whether intentional or not) to say "abortion provider" when that's only one aspect of the services provided.

[FLAprogressive]

4. is that why he was murdered though? For the "other services" he provided?

I know it and you know it. It wasn't.

[freelancer3072]

10. Of course not. He was obviously murdered due to providing abortions. However,

I think flaming headlines like "Late-term abortion provider" only serve to prejudice people against the physician. I worry about the affects headlines like "late-term abortion provider" might have on anyone called to serve on the jury, if his murderer(s) go to trial. It could cause them to be more sympathetic towards his murderers, not him.

[FLAprogressive]

11. Yes but calling him just an OB/GYN would be inaccurate as well.

Your average OB/GYN doesn't perform late-term abortions.

[MADem]

28. It was his specialty. He said so on his website.

I posted an excerpt downthread. In fact, the title of his site was "Late Term Abortion Care."

I'm getting an impression that some here want to conceal the job he did. He wasn't just doing the job, he was also a vocal ADVOCATE for availability of this sort of care.

That's unfortunate, the number of people here who seem to be ashamed of an honest man doing an important, sad, distressing and very needed job, because it's the reason he died.

[FLAprogressive]

34. They're perpetuating the right-wing idea that abortion is somehow a shameful thing.....

He was quite proud of what he did and I'm sure was willing to die for it. Sadly, it turns out that that's what he did.

[MADem]

52. Precisely. And ironically, they're getting angry at anyone who dares to say "the word" for fear

that the right wing will hear, and point, or something.

It's pathetic. The man's life revolved around providing abortion services--difficult ones, too. He even posted statistics on his website (he had a great safety record). He didn't post statistics about how many pap smears he did, either. The entire website deals with "Late Term Abortion Care." Yet these angry posters want to pretend that he was just an OB/GYN, not one of the few doctors in the world who provided a vital service to women who came to him from all over the world.

It's pretty sick and unprogressive, this fear of the bullies on the right. The people who are shamed by the important and central work of this murdered doctor here astound me.

Statistics:

http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:wfaS_ayW3p0J:www.drtiller.com/fasum.html+late+term+abortion+care,+our+facilities,+george+tiller&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Here's the mini-bio from his site. It doesn't sound to me--or to anyone who can read-- like the man was touting his skill at doing pap smears. Also, if you look at his lectures, it is quite apparent what the focus of his practice was, no matter how much these minimizers here (for whatever reasons--shame, embarassment, fear--I have no idea) want to pretend otherwise:

http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:fur20sX7OdIJ:www.drtiller.com/medir.html+womens+health+services+informed+consent+george+tiller&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
Our
Medical
Director


Dr. George Tiller, M.D., DABFP

Dr. George Tiller has provided abortion services since 1973. He pioneered the use of sonogram imaging during surgery and other procedures that have been adopted as the standard of care for abortion providers nationwide.

Dr. Tiller is a Diplomat of the American Board of Family Practice Physicians. His vast experience over three decades of family medicine practice, both inpatient and outpatient, help him bring the excellence of diversity into focus on this very specialized area of medicine and women's health care. He has received numerous awards including the National Abortion Federation's highest honor, the Christopher Tietze Humanitarian Award and the Religious Coalition for Abortion Rights' Faith and Freedom Award.

CURRICULUM VITAE



1963 - 1967 University of Kansas School of Medicine
1967 - 1968 Internship U.S. Naval Hospital - Camp Pendleton, California
1968 - 1969 Naval Aero-Space Medical Institute Flight Surgeon Course
1969 - 1970 U.S. Navy Flight Surgeon - Oakland, California
1970 - present Private Practice/Family Medicine - Wichita, Kansas
1975 - present Director/Owner Women’s Health Care - Wichita, Kansas
1980 - 1991 Team Physicians, Wichita Wings, Major Indoor Soccer League
1987 - 1990 Medical Director, Women’s Alcoholism Treatment Services - Sedgwick County Health Department - Wichita, Kansas


WESLEY MEDICAL CENTER - WICHITA, KS
1970 - 1975 Chairman, Medical Records, Utilization, Pharmacy Committee - Department of Family Practice
1974 - 1980 Executive Committee Medical Staff
1979 President, Medical Staff


ORGANIZATIONS OF MEDICAL INTEREST
1968 - present American Medical Association
1973 - 1976 Medical Advisory Board - Kansas Planned Parenthood
1973 - present American Academy of Family Physicians
1978 - present National Abortion Federation member
1978 - present Religious Coalition for Abortion Rights member
1980 - 1987 Kansas NARAL member
1985 - 1986 NARAL - Tribute Committee
1985- present Medical/Legal consultations on abortion issues
1986 - present National Organization for Women
1987 - 1992 Member, Impaired Physicians Committee of Kansas Medical Society
1989 - present Co-Founder/Member, ProChoice Action League
2002 Foundation Board, National Coalition of Abortion Providers
2002 Physicians for Reproductive Choice and Health, Board Member


TEACHING EXPERIENCE
1970 - Present Clinical Instructor Family Medicine Residency, Wesley Medica Center/HCA Wesley
1973 - 1975 Volunteer Community Supervising Physician - Family Practice Residency - Wesley Medical Center
1976 - Present Clinical Instructor, Department of Family and Community Medicine - Wichita State Branch, University of Kansas
Present University of Kansas School of Medicine - Wichita State Branch/ HCA Wesley Medical Center


PRESENTATIONS AND LECTURES
1982 “Augmented D & E for Late Mid-Trimester Abortion”
1984 “Seeing is Better Than Feeling (Routine Ultrasound in the First Trimester)”
1985 “Induction Abortion as an Outpatient” - Family Practice Grand Rounds
1988 “1st Trimester Abortion With and Without Ultrasound - A Comparison of 16, 000 Patients” - National Abortion Federation Annual Meeting
1988 “Fruits, Spheres, and Soundwaves - Ultrasound and Abortion in the First Trimester” - Family Practice Lecture Series
1989 “Transvaginal Ultrasound in the First Trimester: An Asset or a Liability?” - National Abortion Federation Annual Meeting
1990 “Pre-op and Intra-operative Ultrasound in the First Trimester” - National Abortion Federation Annual Meeting
1992 “Empowering Physicians/Operation Rescue Survival” - National Abortion Federation Annual Meeting
1993 “Fetal Indications Termination of Pregnancy as an Outpatient: Experience with 340 Patients at 19 to 31 Weeks Duration” - National Abortion Federation Annual Meeting
1993 “Spirituality and Abortion Providers” - National Abortion Federation Annual Meeting Panel Discussion
1994 “Fetal Indications Termination of Pregnancy Program, January 1989-December 1993 Study”
1995 “Emerging Technologies: The Impact of Medical Abortion” - National Abortion Federation Annual Meeting Panel Discussion
1996 “Presentation of the Stillborn/Our Experiences with 1000 Fetal Indications Terminations of Pregnancy” - Abortion Matters: Amsterdam, the Netherlands (March)
1996 “Gifts of Understanding and the Pyramid of Reason” - Region IV Meeting of National Association of Genetic Counselors, Kansas City, MO (March)
1996 “Presentation of the Stillborn/Our Experiences with 1000 Fetal Indications Terminations of Pregnancy” - National Abortion Federation Meeting, San Francisco, CA (April)
1997 “Emotional Care of the Fetal Indications Termination of Pregnancy Patient” - National Abortion Federation Risk Management Meeting, St. Louis, MO (September)
1997 “Report to Providers: Experience with 1274 Fetal Indications Termination of Pregnancy Patients as Outpatients
1989-1997" - Private Communication with Referral Sources
1997 “Clinic Experience with Kansas Legislators” - Clinic Tour (October)
1999 “Understanding the ‘Late’ Abortion Patient” - Abortion Rights Fund of Western Massachusetts, Amherst College, Amherst, MA (January)
1999 “Understncy” - National Society of Genetic Counselors, Washington, DC (November)
2002 “The Effect of Previous Caesarian Section on Induction Termination of Pregnancy by the WHCS MOLD Technique: A Review of 4487 Late Abortion Patients” - National Abortion Federation Annual Meeting, San Jose, CA (April)
2002 “A Provider’s Perspective” - Medical Students for Choice, San Jose, CA (April)
2002 “Emotional Care of the Fetal Indications Termination of Pregnancy Patient” -- National Society of Genetic Counselors Annual Meeting, Phoenix, AZ (November)
2003 “A Career in 15 Minutes: Policies, Procedures, Protocols and Philosophies of Success” -- National Abortion Federation Risk Management Meeting, Seattle, WA (April)
2003 “Abortion Before It Was Legal” -- PRCH Video, Panel Discussion, National Abortion Federation Annual Meeting, Seattle, WA (April)
2003 “AD Claman Memorial Lecture: Emotional Care of the Patient With an Anomalous Fetus” - Women’s and Children’s Hospital of British Columbia, Vancouver, BC, Canada (April)
2003 “The Fundamentals of Fetal Indications Termination of Pregnancy” - Perinatal Grand Rounds, Women and Children’s Hospital of British Columbia, Vancouver BC, Canada (April)
2003 “A Career in 15 Minutes (Axioms and Over-Arching Principles of Late Terminations of Pregnancy)” - Medical Students for Choice, Seattle, WA (April)
2003 “Results, Rocket Science, and Religion: Lessons Learned from 5625 Abortion Patients” - National Society of Genetics Counselors Annual Meeting, Charlotte, NC (September)


ACCREDITATION
1973 - 2005 Diplomat, American Board of Family Practice
1989 - present Associate, American Society of Addiction Medicine


AWARDS
1973 - 1978 Active Teacher in Family Practice Award - American Academy of Family Practice
1992 Person of the Year, You Make a Difference Award - Planned Parenthood of Nebraska
1993 Faith and Freedom Award - Religious Coalition for Abortion Rights
1994 Christopher Tietze Humanitarian Award - National Abortion Federation
1997 25-Year Membership Award - American Academy of Family Physicians, Chicago, IL
1999 Reproductive Freedom Award - Abortion Rights Fund of Western Massachusetts, Massachusetts NARAL, Tapestry Health System
1999 Award for Outstanding Achievement in Women’s Health Care - Parke Davis Women’s Healthcare, Santa Barbara, CA
2003 AD Claman Memorial Award, A Lifetime of Contribution to Women’s Health - Women and Children’s Hospital of British Columbia
2003 Jer Symposium Internacional Multicultural en Salud Reproductiva
2003 David Gunn Award for Providing Abortion Services with Courage and Compassion - National Coalition of Abortion Providers
2003 “Reproductive Care and Compassion Award” - Planned Parenthood of New York City, New York, NY







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Wichita, Kansas USA 67218
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WHCS Home | Informed Consent Information | If You Are Pregnant Booklet
Our Facility | Our Fees | Our Staff | Our Medical Director | Chaplaincy Program
Late Abortion Care for Fetal Anomaly | Late Abortion Care Elective
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[omega minimo]

21. He was murdered because the "Pro Life" people are insane hypocrites.

[FLAprogressive]

35. Exactly.

[stray cat]

6. He is a healthcare provider but thats not why he was targeted

[FLAprogressive]

9. please tell that to everyone else.

[BlooInBloo]

3. Nice of them to provide a profile of the terrorist...

"Police had said they were looking for white male who was driving a 1990s powder blue Ford Taurus with Kansas license plate 225 BAB. The vehicle is registered to an owner in Merriam, which is in the Kansas City area. "

[Chorophyll]

5. On the NY Times website, the headline described him as

an "Abortion Doctor." An hour later, they revised it to "Doctor Who Performed Abortions." But just look at how right-wing rhetoric has infiltrated the mass media! The New York Times for chrissakes.

:puke:

[Bluebear]

55. Disgraceful.

[greyl]

7. That's a stupid comment to make.

It's like you didn't read the article at all.

[MADem]

53. The OP was being ironic.

There are people on this forum who are embarrassed to use the "A" word, and want to pretend that aspect of the doctor's life was somehow a sideline, when in fact he was a pioneer in developing a safe, late term procedure. This thread is a response to those people who want to insist the man was "just" an OB/GYN, and didn't perform hundreds of late-term procedures for women needing that sort of care who came to him from all over the world.

[cherokeeprogressive]

8. Just a word to the wise...

There are probably dozens of alerts on your thread title already. Take the advice you offered me earlier... watch out.

[cali]

12. he was an abortion provider. And he referred to himself that way

furthermore, the kos article is one that pays homage to Dr. Tiller and his rare courage. YOU are completely distorting the article.


George Tiller was an abortion provider. Abortion is a vital womens' health service.

[FLAprogressive]

13. I'm being sarcastic. take a look at most of the outrage posts over the MSM's use of the term

"abortion provider"/"abortion doctor"/etc. they want the MSM to call him an OB/GYN which would be clearly misleading.

[EFerrari]

22. How would that be misleading? I'll be out for 15 minutes

so you have plenty of time to consider your answer.

[omega minimo]

24. It appears that on the day of this great tragedy, you want to play word games and piss people off.

[FLAprogressive]

30. uh no. It's the others who are fixated on word games. see all the angry threads

about the MSM terming him as an "abortion doctor"

[omega minimo]

50. Show some respect

[Bluebear]

51. .

[BostonMa]

14. u acting crazy u know?

[Name removed]

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[FLAprogressive]

29. well that's certainly the first time I've been called a "Christofascist".

That's funny, seeing as I'm agnostic.

[Moses2SandyKoufax]

31. You were called an apologist.

[FLAprogressive]

33. See Reply #23

I just think it's ridiculous that people are so upset over the MSM calling him an "abortion doctor" when that's what he called himself!

[Name removed]

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[FLAprogressive]

37. I'm not the one who's playing "word games".

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=5755130&mesg_id=5755130

There's a whole thread of OUTRAGE over the term "abortion doctor" -- a term which I'm sure Tiller used himself and would have been proud of.

People who want to call him some PC-term are just continuing the right wing meme that abortion is somehow something that women should be ashamed of.

[Moses2SandyKoufax]

You're fucking low.

Someone who refers to themselves as "progressive" shouldn't talk about "PC-terms", and "continuing right wing memes".

[FLAprogressive]

39. how is highlighting a meme of the right wing not progressive?

You so obviously don't read my post.

the right-wing abortion meme is one that puts shame around abortions and women who have them. People who somehow want "abortion" removed from Dr. Tiller's title are just perpetuating the RW meme that abortion is the boogeyman and something to be ashamed of.

Tiller took pride in his work....I'm sure he would have taken pride in the term "abortion provider" -- as many people who provide abortions do.

[Moses2SandyKoufax]

40. He was an OB/GYN.

His services were not limited to abortions.

[FLAprogressive]

41. Did women come from all over the world to his clinic for pap smears?

He called himself an abortion provider. I'm sure he wouldn't have taken offense to someone else calling him the same term.

[Moses2SandyKoufax]

44. Local women might have. n/t

[The Straight Story]

43. Did he or did he not provide abortions?

And why are you so worried over what term is used to describe him?

Guess I am not a poster on DU, I am just an internet poster....

[Moses2SandyKoufax]

45. He did.

Was his services limited to abortions.

[FLAprogressive]

48. From the front page of his own website:

Women's Health Care Services is a professional organization dedicated to providing expert, confidential, and respectful abortion care. We have a national and international reputation for providing the highest quality abortion services in a safe and caring environment. Kindness, courtesy, justice, love and respect are the cornerstones of our patient-provider relationships.

We have an unparalleled record of safey in late abortion services and we have more experience in late abortion services over 24 weeks than anyone else currently practicing in the Western Hemisphere, Europe and Australia.

"Women and Families are intellectually, emotionally, spiritually, and ethically competent to struggle with complex health issues -- including abortion -- and come to decisions that are appropriate for themselves."

-- George R. Tiller, M.D., DABFP
Medical Director
Women's Health Care Services, P.A.

----

Pretty much.

[Bluebear]

17. Jeepers, TWO 'progressive' handles all in a knot about this in one thread!

[Moses2SandyKoufax]

20. You noticed that too, eh?

[EFerrari]

18. You would have been further ahead to ask the sincere question. n/t

[Bluebear]

19. I don't use it often, but:

[grasswire]

26. that's a brilliant little animated comment

brilliant!

[Bluebear]

49. :)

[MADem]

23. That's what DR. Tiller called himself. Apparently, we've got some people here who have a problem

with the doctor's own description.

Talk about "PC" run amok! From the late doctor's own website: http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:5GA-IlmmIBIJ:www.drtiller.com/+tiller+website&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Late Term Abortion Care

Women's Health Care Services is a professional organization dedicated to providing expert, confidential, and respectful abortion care. We have a national and international reputation for providing the highest quality abortion services in a safe and caring environment. Kindness, courtesy, justice, love and respect are the cornerstones of our patient-provider relationships.

We have an unparalleled record of safey in late abortion services and we have more experience in late abortion services over 24 weeks than anyone else currently practicing in the Western Hemisphere, Europe and Australia.

"Women and Families are intellectually, emotionally, spiritually, and ethically competent to struggle with complex health issues -- including abortion -- and come to decisions that are appropriate for themselves."

-- George R. Tiller, M.D., DABFP
Medical Director
Women's Health Care Services, P.A.

[Buzz Clik]

25. No kidding. Thank you for injecting some sanity into this discussion.

[Occulus]

27. Oh, there's a much simpler explanation for it than that

;)

[FLAprogressive]

32. Well then, he was clearly a Christofascist.

[cali]

38. stop it.

just please stop it. or better yet, run back to your sick, filthy little "progressive" sandbox and pen more poisonous lies about DUers.

You need help.

[FLAprogressive]

42. Do you object to calling him an abortion provider? A title he called himself?

So many DUers do....

I'm just being attacked because I'm not a DLC shill.

[cali]

46. no. obviously I don't. you saw my other post in this thread.

I think you're playing sick little games. And the reason people are taking issue with you has nothing to do with the DLC. It has to do with your shit stirring over a tragedy that people are upset about it.

[FLAprogressive]

47. And I'm saying that people are misdirecting their anger

they're getting angry at the MSM over nomenclature instead of getting angry at right-wing extremism.

[MADem]

54. And I am agreeing with you, FWIW. AND, I also think that some of the angry folks

have a problem with the word

ABORTION

.

It's almost as though they believe the word has the power to bring down the wrath of the right, or they're embarrassed, or ashamed, or something.

I have to hand it to this doctor. He was a brave guy on many levels. He did a difficult job and he was murdered for doing it.

He understood, too, that he was providing a vital service, one that most doctors didn't have the skill or fortitude to do--not only is the procedure a bit, well, to be blunt, grisly, but he was also dealing with highly distressed patients who were not seeking abortion as an ultimate outcome to their pregnancies. He was dealing with mostly married women who wanted kids, who were happily pregnant, but the whole business went horribly wrong and the foetus was malformed or nonviable. It takes a special person to do that kind of work, and do it safely, and compassionately.

[colinmom71]

56. I think he's someone whose medical training happened at a time when illegal abortions killed...

Women. For some insight to those often forgotten times, please listen to this documentary...

"From the Back Alleys, to the Supreme Court, and Beyond" - http://www.albany.edu/history/FromTheBackAlleys.html