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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 07:08 PM
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The Cheney's Are Lying
Edited on Sat May-30-09 07:09 PM by lame54
http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/carl-levin-calls-out-dick-cheney-torture-memos (for video)

From C&L:

Dick Cheney and his daughter have been on a literal media blitz calling for the release of memos they claim would prove torturing prisoners prevented future attacks on America. Former C&L'er Steve Benen joined Rachel Maddow to weigh in on Carl Levin's debunking of the tag team's talking points. As Steve notes in his blog at Washington Monthly:

But perhaps Levin's most newsworthy remarks referenced the classified materials Cheney believes document the alleged terror attacks prevented by torture.

"Mr. Cheney has also claimed that the release of classified documents would prove his view that the techniques worked. But those classified documents say nothing about numbers of lives saved, nor do the documents connect acquisition of valuable intelligence to the use of the abusive techniques. I hope that the documents are declassified so that people can judge for themselves what is fact and what is fiction."

It's worth emphasizing that Levin is, of course, privy to the same materials Cheney has been talking about.

His remarks are hardly surprising, but it's nevertheless helpful to hear Levin reject the most common claim Cheney has pushed for months now -- the documents in question don't say what Cheney thinks they say.

As Steve points out during the interview, if this is going to come down to who has more credibility with the public, it ain't gonna' be Dick Cheney.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 10:24 PM
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1. Yes and bless their hearts, they are keeping the media focus on torture.
If they were to crawl under a rock like they should, the corp-media would be glad to forget all about torture. But the more the Cheney's squirm the more attention gets drawn to the torture issue.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 10:28 PM
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2. How do you know: because they have lips.
Edited on Sat May-30-09 10:29 PM by bleever

Even if they aren't able to keep them from curling into contorted curlicues of contemptuous contumely.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 10:29 PM
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3. Lips moving? Then they're lying.
It's that simple.
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annm4peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 10:34 PM
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4. The Cheney's should be hanged
I rarely believe in capitol punishments.. but for them. I believed they should be hanged.
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ControlledDemolition Donating Member (901 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 10:37 PM
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5. Dick! Is it now O.K. to release the minutes of those secret energy policy pow-wows? n/t
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Harry Monroe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 10:45 PM
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6. And in other news, the sun rises in the east.
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RushIsRot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 11:35 PM
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7. Yeah, and water is wet, and fire is hot. Just their natures.
I'd never expect anything different.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 12:40 AM
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8. that's redundant
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 12:03 PM
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9. .
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818181 Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 12:06 PM
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10. If torture is so successful where the hell is OSAMA BIN LADEN?
i haven't heard that question put to the Cheney's, yet... maybe we can start an internet campaign :evilgrin:

not to mention the FACT that it is ILLEGAL :argh:

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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 12:18 PM
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11. Thou doth protest too much
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 01:10 PM
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12. Answer to subject line:
Were their lips moving again?
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