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Christa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 05:57 AM
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Torturing Democracy - a must see documentary
Edited on Sat May-30-09 06:00 AM by Christa
Last night I watch the documentary "Torturing Democracy" by Bill Moyers, on PBS. It was not an easy documentary to watch, but I urge everyone to do so and to spread the word about it. It should be shown on mainstream media, but hell would freeze over before that happens.


"Torturing Democracy" begins at 9/11 and recounts how the Bush White House and the Pentagon decided to make coercive detention and abusive interrogation the official U.S. policy on the war on terror. In sometimes graphic detail, the documentary describes the experiences of several of the men who were held in custody, including Shafiq Rasul, Moazzam Begg, and Bisher al-Rawi, all of whom eventually were released. Charges never were filed against them and no reason was ever given for their years in custody.

The documentary traces how tactics meant to train American troops to survive enemy interrogations -- the famous SERE program ("Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape") - became the basis for many of the methods employed by the CIA and by interrogators at Guantanamo and in Iraq, including waterboarding (which inflicts on its victims the terror of imminent death), sleep and sensory deprivation, shackling, caging, painful stress positions, and sexual humiliation.

"We have re-created our enemy's methodologies in Guantanamo," Malcolm Nance, former head of the Navy's SERE training program, says in "Torturing Democracy." "It will hurt us for decades to come. Decades. Our people will all be subjected to these tactics, because we have authorized them for the world now. How it got to Guantanamo is a crime and somebody needs to figure out who did it, how they did it, who authorized them to do it... Because our servicemen will suffer for years."

In addition to its depiction of brutality, "Torturing Democracy" also credits the brave few who stood up to those in power and said, "No." In Washington, there were officials of conviction horrified by unfolding events, including Alberto Mora, the Navy's top civilian lawyer, Major General Thomas Romig, who served as Judge Advocate General of the U.S. Army from 2001-2005 and Lieutenant Colonel Stuart Couch, a former senior prosecutor with the Office of Military Commissions.

If we want to know what torture is, and what it does to human beings, we have to look at it squarely, without flinching. That's just what a powerful and important film, seen by far too few Americans, does. "Torturing Democracy" was written and produced by one of America's outstanding documentary reporters, Sherry Jones.

Sherry Jones and the film were honored this week with the prestigious RFK Journalism Award from the Robert F. Kennedy Center for Justice and Human Rights. "Torturing Democracy" was cited for its "meticulous reporting," and described as "the definitive broadcast account of a deeply troubling chapter in recent American history."



http://blog.buzzflash.com/contributors/1983

Watch it here: http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/torturingdemocracy/program/

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armyowalgreens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 05:58 AM
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1. K&R changed my life.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 05:59 AM
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2. K&R Everyone needs to watch
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azul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 06:42 AM
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3. I watched it, and just woke up in a nightmare.
That I was drowning and going under calling out for help.

I'm not kidding.

I knew some one here would be commenting on it. thanks
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 06:52 AM
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4. Read the transcript as well
It was painful to watch.

Hubby is away so I played this to calm down
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=az874nKdgP0&feature=related
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 07:01 AM
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7. I sometimes can't sleep at night from all the images streaming through my mind
Everything, from the various photos and news accounts to Bush's face/voice (and Cheney's and Rumfelds', etc..), overwhelms me and sleep just will not come.

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Christa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 07:22 AM
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8. I know the feeling
:hug:
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 08:08 AM
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10. And to you!
:hug:

The nation has been traumatized by the Bush administration. :(

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Voice for Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 06:54 AM
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5. Just saw it on Youtube, in 9 parts.
It's so well-done. My feeling was, these people are going to go down, one way or another. If Obama isn't going to do it, the international courts will. There's already more than enough evidence to convict all of them.
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azul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 08:47 AM
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12. Spreading around the world for all to see,
that the US must be brainwashed or thuggish to have this horrible and overwhelming evidence and yet do nothing.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 07:00 AM
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6. "Smirk." - xCommander AWOL & Republicon Homelander Cronies
Edited on Sat May-30-09 07:01 AM by SpiralHawk
"You Americans just don't appreciate our Republicon Homelander Family Values. Smirk."

- xCommander AWOL & Republicon Homelander Cronies

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 07:27 AM
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9. Where's Cheney
He should be in that graphic jerking off. :hi:
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 09:09 AM
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13. "Sneer" - xVP Dickie 'Five-Military Deferments' Cheney (R)
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 06:52 PM
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16. LOL
:rofl:
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 08:32 AM
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11. Recommended
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Christa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 09:23 AM
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14. Shameless kick
as I think everyone should see it.
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 03:57 PM
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15. K & R
Highly recommended. Very difficult to watch, but needs to be seen.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 06:53 PM
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17. If you watch this, you will never again have a problem
Edited on Sat May-30-09 06:54 PM by EFerrari
holding Bush/Cheney accountable no matter what. You won't.
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 07:03 PM
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18. Honestly, I thought it was too tame and restrained
I think it may have been made before some of the more recent revelations.

I'm glad it was made, but it could have gone further. And *that* is disturbing.
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 07:12 PM
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19. I wish..
I wish that someone would act on this. I have a feeling no one ever will. That this past administration will go free without any consequences is so very wrong. There will be no real justice in the world, if these people don't pay for their crimes. If the people responsible for this go free, then surely the green light is given for future generations to behave the same, or worse. The President and his administration can create any situation and always be above the law.
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