Obama joked about gay protesters asking him to keep promises

[boston bean]

http://www.americablog.com/2009/05/obama-jokes-about-gay-protesters-asking.html

[Howardx]

1. no he didnt.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5736643

[Mari333]

3. for petes sake he said in the speech he didnt even know what they were protesting

thats insulting enough

[Smarmie Doofus]

10. ...what with so many peasants skulking about. nt

[Maru Kitteh]

26. All Presidents face protests literally EVERYWHERE they go. Were you naive enough to believe that

Obama would not, or that he would know what every single protest is about, every single time? That's just daft.

[arcadian]

34. Your post is the most ignorant I've seen on the internet in a long time.

Do you know what a Presidential Advance team is? They know what the situation on the ground is at all times, potential threats, general mood and atmosphere of a location the President will be visiting. They damn sure knew that a very important ruling would be laid down by the California Supreme Court on the day that the President would be visiting that very same state.

[kevinbgoode]

44. You apparently don't watch the press briefings, especially during

the last couple of weeks.

[Howardx]

12. he also said he liked the fact that someone said that

but you ignore that part in favor of faux outrage.

[Bluebear]

16. It's always "faux" outrage when it comes to those hysterical gays

[Howardx]

25. its faux outrage when...

youre screaming about something that didnt happen. hysterical gays or not.

[kevinbgoode]

45. What is hysterical is that you seem totally unaware of how his

Administration has been handling questions during the daily press briefings. And apparently President "Separate but Equal" Obama is unaware as well.

[Divine Discontent]

32. yep, we get all upset for NO reason ever... I will say, they are intent on doing nothing on GLBT

(DADT) issues until 2010 from what they said shortly after he was elected. I think it'd be wrong for Mr. Obama to say that he didn't know what they were saying keep your promise about - he almost looked pissed off his honor was insulted, to boot - but if he really thought about it, he knew what the heck they were protesting. He just doesn't want to confront it this year.

We're thrown to the back of the bus, or under it, every time. What is certain, if not this year, but next year, during an ELECTION cycle, and they don't get rid of DADT, I won't do SHI-OTT for any Democratic candidate.

The naysayers claim, fine if you wanna cut your own throat, go ahead, but what's the point, each time we get in a position to advance our rights, it's not prudent to do so at this juncture!

BAH!

[Mari333]

38. how patronizing of him

he liked the protesters. wow, thats real change. how about he gets his butt out there and speak with them and take what they are saying seriously.

[truedelphi]

40. There's a thought.

Has he met with any REAL PEOPLE in the last thirty days?

Does he know about any side of any issue other than the stuff the Rahm brothers feed him?

Granted we little people didn't fund his mighty and victorious campaign for the Presidency

Oh wait a minute -- we DID! In fact, on Election Night, my husband got a text meessage thanking him for the Obama victory and saying that without our hosusehold's help, he could not have achieved that victory.

How soon they forget.

[QC]

43. Let them kick in $30k for a couple of plates of chicken

and he will listen to them.

Otherwise, no.

[Bluebear]

4. So Americablog is lying?

[Enrique]

6. no the NYT lied

they made it sound like he was dissing the protestors with his Hollywood pals, but when you look at the video he was sincere and totally respectful of them.

[Bluebear]

9. I will consider his sincerity & respect when he fulfills his campaign promises

[Yukari Yakumo]

17. And just what campaign promises did he make? (Other than those you keep making up in your head) nt

[Bluebear]

18. I won't dignify answering an asshole question.

[hfojvt]

33. there are a couple of paragraphs quoted at the Americablog link

I'd serve him/her the crow so they won't be able to think that you can't.

[kevinbgoode]

46. Are you trying to say that you are completely unaware of

the campaign promises made in regards to the GLBT community?

[Boomerang Diddle]

27. It wouldn't be the first time.

Americablog jumped the shark during the Rick Warren controversy when John Aravosis got busted making up lies about Obama and Warren.

[Bluebear]

29. Right, please cite those lies

[jsamuel]

8. uh, that link just repeats the op

[Mari333]

2. good analysis of it nt

[boston bean]

5. the analysis is this. he won't keep his promise on DADT . if you believe any bullshit other wise

you are an enabler.

[Bluebear]

7. I assure you Mari is on the side of equal rights

[boston bean]

13. okie dokie, my sincere apologies to mari! nt

[jefferson_dem]

11. My biggest hope for Obama is that he steps up and spearheads a nationwide effort for equal rights.

That being said, this is a petty point by americablog. It was a light-hearted remark. That's all.

[Bluebear]

15. Anything lighthearted with regards to LGBT issues in California yesterday was ill-timed

[jefferson_dem]

19. Perhaps.

I like the way the President commends protesters for demanding that he keep his promises...and I suspect he will do that. I also fully understand that governing is about prioritizing. If we don't see real movement on DADT by the mid-terms, I'll be in the streets with sign-in-hand too.

[boston bean]

21. why in the world would you wait, when gay and lesbian soldiers are losing their careers and with the

stroke of a pen Obama can undo that.

Did Obama make any statement about Prop 8????

He is nothing but a weak kneed political scaredy cat when it comes to risking any political capital in doing the right thing.

NOW is the time to be making the bold decisions. He has huge majorities.

I don't know about you, but if we say wait til the mid terms, that turns into wait until he is re elected.

Who will want to re elect him if her renegs on all his promises for what he thinks is politcal gain, because liberals have no other place to go. Screw that kind of politics. Is that change???

[jefferson_dem]

30. Everyone wants something from the President....like NOW.

We are five and a half months in. As I said, I'll be patient and expect him to do the right thing, given the complexities ushering through the bold agenda he has laid out. If mid-term arrives and we haven't seen significant meaningful action, I'll share your outrage.

[Bluebear]

35. Dan Choi didn't have that long :(

[jefferson_dem]

39. We know...

Magic wands would be great, to solve everyone's issues right away. Politics - American-style - don't work like that. You know that, right?

[Bluebear]

42. Obama has the magic wand. A pen. He could use it TOMORROW & stop disrupting lives

[vi5]

14. And the uproar over this is why he can keep doing this....

..I personally think Obama has been shitty on gay rights both in his actions (not overturning DADT) and his inactions and his silence on what is going on all over the country. I think he's been a horrible president for gay rights and there's any number of things for everyone to be outraged over.

But it's this relentless focus on things like this off the cuff remark or tiny little things rather than the big, actionable, and truly egregious affronts to gay rights that does nothing to further the cause or get his attention or force his hand.

[jefferson_dem]

23. Agreed wholeheartedly.

Dissatisfaction is understandable but let's keep things in perspective. It's about the policies -- not a tepid lighthearted quip like this. And all the over-the-top outrage will only hinder the cause of policy change.

[boston bean]

24. People were protesting becasue of his POLICIES.... nt

[jefferson_dem]

31. No shit.

But now people are outraged over the quip... Focus.

[realitythink]

20. If he didn't know he should have

How can you defend him on this? He had to know that hundreds of people were going to turn out and protest the Prop 8 decision and he certainly is aware that people are being dismissed over DADT. He has responded to letters from military personnel who've been dismissed. Don't tell me he wasn't aware of who those people were and what they were there for. He hasn't said one fucking word about the Prop 8 issue. For christ sake can't he at least acknowledge it? Even LBJ looked better than this.

I'm really sick of all you Obama sycophants on this site. I voted for him and want him to lead the way he campaigned and I will not just sit back on my ass and defend everything he says and does. That would make me no better than some knucklehead at little green footballs or what ever the fuck that site is.

Get real people, he dissed those protesters, in his oh-so stylistic way.

[Duncan Grant]

22. It's just informal teasing really. It's Obama's way of expressing affection.

I feel so loved. I'm just a warm gay cinnamon toasty pop tart of a Democrat.

[realitythink]

28. That sarcasm, I hope

[Duncan Grant]

36. That would be sarcasm.

It must have been the cinnamon that threw you! :hi:

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[Thickasabrick]

41. How can anyone defend this? Jesus, take off the rose colored

glasses! If anything this president is one of the smartest in history - that is fact. It was well publicized there would be gay protests upon his arrival in regards to DADT and the lack of his support to repeal the Defense of Marriage Act.

This was the most heartless behavior I have ever seen in my president. It was shameful, especially in light of the disappointing ruling on Tuesday.