"Four failed Presidencies and this guy still thinks his shit doesn’t stink."

[Contrary1]

:headbang: Rock on, Ladies.

"...I have to admit that I am more than a little perplexed by Dick’s rise to power. He flunked out of Yale – something even George W. Bush didn’t do – and has at least two DWI’s on his record – one more than Georgie Boy. So basically from 2001 to 2009 we had two dry-drunk idiots running the country. But only one of them has had the good sense to shut the hell up since leaving office.

Cheney came into politics as part of the Nixon administration and ended his politcal career with George W. Bush. Along the way he managed to skip the Reagan years opting instead to represent the least populous state in the Union. In fact, of the past five Republican presidents since Cheney got into politics, the only one that Dick didn’t work for was Ronald Reagan. Talk about a guy who can’t pick a winning horse. He works for Nixon, Ford, skips Reagan, and then comes back for the two Bushes. Four failed Presidencies and this guy still thinks his shit doesn’t stink. Of course this is the guy who headed up the vice presidential search for George W. Bush only to decide to pick himself as the candidate. I’d say he’s mastered the art of not smelling his own shit."

http://margaretandhelen.wordpress.com/

[begin_within]

1. Yeah why is he getting so much airtime?

[troubledamerican]

14. Many mysteries surrounding Cheney.

Read Peter Dale Scott regarding Cheney/Rumsfeld working on COG ("Continuity Of Government" plans on who takes control of goverment in the event of a total massacre of federal government).

Cheney's ubiquitous presence in the media (contrast: Cheney 2001-2008). Because he "fears prosecution"?

Cheney's publicity campaigns against Obama began before the torture debate, centered on questions of "safety". Cheney's interested in much more than torture prosecutions.

Why? Does Cheney have plans in politics?

Seymour Hersh says Cheney left a "stay behind" for the purposes of influencing policy. "Stay behind" is a term denoting false flags in Europe (see Operation Gladio in Wikipedia). What is Seymour Hersh saying between-the-lines, about Cheney & his "stay behinds"?

Why is Cheney campaigning for the "voice of the GOP"?

[The Hope Mobile]

25. Welcome to DU nt

[truedelphi]

34. Yeah, it really would be interesting to peek inside of Hersh's brain now and then

Especially right about now to see what he really knows about Cheney.

He is one of the few journalists out there that doesn't always reveal everything. Example: when an American GI in Iraq knew that 36 Iraqis had been snuffed, Hersh did not go ahead with the ground-breaking story. He wanted to avoid having to name said Gi and have the guy end up snuffed himself. (It would have been an indirect snuff operation - all you need to die in Iraq is one too many assignments down the Highway of Death)

[gratuitous]

2. "What is . . . "

"What is obvious commentary on current events you won't see anywhere in the popular media, Alex?"

[jeff30997]

3. "only one of them has had the good sense to shut the hell up since leaving office"

:rofl:

[Ken Burch]

7. Or maybe Dubbikins has been passed out in an alley since January 20th.

n/t.

[jeff30997]

12. ROFL

OMG ! That's hilarious! :rofl:

[Enthusiast]

36. LOL. yeah, Dubbikins.

:rofl:

[asjr]

27. He has been too busy picking

up Barney's poop from the sidewalk.

[Historic NY]

52. nah he is picking up Barney sh-t with a plastic bag. Probably does happy hour too.

[Tangerine LaBamba]

4. Helen Philpot for President........

She's got my vote.

[unapatriciated]

40. I love Margaret and Helen.....

didn't realize her last name was Philpot, same as my OB who delivered my children. He was a great man, didn't have Insurance for my middle son so he charged me what I could afford to pay. He Also donated his time and opened his home to raise money for the clinic he volunteered in. May he RIP he really cared for his fellow man.

[Tangerine LaBamba]

43. I went to school in Maine,

and Philpot is a very common name there.

What a lovely man you encountered. Someone who did the right thing. Yes, may he RIP, indeed .............

[MajorChode]

5. Raygun was a "winning horse"?

He was arguably the worst of the 4, although it's a definite close call on Bush43 and Nixon.

[unblock]

10. winning horse in the sense of sustained and enduring popularity

certainly relative to the others republicans on that list.

that he used that popularity and power to lead us down a ruinous road is a matter of substance, not politics.

he was not a wise horse or a good horse or a responsible horse, but he was a winning horse.

[MajorChode]

11. I see what you're driving at, I'm just not sure who won

His enduring popularity is only a testament to the Republican myth perpetuation and is part of the same smear machine that painted Carter as a bad president.

[Aragorn]

17. people buy it though

and continue to buy it. Dems use propaganda too of course.

[MajorChode]

41. Dems might use propoganda, but not nearly to the extent of Repugs

Here are two commonly held, but very untrue myths which are even accepted by some from all of the political spectrum:

1) Raygun was a great president

Raygun was a mediocre president at best, and that's if you choose to ignore his failures. He's given credit for many things he didn't do and gets little blame for things he fucked up.

2) Carter was a bad president

Carter inherited the financial train wreck that Nixon created and Ford perpetuated. He did correct them and those corrections persisted into Raygun's administration for which he got credit. Carter also implemented many brilliant energy policies which we still benefit from today. He also had one of the best foreign policies before or since.

I'm not even going to go into the myths about Clinton. The thing that the Democrats are the worst at is combating those myths, but they are up against a formidable obstacle in the wingnut pundit lie machine. If repeated often enough, some people are just going to accept lies as the truth.

[unblock]

53. on every point, agreed.

carter certainly got a bum deal. people associate the nixon-ford oil embargoes with carter.
and people widely credit carter-appointee paul volker with ending the stagflation that was the inevitable result. yet republicans have managed to confuse the history and blame everything on carter and credit everything to reagan.

reagan put through the biggest tax INCREASE in history after even republicans in congress realized he had gone too far with his tax cuts and deficit spending. he pulled the same stunt as governor of california. yet no one ever talks about the tax increase.

oh, and don't get me started on the idiotic "tear down this wall" crap. seven decades of many americans, every president from both parties, and ideology arguing that capitalism is inherently better than communism, and when it finally comes to pass, thanks largely to gobachev, we're supposed to believe that it was all just reagan's one speech that did it? or his beligerent rhetoric, which was largely the same as every other president since 1917? gee, what a shame no one else thought to just ASK the commies to give it all up.

[ejpoeta]

16. i don't think the op means he was a great president... i think he means that

ronnie is deified among republicans... they think he was the best president evuh. i think that is what he means.

[Pennie109]

6. MSM loves cheney.

[RoyGBiv]

8. I love these ladies ...

I mean it. Really.

:)

[Raksha]

20. Margaret and Helen are fantastic!

This is the first time I've ever read their blog, but I think I'm going to bookmark it.

[RoyGBiv]

26. They are ...

Read some of the early ones from before the election, after someone apparently complained about the language.

It's awesome.

[merh]

9. What is truly comical is the comments in our online newspaper's

comment sections about the guy. Even the most extreme conservatives post stuff like "he was never heard from during the presidency, why won't he shut up now?"

[derby378]

13. Could someone try to repeat this verbatim on WASHINGTON JOURNAL?

Damn, that's good stuff.

[HamdenRice]

15. You think Dick is a "dry" drunk? Didn't he get loaded before shooting his friend in the face

with a shotgun? It was pretty obvious that they had to wait a few hours to sober him up before going to the authorities.

[Stephanie]

22. He admitted to "a beer" before shooting Whittington - don't most DUI's say they just had "a beer"?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=441616

[Beartracks]

42. Well, this just "a beer"...

[Enthusiast]

37. Of course this was

the reason for the delay. And not a single solitary MSM reporter suggested that or they would still be unheard from in Siberia or someplace.

[Stephanie]

38. Read my link above - after the shooting he went back to the house and poured himself a cocktail

[Enthusiast]

39. Thanks, Stephanie.

If Clinton would have done the same he would have been impeached and removed from office.

[snake in the grass]

18. I object!

Little Big Dick Cheney is NOT a dry drunk. He's still loving the sauce. Just ask Harry Whittington.

[elizfeelinggreat]

19. Now that, my friend, is one hell of a big bitch.

"So in addition to shooting his friends in the face and pushing employees under the bus, he also eats his young. Now that, my friend, is one hell of a big bitch."

[zalinda]

21. But they weren't failed Presidencies

to his buddies and him. They all made fortunes.

zalinda

[Baby Snooks]

28. And he served five, not four...

He served the shadow presidency of George HW Bush during the Reagan years. The real presidency of the Reagan years. Which set the course that led us where we are now.

[Overseas]

32. Exactly. He has been wildly successful with his war profiteering.

Imagine-- being secretary of defense and promoting the privatization of military services. Then becoming CEO of one of the firms that got the most of those contracts. Then appointing yourself to be VP and getting your boy selected as President to start a "preemptive" war on Iraq with lots of no-bid contracts for your friends to make extravagant profits, no matter the quality of their services.

He's done a heck of a job profiteering on military privatization.

Maybe that's why the corporate media is so enamored with him. In the cash-dominated TV broadcasting industry, shameless war profiteering garners great respect, I guess. It seems to trump the Geneva Conventions that protect our own troops. Seems to trump creating thousands of new terrorists with the inhumane brutality of the invasion and occupation of Iraq on false pretenses. Seems to trump bankrupting our country by giving tax cuts during a time of frenzied war profiteering.

All hail Dick the Torturer-- at least on our corporate TV media! He gets to speak on the public airwaves even after destroying the fundamental values of our country, our national security and our economy. That's a pretty amazing accomplishment.

[malaise]

23. Margaret and Helen are the best

Great blog post from Helen although bitch is a kind word for Cheney.

[mitchum]

24. I think the answer is that Cheney started gathering dirt and extorting early in his career

it is the most reasonable explanation for the strange and curious rise of Dick Cheney

[shanti]

56. yes, he plays dirty

it's the only thing the SOB can do :(

[Wednesdays]

29. K&R

:kick:

[swilton]

30. Cheney is a distraction from the real issues at hand

The more he flaps his trap, the less we focus on the reall issues at hand: war criminal prosecutions, health care, global warming, and the escalating war in Afghanistan.

It wouldn't surprise me one bit if Cheney has some terminal illness (other than his known heart disease) and he just keeled over....Then more air time spent on rehabilitation of the wind bag....

He needs to crawl in a hole or go back under the carpet. Again, the question, why give him so much air time?

[swilton]

31. Cheney is a distraction from the real issues at hand

The more he flaps his trap, the less we focus on the reall issues at hand: war criminal prosecutions, health care, global warming, and the escalating war in Afghanistan.

It wouldn't surprise me one bit if Cheney has some terminal illness (other than his known heart disease) and he just keeled over....Then more air time spent on rehabilitation of the wind bag....

He needs to crawl in a hole or go back under the carpet. Again, the question, why give him so much air time?

[Overseas]

33. His wildly successful war profiteering is one of the critical issues.

I've written above that the corporate media may be enamored of him because of his great success in war profiteering. Getting the military to privatize lots of services, then reaping those rewards as Halliburton CEO and then again pushing privatization still further as self-appointed VP for the Beer Guy his team had selected to be President.

Yes we need to prosecute the war criminals, but we also need to de-privatize a lot of the military services to protect our economy and national security from further profiteering.

And in a way we could see Dick the Torturer's shameless, ruthless profiteering as an example of what the for-profit insurance industry has been doing. Profiteering on the backs of the American public. Giving us less and less care for more and more money. Just as the war profiteers increased their earnings while destroying our national security.

[MrMickeysMom]

35. Wow... these ladies are for real, and I love it!

I sent their blog on to another person.

I salute them! :patriot:

[JackDragna]

44. The author misses the point.

To Republicans, no presidency is failed. All they care about is power. When people forget how incompetent, corrupt and ruthless they are, when times get bad and the people are seduced by easy answers to complex problems, the Republicans will take power again. It's all they really care about.

[LiberalFighter]

45. Hmmm could someone arrange for some shit to be buried with him?

[Number23]

46. Love to see the blame put where it belongs. Happy to rec

Edit: Just read their whole blog entry on this. Those gals ain't playing! :)

And is that a space-age trailer park they're riding past?? What's going on in that picture??

[Clear Blue Sky]

47. He is the face of the Repub party. Let him keep talking...nt

[Canuckistanian]

48. Are these REALLY 70+ year old women?

I tell you, their biting sarcasm, their humor and their journalistic and internet research skills rival those of 20+ year olds.

That is some major cutting-edge political blogging.

Not that I'm saying it's unlikely, just that it's..... unexpected.

Here's to you, Ladies!
:toast:

[defendandprotect]

49. Anyone remember that Poppy left office WITH his papers which were supposed . . .

to go to the archives?

Are we hearing any thing about Cheney's papers . . .

surprised he didn't burn down the WH before Obama took over!

[mia]

50. Failed presidencies mean nothing to Cheney.

As long as the miltary-indutrial complex gets its cut.

[Presidentcokedupfratboy]

51. Some TV talking head should mention this to Dick

And then ask why we should pay attention to anything he has to say, given Dick's track record.

[Mike 03]

54. Given his medical history, I simply think he is suffering from dementia.

Frontal temporal dementia from lack of circulation of oxygenated blood to his brain, due to his failing heart and bloated, edematic state.

I pay NO attention to this piece of shit.

The only reason he is able to garner serious attention is because of his prior status.

[AnnieBW]

55. It's easy

He sold his soul to the Devil for power.

[Raine]

57. I wonder too if he doesn't bare

some (like awhole lot of)responsibilty for the failure of those four failed presidents, just what kind of "advice" was he giving?