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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 05:45 PM
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US funds terror groups to sow chaos in Iran
Edited on Tue Apr-03-07 05:48 PM by NNN0LHI
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/02/25/wiran25.xml

America is secretly funding militant ethnic separatist groups in Iran in an attempt to pile pressure on the Islamic regime to give up its nuclear programme.

In a move that reflects Washington's growing concern with the failure of diplomatic initiatives, CIA officials are understood to be helping opposition militias among the numerous ethnic minority groups clustered in Iran's border regions.

The operations are controversial because they involve dealing with movements that resort to terrorist methods in pursuit of their grievances against the Iranian regime.

In the past year there has been a wave of unrest in ethnic minority border areas of Iran, with bombing and assassination campaigns against soldiers and government officials.

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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 05:49 PM
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1. Of course they are.
Things were never meant to go well in Iraq; we were never meant to 'win'; that country was never supposed to be a successful democratic nation. It's all about the never-ending war.....
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mediaman007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 05:50 PM
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2. Just another example of the Bush* regime establishing the high road
in international deplomacy! It'll be pretty hard to pass judgement on anything from where they are standing.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 05:52 PM
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3. NO!
I'm shocked!!

:sarcasm:
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 05:53 PM
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4. Why change decades of policy now?
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 08:57 PM
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18. Bingo n/t
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 05:56 PM
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5. already have two blackwater battalions on the ground there, as i hear it
we are ready to seriously fund insurgents there, and will be ready to strike april 17-19 (pushed back because a tsunami hit diego garcia--where the US, brits, and aussies will strike from, and also where our supply lines are). otherwise we would have been ready april 7. admiral fallon is in charge of Operation TIRANT (THE IRAN NEAR THEATER)
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whosinpower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 06:10 PM
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6. If it smells like, funds like, and looks like....
supporting terrorism to me...........

And the war on terror goes on and on and on........because that is what your masters want!
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 06:17 PM
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7.  Isn't this what Sy Hersh was refering to ?
He said bush and cheney were funding terrorists to over throw the Iran government and install their own . Well basically , i forget all the details , each issue gets pushed back since each damn day there is something else to deal with .
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 06:18 PM
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8. Nominated.
Important topic. People should pat attention to this.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 06:27 PM
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9. And we know THAT always turns out well
Edited on Tue Apr-03-07 06:39 PM by DCKit
These people are morans. Hey Osama, you busy? Cheney's on the phone.
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Jcrowley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 07:01 PM
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10. Decoded
that means to give up it's OIL.

K&R
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CGowen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 07:09 PM
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11. Of course, George
"No question that the enemy has tried to spread sectarian violence. They use violence as a tool to do that." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., March 22, 2006
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 07:21 PM
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12. Seems like they're following the template from '53
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 07:24 PM
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13. when will they ever learn....we have become the terrorists
all because of 19 guys....think about it.
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 07:25 PM
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14. Sunni Balichi terrorists allied to Al Qaeda. Neighbors and relatives of Waziri/Pashtun/Taliban
The border between Baluchistan and Afghanistan and the Waziri "safe haven" Bush created for Al Qaeda is non-existent. Men, munitions, and opium all move thru the desert to Pakistani ports near the Iran border without incident. The Pakistani government in that area is a fiction; the real government is the CIA-allied Sunni tribes that are, wouldn't you know it, harboring Osama Bin Laden. But they hate our new enemies, Eastasia --er, I mean, Iran, so it's OK.
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Jcrowley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 07:31 PM
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15. Washington's Covert War inside Iran
Subverting Iran
Washington's Covert War inside Iran

by Gregory Elich

Global Research, March 23, 2007

Much attention has been given to the Bush Administration’s preparations for possible war against Iran as well as its drive to impose sanctions. Meanwhile, a less noticed policy has been unfolding, one that may in time prove to have grave consequences for the region. There is a covert war underway in Iran, still in its infancy, but with disturbing signs of impending escalation. In the shadowy world of guerrilla operations, the full extent of involvement by the Bush Administration has yet to be revealed, but enough is known to paint a disturbing picture.

The provision of aid to anti-government forces offers certain advantages to the Bush Administration. No effort needs to be expended in winning support for the policy. Operations can be conducted away from the public eye during a time of growing domestic opposition to the war in Iraq, and international opinion is simply irrelevant where the facts are not well known. In terms of expenditures, covert operations are a cost-effective means for destabilizing a nation, relative to waging war.

There is nothing new in the technique, and it has proven an effective means for toppling foreign governments in the past, as was the case with socialist Afghanistan and Nicaragua. In Yugoslavia, U.S. and British military training and arms shipments helped to build up the secessionist Kosovo Liberation Army from a small force of 300 soldiers into a sizable guerrilla army that made the province of Kosovo ungovernable. The very chaos that the West did so much to create was then used as the pretext for bombing Yugoslavia.

According to a former CIA official, funding for armed separatist groups operating in Iran is paid from the CIA’s classified budget. The aim, claims Fred Burton, an ex-State Department counter-terrorism agent, is “to supply and train” these groups “to destabilize the Iranian regime.” (1)

<snip>

http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=20070323&articleId=5165
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 07:37 PM
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16. And Panama, and Iraq, and Chile, and Iran (1953), and...
You know, it's the stupidity of the American people that is harming the populations of this planet. We're not evil. But the Bush family and a few others are allowed to do their evil deeds by virtue of our ignorance. I mean, Panama? How obvious was that! Gee, right about when the canal lease was coming due. Duh! But Americans can't see through even the dimmest smoke screens.

I doubt we'll wake up. Not until they take our rights away. Or we're invaded. Or Bush's brother gets into the Oval office. All shitty thoughts.

We work a quarter of our time in order to pay tax for this kind of stuff. That alone ought to enrage Americans.

I'm not sure I'm even on topic with respect to this thread. I'm partially alive from riding a bike long distances. I think about stuff like this while pedaling. And it's highly maddening. Along with dealing with the stinking cars on the road. Fuckers.
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 08:33 PM
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17. This has been the plan for a long time
See this Asia Times article from two years ago:
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/GD29Ak01.html

Or this (long) essay which talks about the efforts of the West to stir up pan-Turanian (that is, Turkic) nationalism and direct it against Iran:
http://www.rozanehmagazine.com/NoveDec05/Azerbaijan-Text%5Bnopict%5D.pdf

There's a lot more that could be said about the deliberate incitement of ethnic hatred as part of a strategy of divide-and-conquer -- but it's getting late and I'm not in the mood to write a book.



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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 09:20 PM
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19. Back door, black op incitement? Why am I not surprised?
Thing that disturbs me further is that these a-holes have the wherewithall to stock funds and continue these operations long after they are out of the WH.

This madness will NEVER end until these monsters come face-to-face with substantive execution of justice.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 04:26 AM
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20. the more things changed (since 9/11) the more things stay the same (1953,
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