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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 12:59 PM
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Penn Hills Student Expelled Over Eyebrow Shaver (WPXI)
PENN HILLS, Pa. -- It's not a gun or a knife, but an eyebrow shaver that had school officials in Penn Hills take action earlier this month.

A Linton Middle School teenager has been expelled after a random search turned up an eyebrow shaver in her handbag.

Officials at the Penn Hills school recommended at a Wednesday disciplinary hearing that 15-year-old Taylor Ray Jetter be expelled for the rest of this year and 45 days next year.

Jetter said she doesn't consider the eyebrow trimmer a weapon. She fears expulsion will hurt her chances of becoming a nurse-anesthetist. She's a Girl Scout and a member of the school's basketball team, choir and leadership team.
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The state's Safe School Act defines a weapon as any knife, cutting instrument, cutting tool, nun chuck, firearms, rifle and any other tool capable of inflicting bodily harm.
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more: http://www.wpxi.com/news/19521773/detail.html





The video shows the "weapon" cannot even cut the palm of a person's hand. "Any other tool capable of inflicting bodily harm" would seem to cover most material objects in the Universe.
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rcrush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 01:00 PM
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1. Why are we so stupid as a people?
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 01:01 PM
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2. "Zero tolerance," my ass
This is intimidation, pure and simple. The nerve of those fascists.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 01:02 PM
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3. How the Hell is a "random search" constitutional? NT
NT
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Morning Dew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 01:03 PM
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4. I'd be more scared of a spork than that little shaver. nm
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fumsm Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 01:04 PM
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5. The wonderful world of zero tolerance
This rule is a fucking joke. No more can be said. It is being abused, and used to hide behind by the school not doing it's duties. No one can even give a good reason as to why it exist, other than to destroy every child's life equally. A weapon. I could do more damage with a pencil. maybe we should outlaw pencils. I don't think t kids use them anymore anyhow. they spend all their time worrying about not going to prison for some simple step to the right or left from the zero tolerance center.

Our society if fucked up, and still running scared due to the republican fear machine.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 01:21 PM
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12. Zero tolerance is a substitute for thinking and judgment
There was a time when our society wasn't quite such a pee-pants scared little bunch of rabbits. We hired school administrators and teachers and trusted them (really!) to run schools and take care of kids. But now we're at the mercy of litigious parents, nervous risk managers, and a culture that's so wet-your-pants scared of everything that an eyebrow shaver is indistinguishable from a dagger or a loaded pistol. Risk managers like it because they think it reduces the chances of expensive litigation. Other forces in our country like it because it keeps people scared, and that's profitable for them. Still other forces like it because it keeps people divided and suspicious, and that's profitable for them.

And when anyone comes along to monkey with this fucked up society, the powerful forces that profit off of fear and division swing into action to scare people into maintaining the status quo.

Yeah, there are multiple levels of motherfuckery going on whenever you see something like this.
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fumsm Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 01:46 PM
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20. Thinking and judgement
Ahh, the good ole days, when schools actually taught things such as this.....
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 01:04 PM
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6. Let me guess.
She's black.
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fumsm Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 01:04 PM
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7. Yes
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taught_me_patience Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 01:07 PM
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8. This is sad. These zero tolerance rules are bullshit.
She should be tweezing instead of shaving, though.
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ManiacJoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 08:36 PM
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52. .
Edited on Thu May-21-09 08:37 PM by ManiacJoe
wrong place...
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 01:09 PM
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9. here's a little irony
my daughter's school made a big fucking deal about crap like this too--meanwhile the art students were required to have those exacto knives (resembling box cutters) for cutting through canvas and art boards--the kids carried them in the hallways, kept them in their lockers and purses.

so...i wonder what this school's art supply list looks like
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 01:22 PM
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13. At our school, the art teacher keeps track of those
and they aren't allowed out of the art room at all.

Just remember -- and I know I'm gonna get flamed for this -- the 9/11 highjackers used box cutters and no one considered them a "weapon" either. So where do you draw the line? Among our many responsibilities in schools is keeping students safe. Where schools get into trouble is when they have rules that are inconsistently enforced, thus "zero tolerance" policies. Yeah they aren't always fair.

Teachers and administrators are not lawyers and don't have time to parse the legalese that accompanies all laws. Our job is education. It's too bad that we have to deal with the other crap also but that's the way it is and no school can afford to keep a lawyer on staff to deal with every single issue like this that arises.

The constant education bashing on this forum is unbelievable. There may be -- there are some -- goofy rules in education. Unfortunately, these get conflated with attacks on teachers and everyone who ever had a bad experience in school seems to use that as an excuse to condemn the whole system. It's disheartening. I'm not saying the system doesn't need change. Just please recognize that there is good and bad in every situation and blanket statements are unfair.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 01:47 PM
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21. Oh, come on. If she really wanted to hurt someone, what would she
reach for - an eyebrow trimmer, or a very sharp, 6" long pencil?

Going to ban pencils?

You know what "zero tolerance" breeds? Intolerance. It inculcates in the students an expectation of a black and white world which does not exist, and never has existed.

BTW, the problem with the 9/11 boxcutters was not that they were not considered weapons, but that for decades we've been told "if you are a hostage, cooperate". There were dozens, maybe hundreds of plane hijackings in the previous 30 years, and NONE of them resulted in planes flying into buildings, so the passengers did as they were told, cooperated, expecting a typical hijack scenario. If they had half a thought they were going to be killed the way they were, they'd have taken the hijackers down.

Expectations. THAT is the problem. Bullshit like this creates the WRONG expectations.
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JohnnyBoots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 02:17 PM
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28. Seriously. I could strangle you with my shoe laces if i really wanted to. Why
not make them wear sandals like inmates.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 02:28 PM
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33. yes, i'm aware of the 9/11 hijackers and what they used.
that is why i thought it was so strange that our local high school allowed kids to do this one and two and three years after 9/11.
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 09:19 PM
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54. We had box cutters in college.
The the ones with the trapezoidal blade.

Only we called them "mat cutters" because we cut mats (frames) for our artwork out of Crescent board with them.

:shrug:

Art major here. :D :hi:



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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 01:12 PM
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10. then why are they allowed to use pens, pencils, scissors, etc...?
idiotic.

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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 01:16 PM
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11. Are they going to ban pens, pencils, and hard-cover books? n/t
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 01:24 PM
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14. Yeah, because she just couldn't go one day without shaving those eyebrows
Dumb move, knowing how draconian the school policies are. And couldn't the school just have confiscated it and be done with it?
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 02:40 PM
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34. Rubbish. Most women carry some grooming items around in a handbag.
So she's going to be expelled until the end of the school year plus 45 days? What kind of message does that send about education? Good thing it wasn't a nail clippers, maybe they'd have had to deploy tasers :sarcasm:
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 04:20 PM
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39. I think the whole zero tolerance thing is total balderdash
Having said that, it's not like she needed the blade during school, and she knew it looked like a knife and therefore it was not allowed. She forgot about it, she didn't clam she didn't know it was not allowed. The school and the girl and the policy were all at fault.

Oh, and it would take me about five seconds to turn that blade into a decent slashing blade - that blade guard could be broken off easily.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 12:22 AM
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55. As pointed out here repeatedly, a pencil or a ballpoint pen make equally good weapons.
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 01:24 PM
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15. That's Retarded.
Edited on Thu May-21-09 01:25 PM by proteus_lives
ZT policies don't work! Christ, they're going to risk this kid's future over a fucking eyebrow trimmer? She's probably not a ninja, she's not going to kill anyone!

:puke:
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 01:26 PM
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16. "...and any other tool capable of inflicting SERIOUS bodily harm.

The news source left out an important word from the text, but quoted it correctly in the video -- that word being 'serious'

I don't see how that thingie could cause serious bodily harm.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 01:33 PM
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17. Hey, you can't be too careful -
that's right up there with fingernail clippers of mass destruction.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 01:35 PM
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18. By this definition, pens and pencils are OBVIOUSLY weapons.
Sigh. I hate morans.
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fumsm Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 01:45 PM
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19. For all those that think everything metal is a weapon
Have you ever seen what a pencil or pen can do to an eyeball, or through the side of the temple. Pencils = weapons of mass destruction. Ban them, ban them, hurry, before some terrorist student takes over the country.....
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 04:28 PM
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41. Remember the Pencil Disappearing Trick from The Dark Knight? (nm)
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 01:48 PM
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22. I bet the zero tolerance dorks would confiscate these scaaaaaaaary looking tools, too.


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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 01:57 PM
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23. Morons

And what's a "nun chuck"? Is it like dwarf tossing?

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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 01:59 PM
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25. Oh...never mind:
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 01:59 PM
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24. Shop class must be incredibly boring for these kids.
Edited on Thu May-21-09 02:02 PM by MindPilot
"What did you do in woodworking today honey?"

"We looked at a piece of walnut. It's kept locked up in a Lexan case so nobody gets a splinter."
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FLAprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 02:23 PM
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31. oh don't worry, I'm sure that shop class was cut at that school a LONG time ago.
Edited on Thu May-21-09 02:23 PM by FLAprogressive
Schools need more money to pass tests!
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Sabriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 02:07 PM
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26. Gone are the days when we poked each other with a compass
It was about the only way to make it through math class.

Beware the paper cut! Deadly stuff.
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kittykitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 06:21 PM
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44. That brought back memories! All the things you could do with a compass..................
poke holes in a big eraser, clean your fingernails, scratch something into a desk top (wooden desks--shows you how old I am), throw it at something in the grass at lunch time,. . . .

Weapon? naaah. Weapons were switchblades and tire irons. You'd be laughed at attacking someone with a compass!!!
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 02:08 PM
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27. You want a REAL school weapon, how about that Yale lock off your
locker, dropped into the toe of a tube sock.

THAT will do some damage.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 02:17 PM
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29. Schools -- and their students -- are doomed if morons like these are running the show
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FLAprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 02:19 PM
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30. There is no common sense anymore. None.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 02:23 PM
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32. AND the people without common sense are proud of the fact!
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Jokerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 02:49 PM
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35. We had a student beat another with a power cord he took from a computer.
Since it was a "tool capable of inflicting bodily harm" I guess we should remove all of the computers and anything else that plugs into the wall.

Idiocy.
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dugaresa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 03:12 PM
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36. Penn Hills is a district that is viewed as not being so safe
so that might be the reason for the hyper policy. It is ranked 46 out of the 62 districts in its county and the area has suffered from economic problems since the 1970's.

Personally I think each case should be handled separately and reviewed and in this case the district should have thrown the tool away and told her, "don't bring this stuff to school anymore"

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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 03:18 PM
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37. How is that possible?
Aanything that could potentially be harmful has been removed so that must actually be one of the safest schools in the country.
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dugaresa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 03:27 PM
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38. you would think with the policy the kids are bouncing off padded walls
but it is the reputation of the area in Pittsburgh.

The school district isn't viewed well and the area hit hard times after the mills in Pittsburgh went kaput (as did a lot of other areas).

Personally I think it is racial bias against the folks in the area that gives it a bad reputation, sadly western PA isn't so "forward" thinking.

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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 04:26 PM
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40. I just saw this and posted it on FB.
I would be more concerned that a girl that age is that obsessed with her eyebrow hair.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 06:10 PM
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42. MORE concerned? REALLY?
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 06:20 PM
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43. More concerned than if she would use it as a weapon.
i tpe badd.

I just think it's funny/sad that a tween would be so caught up in personal grooming that she would have something as silly as an eyebrow shaver on her person at all times. My generation was more into lipgloss, I guess. :)
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 06:22 PM
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45. Really? You're concerned that a teenager doesn't want a unibrow?
I'm a guy and I started doing anything I could to get rid of that unwanted eyebrow hair at about age 13 or 14.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 06:29 PM
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46. Funny.
Edited on Thu May-21-09 06:32 PM by Starry Messenger
I expected no response to this. :) Sorry. Wouldn't you just do it at home though? I plucked too, but I never thought of having the tweezers around all the time. I'm a teacher and I hate seeing young kids insecure about this stuff. I tend to think of middle school as 11 and 12 year olds. I see from the article it says she's 15. That's odd. Most of my sophomores are 15.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 06:33 PM
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47. Yea I did it at home but I'm not a girl
If I were a girl I could easily see myself carrying such things around.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 06:40 PM
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49. One of my buddies on Facebook said:
"What the hell, they were afraid she was going to use it as a throwing star?"

http://img.en.china.cn/0/0,0,175,974,640,480,95e12b3a.jpg

I think I've seen ball-point pens that could do more damage. :D

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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 06:58 PM
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50. I had a friend in high school who had trichotillomania...
...the plucking disorder.

She basically plucked out all her eyebrow hair, as well as the hair on her arms and legs, armpits, and who knows where else. She sat by herself and plucked the hair out while listening to music.

She seemed to get over it, but her eyebrows never looked right again.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 07:09 PM
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51. I had that too.
I had a bald spot the size of a quarter in seventh grade. It's more of an OCD/extreme stress thing than concern over hair.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 06:37 PM
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48. This is the weapon


Heck there's combs out there that would make better weapons than this. This is idiotic but I think it's also because of the school district that is heavily African-American with violence in the community and the student is African-American.

BTW, this is the PA school district that Ricky Santorum claimed as his residence but cheated out of school funds by enrolling his kids who lived in VA in cyber school that Penn Hills had to pay for until little Ricky got caught.
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 05:20 PM
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56. Thanks. That photo makes it look like there is a plastic guard over the blade ...
Edited on Fri May-22-09 05:20 PM by eppur_se_muova
making it difficult to cut anything BUT hair. That's what it appeared from the video but I couldn't see the video as well.
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ManiacJoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 08:37 PM
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53. How do adults who work
in places of learning become so stupid?
:banghead:
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