HASTERT Was Speaker When Pelosi Was Supposedly "Briefed" On Cheney's Use Of Torture?

[KittyWampus]

Back in 2002 Pelosi was just a ranking MINORITY member of the Intel Committee?

HASTERT was Speaker?

Why the heck isn't HIS name being brought up in all this finger-pointing? :wtf:

[baldguy]

1. Because Pelosi is a Dem.

The MSM dances to Karl Rove's tune every time.

[emulatorloo]

2. Their whole argument is weird. Torture is good, Pelosi is bad.

Since Torture is good and Hastert is good, it isn't an issue for them.

ON the other hand, since Torture is good, then why is Pelosi bad if she (allegedly) was briefed on it?

If torture is ok and Cheney is good, then it doesn't make any sense.

Apparently now Pelosi is also BAD because she said the CIA was not honest.

So they have moved on a little.

Basically they are throwing out all kinds of illogical crazy stuff hoping that it will stick, and everybody will forget about Cheney and Torture.

[midnight]

3. I;m not aware of the dates being thrown around, but you might

have a big point.

[bobthedrummer]

4. Because...

[KittyWampus]

10. hey bobthedrummer, I just posted a thread about Hastert lobbying for Turkish Govt.

he just started. Remember Sibel Edmond's info about Hastert and Turkish agents?

[bobthedrummer]

15. That brings Eric Edelman to mind KittyWampus

Eric Edelman (RightWeb profile)
http://www.rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/Edelman_Eric

Eric Edelman (SourceWatch page)
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Eric_Edelman

[Lone_Star_Dem]

5. Because they don't need to cast doubt over Hastert to fuzzy the issue of investigations.

Duh! That was too easy. :P

[jedr]

6. The facts mean nothing to the 'Pubs in this argument

this is classic Rove , changing the focus of the argument from Bush/Chaney to Pelosi . Much like you saying to your neighbor " Hey your dog bit my child" and them saying " Yeah, but your kid's is dirty and needs a haircut" This needs to be pointed out so the more gullible can become aware of the propaganda that's being dished out. The question ISN'T what Pelosi knew, it's what Bush did.

[Baby Snooks]

7. It is...

Some of us are pointing the finger at ALL OF THEM.

[KittyWampus]

16. Really? Cause I haven't seen Hastert's named mentioned by DU'ers. Got a link to your posts

calling out Hastert?

[MadMaddie]

8. And Hastart has been very quiet hasn't he?

It's time to refocus on Hastert....why didn't he say anything?

[KittyWampus]

11. He just started lobbying for the Turkish Govt.

[MadMaddie]

12. Hmmm....Turkey better read their contract and make sure they

get their moneys worth. Turkey better make sure that he hasn't eaten part of the country....what? just sayin...

[flyarm]

25. was Hassert briefed? was he on the intelligence committee? Did he get top secret intelligence?

I don't know does anyone else?

Hassert is a scum bag..he is center of Sibel Edmonds being silenced.

He is now looking to making money from the Turks?

That pig ought to be in court being prosecuted..

But was he given any of the briefings?

If not this is a moot point.

[gratuitous]

9. Well, I'm sure we all remember

I'm sure we all remember how generous the Republicans were in 2002 about sharing power and listening to all sides on every issue before proceeding in a bipartisan manner. So the awesome power of the ranking minority member of the Intelligence Committee, obviously, had power beyond the dreams of mere mortals. Bush quaked, Cheney quailed and Hastert did some verb starting with "q" that made him look like a Grade A pussy in the face of Nancy Pelosi and her being briefed. Once.

[GoddessOfGuinness]

13. Because Hastert thought torture was appropriate

[KittyWampus]

14. kick

[Canuckistanian]

17. Also, George Tenet was CIA Director at the time

Why isn't anyone asking HIM what actually happened?

Panetta is only acting on information from documents and other people's memories.

Tenet was THERE.

[flyarm]

27. because George Tenet is too busy polishing his Presidential Medal of Freedom

ask him questions you ask??

pleaseeee...he is so busy polishing his Medal of freedom..he could not spare the time to answer any mundane questions!!:sarcasm:

But if he sould ever suject himself to qiestions..can i be there to ask some questions about 9/11??

I would really like that opportunity!

[KharmaTrain]

18. Hindsight Is 20/20

Yep...in 2002, Speaker Pelosi wasn't the Speaker, Gym Teach Denny was. In fact, she wasn't even the Democratic leader...Dick Gephart was Minority Leader and David Bonier was his "whip". She was a non-player at the time; especially in the "golden age" of DeLay where the House was his plantation.

The person who should be questioned is Pat Roberts...the head of the Senate Intel Committee...a major booooosh enabler (anyone remember those reports he was supposed to release that never showed up??) and the complicity of other House & Senate rushpublicans in bamboozling other members to vote in favor of this illegal war for profit and other boooosh boondoggles.

There's a big list of names of people who need to be asked about what they knew and when they knew it. A special prosecutor would do nicely here...

[HowHasItComeToThis]

22. BINGO FOR YOU, REMEMBER THE MEDIA ARE PROPAGANDISTS

[peekaloo]

19. Republican white wash spin cycle

facts tend to dilute their "arguments"

[Wizard777]

20. Bush was using torture to gain WMD's information while condemning Saddam Hussein's uses of torture.

Even if we scraped US and International law and placed Bush & Cheney on trial using only their own standards. They're STILL gonna hang. So there is just no way we can not prosecute this.If they don't prosecute we need to shut down the courts to preserve equal protection of law. If they cannot prosecute Bush & Cheney for their high crimes they cannot prosecute anyone else for their lesser crimes either. Lesser crimes like murder and rape etc. Bush & cheney have body counts in the thousands if not millions. So yes we can say, this American ONLY killed a hundred people. That is still within the Bush & Cheney precedence for non prosecution. We must overlook this crime too.

[blogslut]

21. The Intelligence Committee chair was Porter Goss

Who then went on the become CIA director. And, wacky coincidence, he's the fella who started the whole Nancy-was-in-on-it meme:

Let me be clear. It is my recollection that:

-- The chairs and the ranking minority members of the House and Senate intelligence committees, known as the Gang of Four, were briefed that the CIA was holding and interrogating high-value terrorists.

-- We understood what the CIA was doing.

-- We gave the CIA our bipartisan support.

-- We gave the CIA funding to carry out its activities.

-- On a bipartisan basis, we asked if the CIA needed more support from Congress to carry out its mission against al-Qaeda.

I do not recall a single objection from my colleagues. They did not vote to stop authorizing CIA funding. And for those who now reveal filed "memorandums for the record" suggesting concern, real concern should have been expressed immediately -- to the committee chairs, the briefers, the House speaker or minority leader, the CIA director or the president's national security adviser -- and not quietly filed away in case the day came when the political winds shifted. And shifted they have...

link:http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/04/24/AR2009042403339.html?hpid=opinionsbox1

[chill_wind]

29. Thank you. The most important points of all in all of this. He is laughing right now.

He started the Pelosi-knew media ops. We watched it unfold right here on DU. Joe Scarborough was the first to take up his banner.

Former CIA himself back in his "youth". What we've had is a nice continuity of covert power and policy reaching from above all the way deep down to key people like Goss in critical places from day 1. And it seems like they are still currently running the show with the Pentagon (well, and the Banks) better than ever.

There's a name for that kind of power structure in some other countries and regions of the world.

[WeDidIt]

23. HE wasn't briefed n/t

[xiamiam]

24. when conyers held the wmd hearing..the doors were locked and they had to go the basement

that was the climate in those days...

[lonestarnot]

26. Because he ate the transcript of the meeting.

[Captain Hilts]

28. People here aren't interested in those pesky details. nt

[The Backlash Cometh]

30. Hastert was a high ranking Republican.

For reasons that I cannot explain, they seem to be getting away with it all.

[malletgirl02]

31. That is a Good Question

I was thinking the same thing. The Democrats weren't even in power in 2002. The reason that no one is asking this is the media , at least most of it fell for the spin. Sadly many here also fell for the spin.

[Catherine Vincent]

32. How about that "liberal media"? nt

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