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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 03:26 PM
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Some 100 detainees have been tortured to death. Have their dependents been compensated?
Edited on Thu May-14-09 03:27 PM by HereSince1628
The UN treaty against torture states...

Article 14
Each State Party shall ensure in its legal system that the victim of an act of torture obtains redress and has an enforceable right to fair and adequate compensation including the means for as full rehabilitation as possible. In the event of the death of the victim as a result of an act of torture, his dependents shall be entitled to compensation.
Nothing in this article shall affect any right of the victim or other person to compensation which may exist under national law.

....

Or does this just not fucking matter when the torturing state is the US?
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 03:28 PM
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1. I think I read a while ago that we were giving a few thousand dollars
to Iraqis as death benefits if they could prove that we killed a member of their family. :(
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 03:30 PM
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2. I thought that was to families suffering losses from collateral damage.
I have some serious doubts that the families been notified that their relative died during torture.

I have less serious doubts that the US tried to buy the silence of relatives of dead detainees.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 03:33 PM
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3. And there's about another hundred that CIA is hiding from ICRC.
Edited on Thu May-14-09 03:33 PM by EFerrari
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 03:37 PM
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4. And is only W guilty as some would have us think or
is every bloody bureaucrat who hides this commiting our Nation to violations of UN treaties?

If I were President it seems like I'd want to purge all the paper pushers who support violating the law.

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 03:51 PM
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5. If Obama decided to purge all those who participated, DC would be a ghost town by nightfall.
We need a Special Prosecutor to treat this as a criminal case. The issue of how the Democrats went along with it in some way or to any degree seems to me a different problem. Not to let anyone off but more to acknowledge that Congressional oversight is an oxymoron anymore.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 04:14 PM
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7. and WELL IT SHOULD BE. n/t
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 04:35 PM
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10. You say that like it's a BAD thing!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 04:39 PM
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11. lol
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 03:53 PM
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6. They died to protect America and isn't that compensation enough?
Do I really need the sarcasm tag?

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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 04:20 PM
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8. Seriously, how do you compensate someone for having killed their family member?
I would think bare minimum is something in the middle-low five figures for a 'prime-of-life' breadwinner in a non-industrialized country. If the country has anything above a 70% literacy rate and good infrastructure, a quarter mil would be absolute rock bottom on the "Sorry I killed your husband" scale--minus lawyer fees, of course...
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 04:22 PM
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9. HELLO? Have their killers been prosecuted?
If we can wage genocide for a century to steal a continent, and the survivors are still in concentration camps, we can pretty much do whatever we frikkin' please, I guess! We got the guns!
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