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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 09:38 PM
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Some uncomfortable realities
So the Senate sides with the banks... surprised? You shouldn't be

So Obama decides to play footsie with the photos, surprised? you should not be

Look the first proves once again that letters behind names guarantee NUTHING... some folks would have been republicans a generation ago, some surprised me... but hey, as long as we have this private financing of elections sorry folks, we are not their bosses, don't care what the fantasy is.

Oh and going over to sweep the crimes of the bush administration under the rug, this is just the beginning, that is the Empire speaking.

So you want some real change, are you prepared to fight for it? That is what it will take

You want health care, it will take you and me...

You believe that they will just do it because we voted for them.. well more cold water coming

Hey at least being cynical saves my sanity, and hope... yep that is what they peddle every four years... nice kool aid I have to say. And that goes for BOTH parties.
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sandyd921 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 09:52 PM
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1. No real reforms will occur until
we get the money out of politics. Campaign finance reform is the name of the game. But the sad reality is that as long as you have a supreme court that interprets money as free speech and multinational corporations as people with rights to free speech that will not happen.

Reality can be a huge downer :banghead:
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 09:53 PM
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2. the only way we'll get single-payer is with a 45-million uninsured person march on dc.
the people, united...etc.

i'm with you full tilt when it comes to the cynical thing...i thought i had seen some inklings of hope- but the audacity has already been squashed completely out of it.

it all may be moot, anyway- our species won't be doing ANYTHING meaningful in regard to global warming climate-change until it's MUCH too late to have any impact(if it isn't already).

sometimes i think that obama has now been made privy to some type information regarding some type of impending dire consequences for the plane- and they're just trying to ride it out until then without total anarchy and social upheaval. :shrug:

we're getting a couple more guns. just in case.

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salguine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 10:29 PM
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8. Well, if organizing starts now, a pretty big march could happen by late summer...
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 11:41 PM
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16. too many people are still too doe-eyed over obama in the white house to be concerned...
they don't believe that he would or could do ANY wrong by the american people.
i already have medicare- but single-payer is my ONLY major issue...mainly because it's a right, and it's something that could help us on the road to recovery as a nation/society/economy- people without so much anxiety about their health tend to be happier and feel better about themselves...business would have no more headaches over ever-changing and increasingly expensive & complex insurance 'plans' for employees.

i am READY, WILLING, and ABLE to descend on the capitol.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 09:56 PM
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3. If it is up to we..it will not be..
not now anyway. I guess things have to get much, much worse before there is any real 'we' the people. Maybe there never was a 'we' the people. What do you call it when power is freely handed over to so few?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 10:01 PM
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5. The end of the country
this country is dead, just doesn't know it yet

We seen signs of it, like how people talked about Katrina. It was something that happened over there, not here.

So that is what I call it
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 09:58 PM
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4. Uncomfortable Indeed
:(
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 10:19 PM
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6. You wanna feel deeply naive???
Watch Frost/Nixon.
I just did.
And it seems, now at this point in time, so incredibly "quaint" how incensed the country , and my generation was over Watergate
compared to the 20 something years of increasingly unConstitutional rule and chicanery since then.
Watergate was the beginning.
The minute Ford got away with pardoning Nixon, the slippery slope steepened dramatically.

The most we can do now is use the ballot box to kick out a few Congress critters, who will be replaced by nother bought and paid for critters.

I honestly do not know what it will take to get DC to pay attention to the people now.

We talk, and do nothing,
They talk, and do less.

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 10:21 PM
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7. Of course
and what we need to do will not happen

Because people are not participating, period...

The will is gone
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 10:31 PM
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9. What you say isn't cynical but factual.
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PufPuf23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 10:33 PM
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10. So Sad nt
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 10:49 PM
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11. Exactly why I am an independent 'd'emocrat.
The Senate has voted to uphold the USURY INTEREST RATES charged by the criminal crooked bankers.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 10:50 PM
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12. Indie here too
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 11:07 PM
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13. Somehow I already knew that.
Glad to be in your camp.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 11:13 PM
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14. Well the fact remains I'd not vote for a republican, our little
boys, mostly boys, locally are just insane... but these days I just give money to those who deserve it...
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 11:16 PM
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15. I voted for Kucinich.
Later, I had to choose between two others. Quite a shame, really.
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TransitJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 12:03 AM
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17. End corporate personhood now! n/t
:hi:
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 12:48 AM
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18. All Hail The Uniparty
All Hail The Uniparty
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