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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 08:40 AM
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FDR's Fireside Chats
I just came on this while Googling for something else: http://www.mhrcc.org/fdr/fdr.html

I believe that some but not all are also available in audio, but I'll check that out later in the day.

pnorman
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 08:48 AM
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1. There actually weren't very many Fireside Chats at all. Because there weren't many
the impact of each individual one was huge.

FDR understood it was important not to over-do a good thing. Hell, he lived his personal life the same way - he did not fully give himself to anybody, it kept them all wanting more.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 08:56 AM
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2. Except the Japanese Americans, they probably wanted a little less. nt
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 09:01 AM
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3. FDR actually liked the Japanese far more than the Germans and wanted to round
Edited on Tue May-12-09 09:03 AM by Captain Hilts
up Germans also. It was just not possible to do so because they were geographically dispersed and much more integrated into society as a whole.

The govt. DID round up Italians and put them in camps, however.

FDR spent the shipboard trip to Europe on his honeymoon hanging out with Japanese naval officers on board the ship. I think he felt very much betrayed by Japan when the ambassador - who had been kept in the dark by the Japanese govt - had promised FDR of no attack, as they were attacking. That pissed off FDR.

Check this out:

http://www.gwu.edu/~erpapers/documents/articles/challengetoamerican.cfm

I can well understand the bitterness of people who have lost loved ones at the hands of the Japanese military authorities, and we know that the totalitarian philosophy, whether it is in Nazi Germany or in Japan, is one of cruelty and brutality. It is not hard to understand why people living here in hourly anxiety for those they love have difficulty in viewing our Japanese problem objectively, but for the honor of our country, the rest of us must do so.

We have in all 127,000 Japanese or Japanese-Americans in the United States. Of these, 112,000 lived on the West Coast. Originally, they were much needed on ranches and on large truck and fruit farms, but, as they came in greater numbers, people began to discover that they were competitors in the labor field.

The people of California began to be afraid of Japanese importation, so the Exclusion Act was passed in 1924. No people of the Oriental race could become citizens of the United States by naturalization, and no quota was given to the Oriental nations in the Pacific.

This happened because, in one part of our country, they were feared as competitors, and the rest of our country knew them so little and cared so little about them that they did not even think about the principle that we in this country believe in: that of equal rights for all human beings.

We granted no citizenship to Orientals, so now we have a group of people (some of whom have been here as long as fifty years) who have not been able to become citizens under our laws. Long before the war, an old Japanese man told me that he had great-grandchildren born in this country and that he had never been back to Japan; all that he cared about was here on the soil of the United States, and yet he could not become a citizen.

The children of these Japanese, born in this country, are citizens, however, and now we have about 47,000 aliens, born in Japan, who are known as Issei, and about 80,000 American-born citizens, known as Nisei. Most of these Japanese-Americans have gone to our American schools and colleges, and have never known any other country or any other life than the life here in the United States.

The large group of Japanese on the West Coast preserved their national traditions, in part because they were discriminated against. Japanese were not always welcome buyers of real estate. They were not always welcome neighbors or participators in community undertakings. As always happens with groups that are discriminated against, they gather together and live as racial groups. The younger ones made friends in school and college, and became part of the community life, and prejudices lessened against them. Their elders were not always sympathetic to the changes thus brought about in manners and customs.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 09:16 AM
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4. I am sure the people who were forced into FDR's race camps
felt all warm and gooey inside knowing their President loved them so much.
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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 09:27 AM
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5. Here's an insight I had gotten elsewhere:
Edited on Tue May-12-09 09:30 AM by pnorman
Most other politicians of FDR's time, were "orators"; they were skilled at talking to crowds. But FDR "imagined" himself speaking to a small group, about 5 or 6 feet away from him. And that's just how it was perceived by the family group, sitting that distance from their radio.

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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 11:29 AM
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6. Yes. I was reading the memoir of Churchill's physician, Lord Moran, and he said...
that Churchill practiced speeches and didn't give a damn how many people he was speaking to, etc. He was always the same.

FDR changed from audiences and circumstances.

Just as Sinatra preferred to record music with friends in as an audience, FDR did the same. There were usually close friends and advisers around him. One person attending one such broadcast from the Oval Office that came in late thought it odd that Eleanor, who was in town, was not there. After the speech he noticed that Eleanor was sitting on the floor behind the desk knitting.
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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 04:35 PM
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7. I should also have mentioned this link:
Edited on Tue May-12-09 04:44 PM by pnorman
HISTORY: USA: 1930-1939: http://vlib.iue.it/history/USA/ERAS/20TH/1930s.html That's where that Google-search had originally landed me. And skimming through it, gave me those Fireside Chats.

Here's another startling find from that collection, about that famous/notorious "Scopes Monkey Trial" in 1925: http://www.themonkeytrial.com/ That was found in that "Roaring Twenties And The Great Depression" link. If accurate, it would upset some beliefs about "Fundamentalism" that most here (including myself!) have long held. On the other hand, H. L. Mencken's reporting of that Trial, is probably more or less correct (minus his characteristic misanthropic hyperbole): http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/scopes/menk.htm

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