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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 06:58 AM
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Mike Isikoff on Cheney's surprising language
http://www.wegoted.com/archive/theedshow/

They've come to power - they've come to power and are now dismantling these programs that have kept this country safe.

I found his comments very interesting.
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floridablue Donating Member (996 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 07:06 AM
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1. Yo Richard !!
They "came to power" via an almost fair and open election and are now responsible for foreign and domestic policy.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 07:11 AM
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2. It Is Definitely "Game On"
Remember how we kept hearing about the "Clinton Legacy" during his last days...how everything he did was part of that. Either he was trying to build it up or rehabilitate it. I see somewhat the same game going on here...but instead of the corporate media calling the tune, cheney is trying, once again, to intimidate his viewpoint. He's made a career of doing this and feels he can do it again. In his world, he's smart and everyone else is a stooge. At best, useful idiots.

When I think of the booooosh-cheney relationship, the word bi-polar comes to mind. In the first 5 or so years, I vision Hissypit's tag line...whenever booshie got in trouble, he went running for "Unka Dick". But when boooshie's poll numbers went south and he started to take the blame for crashcart's failures, Hissypit needs to turn those horses around....boooshie and his circle (Condi) distanced themselves and a lot of what we're seeing now, as Isakoff points out, is intimidation of the booooshies to either support the crashcart line or remain silent. It's all to muddy the waters and put ? around the word torture...if this works than all other criminal acts can be framed the same way...and will.

What could hurt crashcart's case would be for booooshie to come out and try to bust his chops...and I don't think the manchild has the interest or will to do so. Thus crashcart, once again, feels he's in control and anyone who gets in his way, he'll drive right over.

Consider this the opening salvo of the "who lost Iraq" battle to come.

:hi:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 07:24 AM
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6. What I don't understand is why the men who were in power
when 9/11 occurred believe that they can claim to have kept the country safe.

More troubling is why M$Greedia is giving the party that was wiped out so much airplay. Every Sunday show was filled with failed GOP goons.

Even the DNC gets it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnKR6ztHIIs
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 07:38 AM
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9. It's Proving A Negative...
Here's the game...you never hear the GOOP take responsibility for the lapses that led to 9/11. That's blamed on the Clenis. Thus the calendar in their world starts on 9/12. And since no major American city was attacked by box cutters and airplanes or some other catastrophe (ala London or Madrid), somehow booooshie "kept us safe". You can't deny it, but then, you can't prove they really did anything, other than torture, that did keep the country safe. Thus the "justification" for torture and the conveluted concept that since we weren't attacked, torture worked and was "justified"

The corporate media plays their "balance" game...but remember, the reason so many rushpublicans show up on the teevee is that they're all out of work...Democrats are getting business done.
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 07:13 AM
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3. Cheney's wording is important. Tells the story of their sociopathy. nt
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 07:15 AM
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4. Neocons do have a way of digging themselves further in when they open their mouths
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 07:20 AM
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5. Keeping alive the fear of another attack--

from his perspective, that has provided enormous power. I don't find it surprising that he would try to perpetuate (revive?) the theme.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 07:28 AM
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7. It's much more than that
He is actually questioning the legitimacy of the elected government.
Dick believes that he is the only person who can keep people safe and further that the Obama Administration has no right to implement policies based on campaign promises.

Cheney is a dangerous psychopath and I hope the Obama administration is carefully watching all his plants in various parts of the government.

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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 07:34 AM
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8. If we're watching rest assured that Obama's camp is watching
My argument has always been that if we know something, if we can connect the dots, then they can too. The bubble they've lived in for so long was carefully and deliberately constructed. It wasn't that they couldn't hear us. They could, but chose to ignore us.
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