Cheney implicates Bush in torture: "He signed off on it."

[ProSense]

Face the Nation transcript (PDF):

SCHIEFFER: How much did President Bush know specifically about the methods that were being used? We know that you-- and you have said-- that you approved this...

CHENEY: Right.

SCHIEFFER: ... somewhere down the line. Did President Bush know everything you knew?

CHENEY: I certainly, yes, have every reason to believe he knew -- he knew a great deal about the program. He basically authorized it. I mean, this was a presidential-level decision. And the decision went to the president. He signed off on it.

(emphasis added)

[HughMoran]

1. Well, now he's throwing Bush under the bus.

Interesting... :evilgrin:

[tomp]

27. i think that's dragging bush under not throwing him. nt

[HughMoran]

29. Just let the fool keep talking

:)

[katty]

68. yeah, interesting, they must be hearing some actual 'chatter' re:

about THEIR (potential) prosecutions...even if they are down the road a ways.

[jhrobbins]

81. I just read this to my partner and he said that Obama signed something to the effect that

his administration would not prosecute Bush, et al for this. Is this correct?

[HughMoran]

82. I don't remember anything in writing

Just a general "we need to move forward, not backward" statement, but this falls on the justice department and Congress anyway, so I'm not sure it matters what Obama says - Congress needs to pursue this with the help of the justice department IMO.

[BBG]

83. Make it so not so.

The failure to prosecute Nixon allowed the Republican corporatist party to regain executive control of our federal government within a decade. Think of it, the disgraced political party was able to endure the travesty of Nixon and still empower Reagan's administration to carry out their Iraq/Contra illegal foreign meddling.

We must prosecute, locally and globally and to the fullest extent of the law. No longer can we allow the Republican party to conspire against real American interests with their greedy plots to better their selfish minority base. There ought to be a hotline to report RICO enterprises with a reward for information leading to the arrest, conviction, etc.. Hell, I'd make that call without a reward if someone knows the right prosecutor to call.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

2. Bush was the commander in Chief/President

he was ultimately responsible. The ship's captain goes down with the ship.

[UTUSN]

4. K&R #1, for, I can't believe I'm NUMBER ONE K&$!1 n/t

[Octafish]

5. K&R #2 -- a kick to the pants of the war criminals Bush and Cheney.

I look forward to their trials in The Hague, once they've faced treason charges in Washington.

[bobthedrummer]

6. K&R#3

I never give up...

[CaliforniaPeggy]

3. Yeah, yeah, Bush signed off on it...

Take a little responsibility for yourself, Cheney.

Sickening.

[laundry_queen]

22. Typical republican. Always blame someone else.

Throw anyone you can under the bus to save yourself.
What despicable human beings.
K&R.

[Towlie]

66. I disagree. If Bush deserves the blame then this particular act of Cheney's is hardly "despicable".

[laundry_queen]

72. They both deserve the blame.

And they are both despicable.

[Towlie]

76. Yes they do and yes they are, but Cheney's not despicable because he "threw Bush under the bus."

Forgive me, but I have a big problem with the Mafia-like philosophy of looking down upon a "rat" for delivering sincere incriminating testimony.

[Hannah Bell]

85. bush *deserves* to be thrown under the bus. multiple times, if possible.

[Kaleko]

7. So Cheney called Bush a bald-faced liar by implication.

Remember the chimp proclaiming, "We don't torture!", and vowing that anyone found to be complicit in the Abu Ghraib torture scandal would be prosecuted?

[TheBigotBasher]

8. 10 Downing Street has a petition site

I have asked for an enquiry into whether the UK was complicit. We were promised a full Iraq enquiry. It has not been forthcoming.

http://thebigotbasher.wordpress.com/2009/05/05/submitted-on-friday-still-not-up-i-want-a-uk-war-crimes-investigation/

Needless to say, the petition has not as yet been accepted by Downing Street, so I am going to rephrase and retry.

[I Have A Dream]

37. Thanks for your efforts. TBB. nt

[dflprincess]

9. Maybe Cheney is trying to lay the groundwork for a plea agreement

Is that done at The Hague?

[bleever]

10. "He basically authorized it."

Why the modifier "basically"?

Because his authorization was a formality. Cheney made sure he had one set of views, so that when the paper was put in front of him, the "president" felt like he was taking bold and decisive action. Like a decider. Not like his wishy-washy dad.

Cheney played W like a tilted pinball machine. W might even be catching on at this point.

[TheBigotBasher]

11. That is a big "might"

i think he still believes it was all legitimate.

[bleever]

20. The internal conflict would be tremendous

if he had the suspicion.

Self-doubt is not part of W's repertoire, is it?

[kentuck]

14. I think this is right...

Dubya knew all this before he left office. He probably blames Cheney for his carp-sucking bottom ratings?

[bleever]

21. Blaming comes naturally to W, so when push comes to shove,

he's going to go there, no question.

Because Lord knows, HE can't be responsible.

[Psychic Consortium]

74. Yes, he will say he is a victim, it is everyone else's fault. nt

[jazzjunkysue]

57. They let George play president, and George was stupid enough to trust them.

Of course, that was before Cheney shot his friend in the face.

How could he have known Dick would break the law and then blame the boss?

Mission Accomplished.

[MadMaddie]

12. Yummmy!! This is starting to get good

He is now putting the pen in *'s hand. The smoking gun shall we say....

The Hague is listening....

The DOJ is going to be forced to investigate....the Repugs are putting the evidence in their hands.

[tblue37]

13. W "signed off on it," but Cheney formulated this policy--and most others. nt

[bottomtheweaver]

15. Wow. The canaries are singing.

Yes, the little master signed off on all of it, every assassination, every sadistic crime, but who knew Igor would be singing before he's even in the dock?

[FailureToCommunicate]

16. I will pay cash type money to see their perp walk and hear the steel door of the

grey bar hotel clang shut on their sorry war criminal asses!

[47of74]

18. Me too.

And I hope it's the ADX Florence Greybar Hotel in Colorado.

[FailureToCommunicate]

19. Wow. That sounds like a good choice. Cheney/Bush would have famous company

at that establishment. Thanks for the mention.

here is a list of guests there already:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prisoners_at_ADX_Florence

[file83]

67. You do pay cash type money: TAXES!!!!

We all do and I expect to watch these perps walk!!!

[TankLV]

17. My my my - it's not the LIE - it's the COVERUP...

it IS really DIFFICULT to maintain a LIE and the wheels are falling off THAT bus - finally!!!

[flvegan]

23. I can't believe I'm only the 26th Rec.

This should already be over 100.

[bridgit]

24. Legal jeopardy precedes all such wonton dissemination oh fucking well ~

The 'aspens' have already turned boohoo :nopity:

[omega minimo]

25. Dick Slimey

:evilfrown:

[Cowpunk]

26. If You Ask Me, He's Throwing Down the Gauntlet

I think Cheney is sending a clear message to the Obama administration and the media/political establishment: If there are going to be any prosecutions, you might as well start with President Bush. He knows that that's the last thing the wise old men of Washington want to see happening, and he's counting on the fact that Obama knows it too. The message to Obama is: Try anything serious, and the villagers will bury you.

[sellitman]

32. Bingo!

We have a winner.

The real question is will President Obama call his bluff?

[Nay]

49. Agreed. He's DARING Obama to do anything about it. I hope to be

pleasantly surprised by the arrests of these black-hearted bastards, but.....

[NewJeffCT]

78. You're right - he's daring them to do something about it

just like when Democrats took over Congress, Bush basically dared them to impeach.

Look how that went.

[Echo In Light]

28. K&R

[bdamomma]

30. oh crap, keep on talking cheney the evidence of committing

war crimes is mounting now if someone or somebody has the balls to prosecute.

[bdamomma]

31. kick

[bdamomma]

33. not related to post but it shows how sick Cheney is.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gMy6C2AiBsrQQ-jwPliaZANmi7kQD983HB282

[chill_wind]

34. And they are *both still walking around and living out their lives freely.*

eom

[bvar22]

35. Lets hurry up and have a "Congressional Truth and Reconciliation Commission"...

...so we can get over this and start looking forward.

The 9-11 Congressional Whitewash Commission was so healing.
We need some more of that.

[kentuck]

36. Damn...

I hope Cheney is on Stephanoupolous next week. The more he talks the more beans he spills.

[bdamomma]

48. cheney is trying to bait the Dem leadership to prosecute this

could be a rallying cry for the repigs to band together again. Cheney is a real POS!

[bbgrunt]

56. I think you are exactly right about this....of course that

doesn't mean it shouldn't be prosecuted. Once the evidence about the torture of children comes out I sure hope most repukes won't find this a rallying cry any more.l

[stlsaxman]

79. Why? He'll just get Hannity- written softballs...

[bobthedrummer]

38. "CIA Headquarters Micromanaged Torture" (by Jason Leopold 5-11-09 Truthout)-kick

http://www.truthout.org/051109J

[earth mom]

39. K & R!

:kick:

[mzmolly]

40. The decider, decided?

Huh, go figure.

[onlyadream]

41. Don't ya just wonder what Bush has been doing these days?

Does he even watch the news?

[AlbertCat]

62. No...He's drinking and raising $$$. What else can he do? Eat pretzels? No.

[BonnieJW]

42. The PDF should be sent to Holder.

How can he NOT prosecute??? A special prosecutor must be assigned. This guy is BEGGING to go to prison.

[barbtries]

43. at the end of the day

they're all fucking cowards with no souls, no conscience, no guts. absolutely hateful. how does this motherfucker still get on tv?

[No Elephants]

44. Please keep repeating it until every f*cker we elect President really, really

gets it, once and for all:

[defendandprotect]

45. Bush had given Cheney control over NORAD . . . .

Meanwhile, why doesn't the MSM ever ask if TORTURE was the long, meaningless road

to destruction of human rights when all the Bush/Cheney thugs had to do was pay

attention to the intelligence on 9/11 -- "Bin Laden Determined To Strike Wihtin The US"

from the CIA and all over the world, including the UN National Security Council IN AUGUST --

and have simply stopped the 9/11 attacks??????

No wars, no bankrupting the Treasury, no TORTURE, no prisons -- no attacks???????????


If this gets dangerous to W, you'll see Papa bear Bush stepping in to control Cheney --

[The Hope Mobile]

46. TOTALLY DESPERATE! nt

[Parker CA]

51. Precisely. He's in complete self destruction mode. n/t.

[DirtyDawg]

47. I think everything Cheney is doing....

...in his campaign to criticize Obama and his administration, is designed to open up the Pandora's Box of crap that he knows is there, and that he knows will basically fry Geedubya in oil. Sure he, Cheney, will go down with him but the vindictive, sadistic prick wants to smash George Bush and his entire Presidency just so he can get even for Scooter Libby...and who knows how much else.

[SlingBlade]

50. LOL K&R

[hisownpetard]

52. 69th K&R. Bush riled up Cheney just before he left office by not pardoning Scooter Libby

across the board - and Cheney is a sore loser.

W wasn't even smart enough to know *that*.

[shagsak]

53. And the great trainwreck of the 21st century rolls on

I'm gonna need more popcorn.

[Bette Noir]

54. Put 'em all in prison.

[Initech]

55. Lock 'em up and throw away the key.

[Pithy]

58. Badda bing

K&R

[notadmblnd]

59. Tossing baby bush under the bus might piss off poppy

The old dick better watch out, he might wake up one day and find out he's been suicided.

[FraDon]

80. I always thought Babs was really the one to fear ...

in the Hou$e of Bu$h.

[shadowknows69]

60. Oh so NOW George was the President.

[The Backlash Cometh]

61. I bet Bush feels betrayed, right about now.

[AlbertCat]

64. Bush only has 2 feelings: betrayed... and high.

[spanone]

63. k&r

maybe this whole this is to fuck with junior*

cheney is one evil fuck

[glitch]

65. Cheney is now dead to Barb.

Poppy gonna fry his ass, too.

[tanyev]

69. Your Honor, Exhibit A.

[mascarax]

70. Cheney's worried

That's why he can't keep his mouth shut. And can't stay off the talk show circuit.

[feslen]

71. "Run little man run"

"Run little man Run!"

No where to go anymore, no where to hide! Being good, moral and ethical is something Dickless can't abide.


Mr. Dickless has thrown everybody but himself in front of the train, when he faces Truth he hides like a bawling baby.

ahhhh to see him self-destruct is totally hilarious and worth it (even if he and those Criminals never go to prison).

[nc4bo]

73. What's turdblossum up to and why the revelation?

Something's fishy and I'm dying to know what slick Dick is up to.

The conniving half-dead bastard is not stupid.

:popcorn:

[NewJeffCT]

75. Cheney believes if the president does it, it's not illegal

Where have I heard that one before?

[spanone]

77. he must know something we don't...criminals don't go on teevee and defend their crimes

before they are accused (officially)

[MasonJar]

84. Yea! I'll bet W loves that interview.

[FloridaJudy]

86. Dude was probably so hung-over

He would have signed anything.

[tclambert]

87. Yay, Dick Cheney! Keep tellin' it, Dick!

It's like he's daring anyone to arrest him. He's like a serial killer who got bored just killing people and has to taunt the police and leave them clues to get a bigger rush. And now he's giving up W!

Oh, and he says President Obama is making the country less safe. Which is true if he doesn't arrest Cheney.