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spinbaby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 11:46 AM
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Ohio Christian school tells student to skip prom
FINDLAY, Ohio – A student at a fundamentalist Baptist school that forbids dancing, rock music, hand-holding and kissing will be suspended if he takes his girlfriend to her public high school prom, his principal said.

Despite the warning, 17-year-old Tyler Frost, who has never been to a dance before, said he plans to attend Findlay High School's prom Saturday.

Frost, a senior at Heritage Christian School in northwest Ohio, agreed to the school's rules when he signed a statement of cooperation at the beginning of the year, principal Tim England said.

The teen, who is scheduled to receive his diploma May 24, would be suspended from classes and receive an "incomplete" on remaining assignments, England said. Frost also would not be permitted to attend graduation but would get a diploma once he completes final exams. If Frost is involved with alcohol or sex at the prom, he will be expelled, England said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090508/ap_on_re_us/us_school_dance_flap
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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 11:48 AM
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1. No problem with that.
Private schools get to set their rules and he signed them when he decided to go there. The rules seem batshitcrazy to me, but it's their football so they can take it home with them when they want.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 11:49 AM
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2. Sounds fair.
Edited on Fri May-08-09 11:50 AM by JVS
The school belongs to a church that forbids dancing, the kid has decided to go to a dance. They told him before the dance, so this isn't a case of the kid doing something and then finding out that it has weighty consequences after the fact.

It is nice that the school has taken a moderate position by agreeing to grant a diploma pending exams.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 11:53 AM
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3. This sorta happened to me. Hubby's parents said he could go but warned him if his
Edited on Fri May-08-09 11:53 AM by GreenPartyVoter
future college found out about it he might not be allowed to attend school. (I never thought it was true. Just assumed it was a way of making sure he didn't go. Kinda like later on when we got married and his parents said if we had drinking or dancing at the reception that they wouldn't attend. But after reading this article, maybe his college would have said "Sorry" to him after all. Who knows?)
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 11:53 AM
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4. This is completely wrong!
Oh, wait....no it's not.

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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 11:55 AM
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5. Why should they have dominion over what their students do
when they are away from school? Employers should not be allowed to fire those who dance outside of work, why should schools be able to kick kids out who dance outside of school?
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 12:02 PM
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6. Because he apparently agreed to it when he joined the school
And yes, if you agreed to an employment contract (for whatever reason) that banned dancing away from the office, then they caught you doing it later and fired you for it - they'd be perfectly legal - it's a contract.
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Kalyke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 12:06 PM
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13. But can a minor be held responsible?
Most states will not allow a minor to sign contracts and expect them to be valid - or do the parents co-sign in this case?
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 12:12 PM
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17. I didn't say they were not legal, I said they should not be allowed.
Edited on Fri May-08-09 12:15 PM by ZombieHorde
Gay marriage is not legal (eta: in most states), but that does not make gay marriage wrong.

it's a contract

Are minors legally bound to contracts?
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 12:20 PM
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21. A kid agrees to attend little league practices.
If he doesn't, he can be kicked off of the team.

That's not a legal contract, but it's still a contract between the team and the child.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 12:22 PM
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22. That seems true. nt
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 12:25 PM
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23. Don't get me wrong, I think fundie rules are ridiculous...
...but this situation isn't without precedent. If it's a group you CHOOSE to join (whether it's the Boy Scouts or a book club or a private school) you agree to be bound by their rules...and their rules don't have to be "reasonable".
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 12:03 PM
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8. Because that's what he contractually agreed to do.
I think prohibitions like that are silly....


...which is why I don't agree to them.
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 12:05 PM
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11. Kids can sign contracts?
Huh. Go figure!
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 12:16 PM
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19. His parents apparently did...
...and most schools like this won't accept a student unless they also agree to the rules.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 12:10 PM
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14. They are allowed to terminate if they smoke or use drugs after work. nt
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 12:14 PM
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18. I said they should not be allowed, I did not say they weren't allowed.
Gay marriage is not legal in most states, but that does not make gay marriage wrong.
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jakefrep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 12:03 PM
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7. And they wonder why fewer people self-identify as Christians anymore
What a miserable hellhole that school must be.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 12:04 PM
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9. OT: Findlay High School is Ben Roethlisberger's alma mater
Just found that interesting.
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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 12:04 PM
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10. Reminds me of the old joke
from my days at the Catholic seminary:

Why don't Baptists make love standing up?
Someone might see them and think they are dancing.
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B3Nut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 12:12 PM
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16. The other one goes...
Q. Why do Baptists oppose pre-marital sex?
A. It might lead to dancing!

(ba-dum *tssshhhhhhhh*!)

Todd in Cheesecurdistan
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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 12:05 PM
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12. I applaud this kid
He is choosing to make his girlfriend's prom a special event for her by being there. He is choosing concern for another human being over idiotic "rules" and the fools that try to impose them on him with fear and intimidation. He is a good person, a better person than the people at the school by far.

His parents should be proud that he can care for another person, do something for them and not run from it due to fear others try to impose on him. Even if they failed him he could get his GED and move on. These people have their rules but they ultimately don't have any power over this kid, which will drive them nuts if he goes to this prom.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 12:26 PM
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25. His parents put him in a fundie school.
Something tells me they aren't viewing this as a "proud of my kid" moment...
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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 12:31 PM
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26. They should be
If they don't have enough intelligence to appreciate his courage it is their problem, and they have a bad one.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 01:20 PM
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28. If they had "enough intelligence", they wouldn't have put him in that school...
To be completely fair, if they valued independent thought, they wouldn't have put him in that school.
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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 01:33 PM
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31. I am not taking up for them
believe me
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juno jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 12:11 PM
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15. Who signed the contract?
Parents? Stupid. Probably illegal.

Kid? Illegal. Minors cannot enter contracts.

Go Tyler, dance and be free....
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 12:18 PM
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20. Parents? Definitely....and NOT illegal.
...and the kid probably agreed to the rules. Most of these schools won't take kids who won't agree to the restrictions.
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Dollface Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 12:26 PM
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24. Three cheers for Public Schools!
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 12:47 PM
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27. So this will be the only Prom Thread in Du history...
So this will be the only Prom Thread in DU history which does not contain the standard social denigrations...

1. Proms are elitist
2. Proms are misogynistic
3. Proms are classist.
4. Proms are (insert favored trendy denigration here)

I'm impressed. :evilgrin:


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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 01:20 PM
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29. If his parents tell him that he made a deal with his date to go to the prom
with her, and that he must go, then he can tell the school that he was honoring his commitment and the instructions of his parents. Can they punish him for honoring his mother and father?
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 01:22 PM
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30. You know why Baptist don't screw standing up?
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chaplainM Donating Member (744 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 02:22 PM
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32. Isn't skipping a form of dancing? n/t
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