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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 07:52 PM
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Cheney: "Mistake" For GOP To "Moderate," Glad That Detainees Were Waterboarded
Only tortured when necessary? Sure. Who determined when that was?
He's scared, too. And scary.


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Cheney: "Mistake" For GOP To "Moderate," Glad That Detainees Were Waterboarded
05/ 7/09 06:10 PM


Former Vice President Dick Cheney defended the Bush administration's use of waterboarding on Thursday, saying that, contrary to arguments made by Barack Obama, the techniques were a necessary last-resort measure to get information from detainees.

"I don't believe that's true," Cheney said, when asked to respond to Obama's statement that interrogators may not have needed to resort to torture. "That assumes that we didn't try other ways, and in fact we did. We resorted, for example, to waterboarding, which is the source of much of the controversy, with only three individuals. In those cases, it was only after we'd gone through all the other steps of the process. The way the whole program was set up was very careful, to use other methods and only to resort to the enhanced techniques in those special circumstances."

The remarks, delivered during an interview with Scott Hennen, a conservative North Dakota radio host, glossed over the 266 instances in which the United States reportedly used waterboarding on two terrorist suspects -- a figure that would suggest the technique was either not effective or not really used as a last-resort option.

Earlier, Cheney argued that the policies which he and other Bush administration officials pursued were, in fact, successful, and that his request to declassify information from the National Archives would prove as much.

"If anybody (who obviously has to have clearances) takes a look at the record, they'll find that we had significant success as a result of these policies," he said. "One way to nail that down is that there are two documents in particular that I personally have read and know about that are still classified in that National Archives. I'd ask that they be declassified. I made that request over a month ago on March 31st. What those documents show is the success, especially of the interrogation program in terms of what it produced by way of intelligence that let us track down members of al-Qaida and disrupt their plans and plots to strike the United States. It's all there in black and white. It is work that was done by the Central Intelligence Agency after several years of experience with these programs. It demonstrates conclusively the worth of those programs. As I say, I've asked the administration to declassify them and so far they have not."

Attributing Obama's decision to end such policies to an attempt "to appeal to the far-left in their party," Cheney was not-surprisingly adamant that investigating these interrogation techniques was a bad idea. He also called on the White House to "do everything they can" to stop foreign governments from prosecuting the Bush hands who carried out these practices.

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/07/cheney-mistake-for-gop-to_n_199330.html
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 07:54 PM
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1. Why doesn't Cheney just fucking die
and let the blasted country heal.
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Siwsan Donating Member (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 07:56 PM
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2. I've long suspected he is one of the living dead
Just saying.....
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 08:54 PM
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9. Who knows
:D
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Thickasabrick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 08:08 PM
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7. I have had that thought so many times, thanks for actually verbalizing
it. I've always been a really platonic person but I have such un-platonic thoughts about that guy.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 10:13 PM
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16. So do most rational people
He is my definition of evil
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 08:58 PM
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11. he did
but the evil continues to animate his rotting corpse
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 08:00 PM
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3. Is it OK for another country to waterboard Americans if other methods don't get us to talk?
Edited on Thu May-07-09 08:00 PM by Eric J in MN
Was it OK for the North Vietnamese to torture McCain since they couldn't seem to get him to talk until then?

Anywyay, Cheney is lying:
http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/23/fbi-zubaydah-interrogator-calls-george-bush-a-liar-no-actionable-intelligence-gained-from-using-enhanced-interrogation-techniques/
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 08:03 PM
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4. Cheney is revealing contents of classified documents.
That is a criminal act. Arrest the treasonous bastard.
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 08:04 PM
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5. I think we need to introduce Cheney to
Jon Lovitz's "liar" character. they'd be in love scant seconds after being introduced.
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 08:05 PM
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6. Keep talking.
Dick.

Keep talking.

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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 09:44 PM
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14. You are so right. He could indict himself if he keeps it up. nt
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 08:25 PM
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8. This old prick never shuts up now that he's out of office.
I wish he'd go back into his cave until he croaks.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 08:56 PM
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10. what an arrogant fuck, he is admitting to war crimes and daring the world to do anything
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 09:21 PM
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13. That's my reading
I'm also guessing that he's so pilled-up that he rattles. If the proper authorities ever start closing in, he'll just skip the day's medications and slip away quietly into Satan's waiting arms.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 09:55 PM
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15. Yes he is. nt
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 09:08 PM
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12. This fucking criminal is rubbing the crimes he committed in our faces.
Cheney is an evil son of a bitch.
:dem:
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