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azul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 06:47 PM
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What is a realistic solution to accomplish corporate personhood's demise?
SHOULD NOT THE 14th AMENDMENT TO THE

CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES

BE AMENDED?

An Address to the Gary, Indiana, Bar Association

November 20th, 1936 by Edward T. Lee, Dean of The John Marshall Law School Chicago

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Joint Resolution presented to the U. S. House and Senate by Edward T. Lee:

"ARTICLE _______________________"

"SECTION 1. The provisions of section 1 of the fourteenth amendment to the Constitution of the United States shall be held to apply only to natural persons and not to corporate or other artificial persons created by law…."

www.wilpf.org/issues/ccp/corp/III/III-read2.htm


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That didn't quite work, but that is about what it will take.

I'm thinking that some law passed by some state that puts such restraints on corporations that they have to bring the issue before the supreme court, is about the quickest and most practical approach.

Some legislation such as:

"A business that knowingly kills people as part of its operations shall have its charter dissolved and its assets forfeit to the state, or if a foreign chartered business, fined and banned from all future business dealings in the state."

Any lawyers that can draft such a law for initiative ballots in a state out there, and support?
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The_Commonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 07:00 PM
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1. There is only one possible solution...
Stop buying their products!
Each and every one of us.

Stop

Buying

Their

Products!

Buying products from responsible companies, and putting the pirates out of business is the only thing that's gonna work.
Then the law can follow...
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handmade34 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 08:34 PM
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3. Yes...
boycotts are one of the more valuable tools we have
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azul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 08:43 PM
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5. But when there is limited choice of products and full-bore adverts
pounding away on the consumers, is that practical?


What if disparagement laws, that currently protect food industries from harmful news reporting even if it is true and dangerous to people, were expanded to include boycotts?
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handmade34 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 09:24 PM
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8. whoa...
you pose interesting questions... marketing is very powerful and we are weak consumers... we must educate. as far as disparagement laws..hmmm. I am taking a business law class right now and my book tells me that "to prove disparagement, the plaintiff must show that the defendant 1) made untrue statements, 2) published the untrue statements, 3)knew the statement was not true and 4) made the statement maliciously- with intent to injure the plaintiff" okay, I concede the courts could do damage to us..... So, lets expand the choice of product and get good marketers on our side...

How did we let ourselves go so far astray???
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 07:48 PM
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2. IMO the only reasonable option for the near term is a SCOTUS faithful to We the People that will
reverse pro-corporatist decisions beginning with the 1886 case of Santa Clara County v. Southern Pacific Railroad Company.
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azul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 08:35 PM
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4. Yes. That is it. But there has been no test case brought before it yet.
It has to be an obvious case that the ramifications will be clearly understood to be crucial to the survival of democratic republics. Else corporate-state oligarchy continues unchecked.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 08:46 PM
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6. Agree re test case. IMO some state attorney general would lead if a prestigious association would
generate support.

There are several groups that use rights and liberties in their so-called mission statement so why doesn't one fight for We the People and against They the Corporations?
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razors edge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 09:21 PM
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7. Reinstate the draft.
Make these so called persons register and send all the stockholders to Paris Island when the company's number comes up.

We won't have to lobby to remove their person hood, they will do it for us.

With great rights come great responsibilities.
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handmade34 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 10:24 PM
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9. :-)
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 12:00 AM
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10. Short of a revolution?
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 12:02 AM
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11. How about we give them full personhood responsibilities?
Edited on Fri May-08-09 12:02 AM by anonymous171
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razors edge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 05:33 PM
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12. My idea was a rough draft.
Very rough. But I think the point of making the corporation as responsible in it's duty to serve the nation when called on, and serve the punishment extracted from the physical citizen when laws are broken, is the way to start.
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