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undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 03:32 AM Original message |
bullying makes kids psychotic |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 05:38 AM Response to Original message |
1. "most are users, scam artists and shady businesspeople"... |
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cbc5g (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 09:05 AM Response to Reply #1 |
25. heh I know when I read your posts it is going to be something I agree with |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 11:42 AM Response to Reply #25 |
42. Well thanks! :) |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 10:06 AM Response to Reply #1 |
37. What do the Inuit do, put them out on the ice or feed them to polar bears? nt |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 11:46 AM Response to Reply #37 |
43. Both sort of - they took the sociopaths hunting and pushed them off the edge of the ice... |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 05:39 AM Response to Original message |
2. Whereas, bullies START OUT psychotic. . .n/t |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 04:10 PM Response to Reply #2 |
80. Thank you. And if we stopped bullies, we'd have fewer victims living nightmarish lives. |
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get the red out (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 06:08 AM Response to Original message |
3. Absolutely! |
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exboyfil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 06:20 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. I was bullied up until 10th grade until I got into a group of good |
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tomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 07:08 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. trauma is well known to cause mental AND physical illness. |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 09:06 AM Response to Reply #9 |
97. "we live in an abusive society" - correct. |
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The Hope Mobile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 04:24 PM Response to Reply #6 |
85. The best thing I ever did for my kids and myself was move TO California |
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Maraya1969 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 06:14 AM Response to Original message |
4. I'm really sorry that happened to you. I wish I had the ability to change people's pasts |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 06:16 AM Response to Original message |
5. The reason primitive peoples tend to have better psychological outcomes seems fairly obvious to me.. |
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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 11:55 AM Response to Reply #5 |
44. You are missing the obvious answer |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 12:49 AM Response to Reply #44 |
63. To the outgoing, our modern society is much easier to deal with |
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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 08:20 AM Response to Reply #63 |
64. My guess is that primal people were more worried about survival |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 10:09 AM Response to Reply #64 |
65. You and I are talking past each other.. |
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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 11:39 AM Response to Reply #65 |
68. Yeah I believe we are... |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 11:42 AM Response to Reply #68 |
69. The only difference between "primal" and "modern" man is culture.. |
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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 12:01 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. No doubt ..but the cultural void between the two |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 12:57 PM Response to Reply #70 |
74. Things are what they are.. |
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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 02:28 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. True...but how we interpret them makes all the difference |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 02:52 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. The thing is though, that the shy *aren't* shy in a small group where they know everyone.. |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 04:22 PM Response to Reply #64 |
83. Primal People Better Understood Their Basic Needs and Emotions |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 06:24 AM Response to Original message |
7. After Columbine, there was a saying that one saw at some online forums re this topic |
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Mopar151 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 07:04 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. At the time, I got an E-mail |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 07:14 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. I hear ya. Jocks are often the repubs of that social environment, & their hangers-on, authoritarians |
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ourbluenation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 08:18 AM Response to Reply #10 |
21. "jocks are often"..."many teachers don't"... |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 08:23 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. I dunno, when I went to school the jocks were out of control.. |
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HughBeaumont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 08:34 PM Response to Reply #23 |
57. It's not really anecdotal, it's the way they are in EVERY school. |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 04:22 PM Response to Reply #23 |
84. Where I went to school |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 09:23 AM Response to Reply #21 |
30. Feel free to read into it what you will, but that's how it pretty much was at schools I attended |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 08:11 PM Response to Reply #21 |
54. Thank you |
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get the red out (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 07:27 AM Response to Reply #8 |
14. "abandonded their responsibilities as social leaders" |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 04:56 PM Response to Reply #8 |
86. Spot on, Mopar! Too many adults ARE enabling bullying so kids will like them |
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Tim01 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 07:15 AM Response to Reply #7 |
11. I know people who were in the public school system during the time of columbine, |
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tabbycat31 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 09:43 AM Response to Reply #11 |
35. I graduated the year before Columbine |
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get the red out (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 07:21 AM Response to Reply #7 |
13. I understand |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 08:13 AM Response to Reply #7 |
20. On top of that a juvenile's brain isn't fully developed |
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bullwinkle428 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 09:15 AM Response to Reply #7 |
27. Except that the Columbine killers were NOT victims of bullies. |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 09:36 AM Response to Reply #27 |
34. And to be honest, the incident itself isn't something I ever examined in any comprehensive way |
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Mopar151 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 11:30 AM Response to Reply #27 |
41. Plenty of blame to go around |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 08:19 PM Response to Reply #41 |
55. That's not true |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 12:43 PM Response to Reply #55 |
72. But it's so much easier to blame the parents. Makes others feel safe. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 09:55 PM Response to Reply #27 |
61. However, he's ignoring a lot of direct testimony from that time. |
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janet118 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 09:18 AM Response to Reply #7 |
28. er . . . But who were the bullies at Columbine? |
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Mopar151 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 08:13 PM Response to Reply #28 |
91. It 's pecking order, not polariziation. n/t |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 10:17 AM Response to Reply #7 |
39. While I can understand the sentiment, that wasn't quite what happened in Columbine. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 09:56 PM Response to Reply #39 |
62. It's interesting you say this with so much certainly, when that was DEFINITELY |
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Mike 03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 05:00 PM Response to Reply #7 |
87. It is an important issue, but the Columbine killers were not bullied by anyone. |
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Wednesdays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 07:16 AM Response to Original message |
12. Any minute now, we'll get the chest-pounding posters |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 08:13 AM Response to Reply #12 |
19. LOL... actually... it DID work for me. |
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VenusRising (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 12:08 PM Response to Reply #12 |
46. 5 hours later and none of those type of posts have been made, |
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Wednesdays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 06:51 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Was that reply supposed to be snarky? |
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VenusRising (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 07:28 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. So it's better to preemptively attack people |
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Wednesdays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 07:44 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Pot...meet kettle |
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VenusRising (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 08:06 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. You handed nothing to me. |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 12:10 PM Response to Reply #53 |
71. Wednesdays was staving off the sharks who smell blood |
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VenusRising (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 03:43 PM Response to Reply #71 |
79. The only problem is that after he said that he cited posters who have been bullied |
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HughBeaumont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 08:57 PM Response to Reply #12 |
59. Yes, because as we all know, EVERY bullied kid is physically able to defend themselves. |
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undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 11:46 PM Response to Reply #59 |
92. The bullying person(s) |
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lostnfound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 07:32 AM Response to Original message |
15. Seems like an important connection to make. |
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whistler162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 07:42 AM Response to Original message |
16. What a load of twattle! |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 08:12 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Really... |
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whistler162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 08:55 AM Response to Reply #18 |
96. Experience... |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 08:21 AM Response to Reply #16 |
22. I agree, absorbing constant abuse for years on end does absolutely nothing to the psyche.. |
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Duppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 09:22 AM Response to Reply #16 |
29. What a ignorant pronouncement, whistler !! |
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whistler162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 08:51 AM Response to Reply #29 |
95. Put simply.... |
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RedCappedBandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 09:28 AM Response to Reply #16 |
32. So a scientific study is a load of twattle, |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 10:21 AM Response to Reply #16 |
40. ugh... |
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JeffR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 07:55 PM Response to Reply #16 |
52. Well, fine then. We await the results of your study that shows bullied |
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formercia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 08:03 AM Response to Original message |
17. I have to deal with it every day n/t |
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cbc5g (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 09:01 AM Response to Original message |
24. No doubt, intense bullying made me psychotic and republican when i was young |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 09:08 AM Response to Original message |
26. I'm not a psychologist or psychiatrist and don't play one on tv, but |
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Duppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 09:26 AM Response to Original message |
31. ugp, as always |
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RedCappedBandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 09:29 AM Response to Original message |
33. Victimization can have dire consequences.. k+r |
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Faux pas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 09:58 AM Response to Original message |
36. Sorry for your suffering. I've seen the Discovery Channel reports |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 10:17 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. I don't think there are necessarily MORE bullies these days than in previous decades. |
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Faux pas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 11:13 AM Response to Reply #38 |
66. You're probably right. I guess mankind will never be civilized. |
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undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 01:22 AM Response to Reply #66 |
94. dupe |
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drmeow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 05:30 PM Response to Reply #38 |
90. VERY true |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
45. It also could be that children who are pre-psychotic |
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Tuvok Obama (380 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
47. Thank you for putting all this together in one post |
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JeffR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 07:52 PM Response to Original message |
51. K & R. |
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Raksha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 08:30 PM Response to Original message |
56. K & R |
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HughBeaumont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 08:41 PM Response to Original message |
58. Don't I know? Look what it made me to this day. |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 09:45 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. My hometown makes me sad too. |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
67. Your thesis: Getting bullied causes mental illness |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 12:45 PM Response to Reply #67 |
73. Obviously, both can be true, right? |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 02:32 PM Response to Reply #73 |
77. Absolutely right |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 04:13 PM Response to Reply #77 |
81. . |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 01:55 PM Response to Reply #67 |
75. My thesis.. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 04:13 PM Response to Reply #75 |
82. . |
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Mike 03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 05:02 PM Response to Original message |
88. I was bullied; it didn't make me a sociopath, it just made me depressed, anxious and shy. |
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drmeow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 05:27 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. it tries to lump schizophrenia in with sociopathy |
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undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-09-09 12:05 AM Response to Reply #88 |
93. First of all |
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