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UndertheOcean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 03:14 PM Original message |
Why isn't there a strong and well established left wing version of AIPAC |
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timtom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
1. AIPAC is all about total control |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
2. There is. |
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kaygore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 05:50 PM Response to Reply #2 |
29. LOL! |
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Sebastian Doyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
3. I think there's a relatively new group called "J street" or something like that. |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
4. Money. |
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liam_laddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
5. Anti-AIPAC |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
6. Tikkun Magazine, Rabbi Michael Lerner, and the Network of Spiritual Progressives ... |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
7. J-street, I believe it's called. |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 03:46 PM Response to Original message |
8. Isn't there one called J-Street? |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
9. There's no Defence money in it |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 04:21 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Hamas missiles always miss you? |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 04:40 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Meaning what? |
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sandyd921 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
11. Here's another group: |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 04:43 PM Response to Original message |
13. There is Peace Now. |
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Coffee and Cake (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 04:44 PM Response to Original message |
14. There is a "left-wing" version. Its called AIPAC |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 04:46 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. AIPAC is a right wing group with little or no support on the left. |
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Coffee and Cake (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 05:04 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. Lol....seriously? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 05:19 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Not at all. You mistake some Democrats for "the left". n/t |
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Coffee and Cake (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 05:35 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. The same argument could be said about the right |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 05:38 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. No, the same argument can't be made for the right at all. |
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Coffee and Cake (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 05:49 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Learn to read. I never called you dishonest. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 06:03 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. No, AIPAC "enjoys" the support of the political elite. |
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Coffee and Cake (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 06:28 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. So is Obama one of those "Democrats" ? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 06:44 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. You are linking to antiwar? If he said that, then yes. |
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Coffee and Cake (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 06:52 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. Is there something about anti-war that I should be aware of? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 06:57 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. You might check with the mods. I was under the impression |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 03:25 AM Response to Reply #43 |
46. Yes - that it is a RW-libertarian site |
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UndertheOcean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 04:48 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. They are leftist like Stalin was leftist , you mean ? |
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Coffee and Cake (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 05:05 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. No, I mean that they get plenty of support from the left |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 05:44 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. So what prominent lefties can you name that still support AIPAC? |
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Coffee and Cake (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 06:00 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. Besides Kucinich, what other Dem's don't toe AIPACs desires? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 06:04 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. You are avoiding my question, aren't you? You say there is support |
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Coffee and Cake (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 06:12 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Not avioding your question since you completely ruled out Democratic Polticians |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 06:20 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. The problem is, if the only supporters on the left that can be found |
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Coffee and Cake (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 06:31 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. I understand your position. The Democratic Party is not accurately reflective |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 06:45 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. Exactly. And the Beltway people aren't exacty without self interest. n/t |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 06:32 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. The big problem about figuring who has ties to AIPAC is that they don't contribute directly |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 06:47 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. That's a very good point, OSO. n/t |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 12:54 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. I just went to opensecrets.org and it seems that pro-Israel PACS dontated |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 04:54 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. In the past, |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 04:56 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. And people seem to know little about it |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 05:47 PM Response to Reply #17 |
27. Even that is at issue. They seem to represent the interests |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 05:59 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. Sure. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 06:15 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. Sometimes it feels like I've been sleepwalking through history. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 04:58 PM Response to Original message |
19. you want a strong and well established counter to AIPAC? Contribute to J Street |
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UndertheOcean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 05:03 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Thank you . |
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