Fundies going after Miley Cyrus(Hannah Montana) for saying Jesus loves everyone

[RamboLiberal]

On the heels of the hate crimes vote in the House - a vote where the religious right claimed that laws against murder would somehow stop them from verbally criticizing gays - the religious right has just launched a campaign against Hannah Montana star Miley Cyrus simply for saying that Jesus loves everyone, including gay people.

Talk about intolerant. Now we're going to threaten TV shows because their stars aren't homophobes? Because they believe that Jesus loved everybody? Should we throw her in jail too?

It's also ironic that the religious right was just all up in arms a week ago when blonde bimbette Miss California lost the Miss USA beauty pageant. They claim she lost because the judges didn't like her answer to a question on gay marriage (she's against it, but her answer also showed a decided lack of knowledge of the English language). The religious right has claimed that since Miss California lost, it shows that all of America is now in danger from the gay agenda. I know, it's all a bit weird, but what's important is that the religious right just launched a well-funded ad campaign featuring Miss California (paid for by the Mormon bigots?), talking about how intolerant the world is for not picking Miss California over Miss Arizona, and then the next day they launch a campaign against a TV star for simply saying she's pro-gay.

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And here is how the bigots at the American Family Association reacted:

Such statements will send the wrong message to our children who are influenced by this teenage megastar. Parents need to realize that Cyrus is not the positive role model she was once thought to be.... Clearly she is confused and does not understand the Bible.


http://www.americablog.com/2009/04/religious-right-now-trying-to-punish.html

[Midlodemocrat]

1. Good God. She's a CHILD. I hope Billy Ray comes out fucking swinging.

I sure would if she were my child. Good for her. BabyM loves her and I think she's kinda cute myself.

[damonm]

4. She has much to learn in some areas...

but here, she's RIGHT FUCKING ON TARGET.

All she's done is quote a basic tenet of Christianity, so of COURSE the freepers are PO'ed...

And you're right, M - she's a cute kid.

[pnwmom]

33. "And a child shall lead them." n/t

[Orrex]

2. My best friend Leslie says 'She's just being Miley'

Good for her! Until about 30 seconds ago I really didn't have an opinion about her, but this puts a big fat check-mark in the plus column.

Heck, if ol' Billy Ray comes out in her defense, I might even forgive him for Achy-Breaky Heart.

[DearAbby]

6. forgive him for Achy-Breaky Heart.

Let's not go overboard here......

[ShortnFiery]

15. You got that right! Arrrgh!

Now it's sticking in my head. Oh the hor-ror! :silly:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4M-4yDlvFo

[GoneOffShore]

60. Achy-Breaky Heart made the baby Jeebus cry!!!

[gratuitous]

20. Not even Jesus loves Achy Breaky Heart

I mean, God, Love, Infinite Mind and all that stuff, but some things are just pure, concentrated EVIL.

But I have to say, watching the American Family Association getting knots in its knickers over the theological pronouncements of a 17-year-old says more and worse things about them than I could in a month of posts.

[anneboleyn]

44. I love your quote -- I am ashamed to say that I like that Miley song.

Her tunes are all very poppy 80s so I can't help but like some of them, sad as that is for me to admit.

[Orrex]

65. That's the only song by her that I can identify

And only because it was in heavy rotation around here for several weeks. It's harmless IMO--certainly no worse than any of the other pop brain-candy that they play.

[damonm]

71. Check out the Lyrics on "Make Some Noise",

...and you may be pleasantly surprised.

[shadowknows69]

3. That's the way I learned it. There was no version of this song that excluded anyone

"Jesus loves the little children.
All the children of the world.
Red and yellow, black and white,
they are precious in his sight
Jesus loves the little children of the world."

There was no "but not if they're gay" refrain in there anywhere.

[Fleshdancer]

5. Isn't this what Sunday Schools across the country teach?

:shrug:

[Ocracoker16]

16. Not all Sunday schools teach hate

The Religous Right definitely teaches that Jesus doesn't love gay people. Ofcourse gay people are not the only group that Jesus doesn't love in their opinion.

There are fortunately some Christian denominations that teach that Jesus loves everyone. They get less attention which leads people to falsely believe that all Christians hate gay people.

[Fleshdancer]

22. no, I meant that Sunday Schools usually teach that Jesus loves everyone

Aside from the documentary Jesus Camp, I've never seen or heard of a Sunday school teach hateful things to children. It goes against everything Jesus stood for.

[tanyev]

7. Gosh, and just last week the freepers were cheering Billy Ray for

blasting Jamie Foxx over whatever remarks he made about Miley. Now they can't stand her. Go figure.

[appleannie1]

8. How can a group that does not follow the teachings of Christ call themselves Christian?

They should change their name to Leviticustists.

[TahitiNut]

19. Wouldn't that be "Leviticussers"?

:dunce:

[damonm]

28. I am SO stealing that...

[Echo In Light]

9. "Clearly she is confused and does not understand the Bible."

Pot, meet kettle

I mean, I'm faaar from being a bible thumper, but seriously, the creepy viciousness of these "family values" vipers is truly astonishing.

Good for Miley for standing her ground

[Jennicut]

10. So they are gonna go pile on a 16 year old girl. Lovely.

Good for Miley for standing up for her beliefs. It was okay with Miss California, right Rightwingers?

[Journeyman]

11. What about that nonsense, "hate the sin, love the sinner" . . .

or is that only used to deflect criticism when someone's up in their face?

Well, I can certainly think of better things to do today than attack young girls for their opinions. Too bad the AFA has so little going on in their lives . . .

[oedura]

69. This.

Every time you accuse the fundies of hating gay people, they say "Oh, no! I just hate their sin."

They're so full of shit.

[Occulus]

70. That *always* turns into hating the sinner.

Always. No exception.

[Wapsie B]

12. So Jesus doesn't love everyone?

Seriously, if you want to piss off a conservative fundie just tell 'em, "God bless the whole world, no exceptions." To them even the love of God is an exclusive club.

[Stellabella]

13. Jesus belongs to ME, dammit! NOBODY else can have him!!!

Waaaaahhhhhh waaaaaahhhhh!

God, what a bunch of snot nosed whiners those religious right wing whackos are.

[jwirr]

14. That should not surprise anyone. The fundies believe in double

predestination which claims that God did not die for all but only those He chooses to save - those he chooses to damn he did not die for. This is a totally false interpretation of the New Testament but then since they are so dumb about everything else why not the Bible? They cheapen His sacrifice.

[mwb970]

49. That is a really strange thing to "believe in".

It sounds like a fairy tale or a bad LSD trip.

[jwirr]

53. The whole fundie thing is like a bad LSD trip and we have been on

it for the last 8 years.

[Echo In Light]

63. For what it's worth, I did a great deal of blotter & microdot as a teenager...

...and never once had any consciousness altering that bore fundie trappings or characteristics.

Just sayin' :)

What we've had for eight yrs is a populace that seemingly abides a reality that only exists in a mass media-induced, propagandized form.

Still going on, too...

[Progressive_In_NC]

54. Absolutely not true of Baptists Churches

They believe that Christ died for everyone and all you have to do is believe in him and ask him into your life. That is why there are Baptist Missionaries in every country in the world and hundreds more going out each month.

I know Presbyterians believe in Predestination, but they aren't quite fundies if you will. I am SOuthern and Baptist, but not Southern Baptist, but most of my family is. And I can tell you that most if not all think predestination is a farce. It totally invalidates the whole free will thing that we were given as created beings.

[jwirr]

68. There is a difference between predestination and double predestination.

[Cirque du So-What]

17. The time has come

to call out these fundies as heretics and cultists - 'cult' in the sense of dogma that contradicts orthodox teachings. It's a mishmash of apocalyptic prophecy, hate speech and 'prosperity theology.'

[damntexdem]

18. Hey, they can't be content unless they can tell their God whom to hate.

Whether or not they get divine cooperation, this agnostic just doesn't know -- but really doubts it. ;-)

[TheKentuckian]

21. The tent shrinking program is in FULL EFFECT

I see they have decided to run the Christians completely out as well.

Attacking kids for say Jesus loves EVERYONE isn't going to play with a sizable percentage of self identifying Christians or anyone sane.
These idiots aren't Christians, they haven't even cracked the New Testament. In fact, I'd say they've got a few very selected verses from the first four Books and called it a day.

Regardless of how folks stand on faith and religion, I think its just wrongheaded to call these insane haters Christians. They are truly the American Taliban and probably the most likely inhabitants of Hell.

[SalmonChantedEvening]

23. Miley gets it right.

No wonder the fundies are after her.

[mwooldri]

58. Her statement about Jesus loves everyone? Made me a fan...

and I'm 34 and my son is at that "girls are yicky" age and most likely wouldn't want Hannah Montana anyway.

[LostinVA]

24. Dear God, I may have to buy a CD of hers, and give it to a coworker's kid

[JI7]

25. so the Fundies believe that Jesus was hateful, that explains them

[walldude]

26. LOL... let em'. THey have been going after Disney for years and years

because of their pro-gay policies. Funny but last time I checked Disney wasn't affected a bit.

[Are_grits_groceries]

27. They might want to be real careful.

Miley's godmother is Dolly Parton. If they go after Miley, I do believe that Dolly will have a thing or two to say. She has said she doesn't care if gay people get married. Dolly is also not one to step back from a fight.

My money is on Dolly and Miley.

[damonm]

29. If they run afoul of Dolly...

God help 'em - they'll need it.

[Mopar151]

47. I hear

Dolly has a huge drag queen following, and she loves them back!

If the Cyrus family is smart, they'll spin this into a TV movie, with a guest spot for Dolly (what a fairy godmother!) - make the fundies look worse, stomp on bullying and bigotry, give Miley a little room to be a real actor, and everybody will get paid except the haters!

[Are_grits_groceries]

62. Dolly made an appearance on

Miley's TV show. I'm sure she will be up to something.

[pnwmom]

30. "For God so loved the world" doesn't include any exceptions.

And how could it, since the fundamental Christian belief is that God IS Love?

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

31. What a horrible role model

How dare she and Jesus love everybody.

[hvn_nbr_2]

32. Jesus loves the little children (except the gay ones)...

Jesus loves the little children (except the gay ones),
All the children of the world (except the gay ones),
Red and yellow, black and white,
They are precious in His sight (except the gay ones).
Jesus loves the little children of the world (except the gay ones).

[krabigirl]

34. Fuck fundies. Hope they enjoy the last gasps of their dying cult.

[madrchsod]

35. her tv program always has a positive message...

[MineralMan]

36. The fundamentalcases almost make me wish Jesus was

real. That way, I could anticipate their shock and awe when they die and he tells them, "What part of love thy neighbor as yourself did you fail to understand. Away with you!"

Alas, it's not enough, and it won't happen, so they'll just have to stew in their own bile while they're here.

[xchrom]

37. nothing like a good Hate-Fest to warm the cockles of fundie heart. nt

[mwb970]

51. Imagine what their lives are like.

Filled with hate and fear every day. Scared of shadows. Hours spent writing and reading idiotic, mean-spirited e-mails about Obama and the "gay agenda". Mesmerized each night by the screeching heads on Fox "News". Praying fervently to the God Of Love for the suffering and deaths of those they hate.

It must be a living hell. These are bitter, desperately unhappy people. And on top of that, they all have to live in crappy little dead-end hamlets (think Wasilla) and seedy, run-down trailer parks! I'd feel sorry for them if they weren't evil.

[Jim Lane]

38. Thanks for the post! I've added this to Wikipedia.

Now, anyone who reads the on Wikipedia will see the RW hatefulness laid out, in their own words.

We may even be able to begin politicizing some Hannah Montana fans!

[sakabatou]

39. Fundies are afraid of love

And only want to define it in black and white terms for their world is in black and white. No grays.

[Marr]

40. 'No! Jesus hates the people I hate!'

How sickening.

[Hannah Bell]

41. Jesus, like most parents, hates some of his children. Only the bad ones, of course.

[bluesbassman]

42. Good thing He has all of those righteous Pharisees running around

to let Him know who the bad ones are too.:sarcasm:

"You hypocrite! First remove the beam from your own eye, and then you will see clearly enough to remove the speck from your brother's eye." Matthew 7:5

[Puzzler]

43. If children can't learn to hate at an early age... when can they learn?

{sarcasm)

[jbnow]

45. That's insane!!! Have they read the new testament ? Still Jesus

might not have loved everyone, though he was fine with most sinners...
but he sure was tough on the Pharisees. Did all that "Woe unto you" and calling them hypocrites and fools and blind and saying really harsh things about how nasty they are inside while appearing so righteous outside. He even called them serpents and vipers, asked "how can ye escape the damnation of hell?"

He just wasn't that into them. Funny when you think about it... who he described so harshly would be in today's terms the very leaders that are condemning gays. Hey he even foresaw the mortgage crisis since one of the "woe unto you" was about
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretense make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.

Don't imagine he'd be too crazy about those condemning a kid for speaking of his love.
But I recall in 2004 CBS and NBC refusing to run a wonderful ad that said "Jesus didn't turn people away. Neither do we." by the United Church of Christ.
They said the commercial touched on the inclusion of gay couples and other minorities and since the bush administration had proposed a Constitutional Amendment to define marriage as a union between a man and a woman the spot was too controversial and unacceptable for broadcast

That was shocking to me. It's true that gays were being politically demonized but that made a church letting them know they were welcomed there (and by Jesus) just a nice healing message- not a controversial one.

But now I understand that better. They must have had freeper types making the network decisions. Ugly

[Norrin Radd]

46. No wonder their numbers are dwindling. I imagine Miley has

a significant number of young fans. This isn't a good recruiting technique.

[mwb970]

48. So Christians believe that Jesus hates gay people?

And now we find that the more people go to church, the more they believe that America should torture people, you know, the way Jesus said we should. The King Of Pain, I believe he called himself.

I'm beginning to think that it is the merest linguistic coincidence that the first six letters of "Christian" spell "Christ". Clearly, the beliefs of these people are horrifically cruel and violent, and about as far as you can get from anything Jesus ever did, said, or stood for.

Hell, I'm more "Christian" than they are. And I haven't been to a church service since 1967!

[cherish44]

50. Jesus died a horrible death for all sinners right?

They are making a mockery of his sacrifice and to say he doesn't love gays is blasphemy.

[baldguy]

52. If Yeshua ben Yosef of the Galilee showed up in America tomorrow

The church-going conservative Christians would have him dead by the end of next week.

[MadHound]

55. Wait, didn't Christ say that he loves everybody?

And isn't one of the basic tenants of evangelical and fundamental Christianity is that they take the word of the Bible, and Christ, literally? But now they're rejecting Christ's commands to love everybody?

My head hurts, these people are fucking insane, and they're certainly not Christians.

[Bill McBlueState]

56. "didn't Christ say that he loves everybody"

I don't know; is that in the gospels somewhere?

[MadHound]

59. Yes, that was a rhetorical question

Christ mentions several times throughout the gospels about loving everyone, from the least among us on up, love thy neighbor, etc. etc. These so called fundamentalists are violating their own religious tenants.

[Bill McBlueState]

57. Does Jesus love everyone?

Like almost any issue in Christianity, you could probably paste together biblical passages to make an argument for either answer to the question. :shrug:

[jazzjunkysue]

61. The Gay Agenda: Buy Designer, Travel 1st class, Attend theater.

I can see why they're terrified.

They might just make the whole country get dressed up and go out and have fun.

Scares the crap out of me!
:scared:

[Egnever]

64. Yea well they love torture too! What do you expect from these morans.

Not a big fan of hanah myself but it has nothing to do with her statement on jesus.

[Arkana]

66. Smart kid.

And if the retards at the AFA think it'll do anything to her numbers they're fools.

[Kalyke]

67. Did the Fundies not learn the great Sunday School classic?

Jesus loves me! this I know,
For the Bible tells me so.
Little ones to Him belong;
they are weak but He is strong.

Yes, Jesus loves me!
Yes, Jesus loves me!
Yes, Jesus loves me!
The Bible tells me so.

Jesus loves me! loves me still,
'tho I'm very weak and ill,
that I might from sin be free,
bled and died upon the tree.

Yes, Jesus loves me!
Yes, Jesus loves me!
Yes, Jesus loves me!
The Bible tells me so.

Jesus loves me! He who died
heaven's gate to open wide;
He will wash away my sin,
let His little child come in.

Yes, Jesus loves me!
Yes, Jesus loves me!
Yes, Jesus loves me!
The Bible tells me so.

Jesus loves me! He will stay
close beside me all the way.
Thou hast bled and died for me,
I will henceforth live for Thee.

Yes, Jesus loves me!
Yes, Jesus loves me!
Yes, Jesus loves me!
The Bible tells me so.


Pretty easy to understand, if you ask me.

[Taverner]

72. Prof positive the AFA doesn't "Love the sinner, hate the sin"

As if homosexuality was a sin to begin with, but I digress...

[JonLP24]

73. Didn't Jesus love everyone including "sinners"?

This was taught to me when I was child in church. No longer religous but I thought it was commonly taught that Jesus does love everyone.

[ddeclue]

74. Jesus is speechless...

[Elidor]

75. That was Mr. Rogers' stance, too

"God loves you just the way you are." I can't get over all these assholes who say 'God wants you to HATE.'

[Ignis]

76. Heretic! Next she'll be saying Christians can eat pork!

What's next? Christians can wear clothes of mixed fibers?!? This is lunacy!

:dunce: