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ConsAreLiars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 03:53 AM Original message |
For those of you who support the death penalty, whether driven by fear or hate, listen to the words |
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coyotespaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 04:08 AM Response to Original message |
1. I consider myself a rather progressive fellow |
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ConsAreLiars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 04:16 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. You are in good company. |
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coyotespaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 04:37 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. My position is not one of hate... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 10:14 PM Response to Reply #3 |
81. When we reach that point perhaps I will consider the death penalty |
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coyotespaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 02:18 AM Response to Reply #81 |
86. I agree entirely |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 09:52 PM Response to Reply #2 |
76. Wrong place, self delete. |
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RedCappedBandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 08:58 AM Response to Reply #1 |
25. It's impossible to have that degree of certainty |
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JHB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 10:13 AM Response to Reply #25 |
51. So? Then execution isn't an option. |
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patriotvoice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 09:11 AM Response to Reply #1 |
31. "That [all men] are endowed with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life..." |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 09:25 AM Response to Reply #31 |
35. well said. n/t |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 09:30 AM Response to Reply #31 |
36. Apply that standard to a populace that sits by idly while their elected govt commits aggression |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 09:56 AM Response to Reply #36 |
48. there aren't any scales of "wrong"- |
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coyotespaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 02:28 AM Response to Reply #31 |
87. At the same time, |
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patriotvoice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 10:44 AM Response to Reply #87 |
98. The slope freezes over. |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 09:56 PM Response to Reply #1 |
78. Removing them from society permanently doesn't mean you have to kill them |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 07:05 AM Response to Reply #78 |
89. Bingo. |
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polmaven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 07:42 AM Response to Reply #78 |
93. Exactly.... |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 04:41 AM Response to Original message |
4. I had a big celebration the morning Timothy McVeigh was executed |
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ConsAreLiars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 04:54 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Another vote for the death penalty based on hatred. |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 05:14 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Absolutely! I hate Timothy McVeigh. |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 05:32 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. When you start thinking that way |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 09:33 AM Response to Reply #8 |
39. ..and the volatile emotions fueling it that can obscure crucial data in determining guilt |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 10:43 AM Response to Reply #39 |
52. A lot of people don't realize |
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prolesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 04:56 PM Response to Reply #4 |
56. Why did you celebrate? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 07:26 PM Response to Reply #4 |
62. Wow. That's creepy. |
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polmaven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 07:46 AM Response to Reply #62 |
94. It's more than creepy. |
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hobbit709 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 05:26 AM Response to Original message |
7. Tell me that someone who scores 22 on the "Most Evil" scale |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 08:38 AM Response to Reply #7 |
16. The evilness of the perp is irrelevant to death penalty. |
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democrank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 05:47 AM Response to Original message |
9. Against the death penalty for nearly 50 years |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 05:51 AM Response to Original message |
10. In some cases I find the death penalty justifiable... |
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Shell Beau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 07:34 PM Response to Reply #10 |
65. I agree with you. Mostly I am against the death penalty, but there are |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 09:12 AM Response to Reply #10 |
96. I'm curious why you think life in prison is far more effective. |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 03:59 PM Response to Reply #96 |
100. Because people are scared of death. |
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quickesst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 05:59 AM Response to Original message |
11. Just......dumb... |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 08:41 AM Response to Reply #11 |
17. You should be proud of your third world beliefs. |
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RedCappedBandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 08:59 AM Response to Reply #11 |
27. Death penalty advocates are just as responsible |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 07:26 PM Response to Reply #11 |
61. The truth can be very unpleasant. |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 03:37 AM Response to Reply #11 |
88. "predators who kidnap, rape, and kill small children appreciate your support" |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 06:33 AM Response to Original message |
12. Nuff said |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 08:47 AM Response to Reply #12 |
21. not 'nuff'- man has been doing it your way |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 04:43 PM Response to Reply #21 |
53. We are all products of our experiences |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 04:53 PM Response to Reply #12 |
55. How many innocent people are you willing to kill to punish that man? |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 07:27 PM Response to Reply #55 |
63. An extension of my previous response #53 |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 08:09 AM Response to Reply #63 |
95. But I think you're still answering the wrong question. |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 07:56 PM Response to Reply #95 |
103. I do believe, at least in my state, |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 09:13 AM Response to Reply #63 |
97. our fundamental difference- |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 08:02 PM Response to Reply #97 |
104. I am hardened |
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asteroid2003QQ47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 07:13 AM Response to Original message |
13. "Fear or hate" options bespeaks volumes about you! |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 08:31 AM Response to Original message |
14. it is pre-meditated, murder- and justify it any way you like- it is |
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backtoblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 09:04 AM Response to Reply #14 |
30. Murder is wrong no matter who does it. nt |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 10:11 PM Response to Reply #14 |
80. Consider this: |
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ourbluenation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 08:35 AM Response to Original message |
15. If some monster murders one of my kids I want him/her dead. n/t |
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Bill McBlueState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 08:43 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. I think most people would. |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 08:06 PM Response to Reply #18 |
67. I don't think that's necessarily true. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 08:45 AM Response to Reply #15 |
20. And that isn't a justification for the death penalty. |
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ourbluenation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 08:53 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. It's not about revenge, it's about justice and that to me is justice for a murder like Polly Klass |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 09:16 AM Response to Reply #22 |
32. as a mother |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 09:45 AM Response to Reply #22 |
42. Yes, it's all about revenge, and about nothing else. |
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ourbluenation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 09:53 AM Response to Reply #42 |
46. My position is not irrational to me but thank you for taking the time to respond. n/t |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 08:11 PM Response to Reply #42 |
68. That, I think, is the strongest argument against the death penalty. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 08:48 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. However one feels about the moral issue, the flaws of the Justice system compel opposition. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 07:28 PM Response to Reply #22 |
64. That isn't justice. You can't justify the killing of a child by killing someone else. |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 09:31 AM Response to Reply #20 |
37. It is in a represetative democracy |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 09:39 AM Response to Reply #37 |
41. and 'voters have elected leaders who' declare war on sovereign |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 09:45 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Capital Punishment does happen with the consent of the majority: |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 09:51 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. not going to |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 10:02 PM Response to Reply #45 |
79. There is such a thing as "tryanny of the majority" also |
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Thothmes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 07:22 PM Response to Reply #41 |
60. Yes, that is what our Constitution allows them to do |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 09:47 AM Response to Reply #37 |
44. The same could be said of slavery and other outrages. |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 08:54 AM Response to Reply #15 |
23. acting on wants" is what often puts people |
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ourbluenation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 08:58 AM Response to Reply #23 |
26. nobody is executed impusively. The appeal process takes years and years... |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 09:24 AM Response to Reply #26 |
33. which makes |
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RedCappedBandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 09:01 AM Response to Reply #15 |
28. Attitudes such as this are precisely why our justice system |
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ourbluenation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 09:04 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. that is true. n/t |
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prolesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 04:58 PM Response to Reply #15 |
57. So the state should serve as a tool for your bloodlust? |
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InvisibleTouch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 09:25 PM Response to Reply #15 |
72. Agreed. |
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Bill McBlueState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 08:44 AM Response to Original message |
19. With a subject line like that, you won't convince anyone of anything |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 09:33 AM Response to Reply #19 |
38. what's the bottom line though? Did the OP initiate |
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Tim01 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 08:56 AM Response to Original message |
24. I really do think decisisions should be based on emotional song videos. |
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ourbluenation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 10:01 AM Response to Reply #24 |
50. Exactly. And for my honest reponse on where I'm coming from I got raked by some. |
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Tim01 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 04:43 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. That's what you get for being honest. |
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ourbluenation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 05:33 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. didn't lose a kid. no worries there. n/t |
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Tim01 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 05:59 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. I'm glad. My friend lost his daughter to cancer. It is really bad. nt |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 09:25 AM Response to Original message |
34. I'm vehemently anti-death penalty, and this doesn't help our side at all. |
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ContraBass Black (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 09:37 AM Response to Original message |
40. I oppose the death penalty |
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Heidi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 09:53 AM Response to Original message |
47. Attempts at emotional manipulation aren't the way to go on this issue, in my opinion. |
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Shell Beau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 08:02 PM Response to Reply #47 |
66. Exactly. I am mostly against the death penalty. |
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MasonJar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 10:00 AM Response to Original message |
49. Death penalty should be reserved for treason. I insist it be retained for the Bushista. |
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dustbunnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 08:39 PM Response to Original message |
69. This may sound simplistic - |
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MrSlayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 09:16 PM Response to Original message |
71. Your point is ridiculous. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 09:28 PM Response to Original message |
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nomorenomore08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 09:38 PM Response to Original message |
74. I'm not big on the DP myself, but this OP is kind of needlessly inflammatory. |
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ForrestGump (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 09:50 PM Response to Original message |
75. People who post loaded thread titles, designed and skewed to put on the defensive any dissenters, |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 08:47 PM Response to Reply #75 |
106. W - - I - - -L - - S- - O - - N - - - ! ! ! |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 09:54 PM Response to Original message |
77. This reminds me of conservatives attempting to squash dissent on abortion. |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 10:14 PM Response to Original message |
82. Ah, horseshit. |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 10:34 PM Response to Original message |
83. I think the lyrics made a pretty good case for the death penalty. |
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ConsAreLiars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 01:12 AM Response to Original message |
84. Thanks to those who have contributed their views to this discussion. |
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Politicalboi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 02:04 AM Response to Original message |
85. I am for the DP in some cases |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 07:29 AM Response to Original message |
90. I've never supported the death penalty, |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 07:33 AM Response to Original message |
91. ttt |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 07:37 AM Response to Original message |
92. I'll repost this (you may have seen it) |
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jmg257 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
99. Ahh - never mind. nt |
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snooper2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
101. If you rape and/or kill a child or baby... |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 04:07 PM Response to Reply #101 |
102. wrong- |
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snooper2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 12:39 PM Response to Reply #102 |
107. well, |
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LiberalPersona (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 08:36 PM Response to Original message |
105. There are far worse things than death |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
108. I'm not quite sure how posting song lyrics is going to affect people's opinion on the death penalty |
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