Ok this is conflicting info

[nadinbrzezinski]

the boy in la gloria seems to be it

(and yes this is common early on in studies)

[Schema Thing]

1. if more than half of the village became sick

how do they narrow it down to this one boy?

[nadinbrzezinski]

3. They took a sample and tested

and here is the time line for the US on this

After Cordoba said it might not have started in mexico I went... hmm let me see

Notice 2005 was the first reported cases to CDC, animal to human infection but still I went hmm

http://www.newsvine.com/_news/2009/04/27/2739842-a-timeline-of-events-in-the-swine-flu-outbreak

[rcrush]

4. His pet pig has devil horns.

[damntexdem]

17. And Smithfield Farms massive pig factory farm is a few miles away.

But that, of course, has nothing to do with it.

[rcrush]

18. Smithfield Farms raises devil pigs.

[seemslikeadream]

2. 1 boy = 4 weeks = ?cases now

[nadinbrzezinski]

5. More complex than that

I am still going , woman in Oaxaca was first called patient zero, now it is this boy.

THis always happens

Now what we need to ask is... how did it go from point zero on?

La Gloria is not that accessible

Now the woman in Oaxaca was a census worker, met oodles of people before falling sick

[uppityperson]

6. Part of the problem I see here is that most people don't see the process as it happens

They don't see public health issues as it happens. What with instant news and the internet, I find the whole thing fascinating, but realize that it takes time to figure it all out and we won't know accurate and/or specific details for some time.

I am glad there are others here who also find the process fascinating

[nadinbrzezinski]

7. Professional hazard my friend

:-)

For the record it took close to a year for the US Health Authorities to trace this to two troops back in 1918, granted they were not as sophisticated back then in the research

It should have been called the American flu

[seemslikeadream]

8. I find the process fascinating, not panic making like I have been accused of here

[uppityperson]

9. and here are 3 of us

may be a couple more checking in, but here we are.

Hiya

[seemslikeadream]

10. Our offical name is The Swine Flu Truthers

I kid you not someone here has labeled us

[nadinbrzezinski]

11. Well at least we look at bona fide news articles

not the ahem crap truthers actually look at

[seemslikeadream]

13. hey I resemble that remark I guess I am to blame, should I leave the movement?

[nadinbrzezinski]

14. nope

[uppityperson]

12. Hahahahahaha. In bed with Big SwineFlu, eh?

too funny.

[suffragette]

15. Part of the issue may be that samples seem not to have been kept

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/health/2009134941_flufrom28.html

There was a widespread outbreak of a particularly powerful respiratory disease in the area early April, and some people reported being sick as early as February. Local health workers intervened in early April, sealing off the town of La Gloria and spraying to kill off flies they said were swarming through their homes.

Córdova said the community was suffering from ordinary influenza — not swine flu. But only one sample was preserved — that of the boy. It was only after U.S. and Canadian epidemiologists discovered the true nature of the virus that Mexico submitted the sample for international testing and discovered he had swine flu.

So, the boy's sample tested positive, but since the other samples weren't preserved, they can't test those to verify the others in town had the same flu. The other side of that coin would seem to me to mean they can't rule it out either.

I wonder if there is any testing after people have recovered that would work and if there are plans to conduct that or not.
At the least, I would think extensive interviews are in order to try to trace who got what when. Perhaps those are being conducted now.

[nadinbrzezinski]

16. i can guarantee they are being conducted now