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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 09:44 AM
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Why We Must Prosecute - Torture Is a Breach Of International Law (Wapo)
Why We Must Prosecute
Torture Is a Breach Of International Law

By Mark J. McKeon
Tuesday, April 28, 2009

On Sept. 11, 2001, when the twin towers were hit, I was sitting in a meeting in The Hague discussing what should be included in an indictment against Slobodan Milosevic for war crimes in Bosnia. I was an American lawyer serving as a prosecutor at the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia, and there was no doubt that Milosevic should be indicted for his responsibility for the torture and cruel treatment of prisoners. As the head of state at the time those crimes were committed, Milosevic bore ultimate responsibility for what happened under his watch.

While at The Hague, I felt myself standing in a long line of American prosecutors working for a world where international standards restricted what one nation could do to another during war, stretching back to at least Justice Robert Jackson at the Nuremberg trials. Those standards protected our own soldiers and citizens. They were also moral and right. So I didn't understand why, a few months after the attacks in 2001, the Bush administration withdrew its consent to joining the International Criminal Court. Wasn't accountability for war crimes one of the things America stood for? Although staying with the court did mean that the United States would be subject to being charged in that court, how likely was that to happen? Surely we would never do these things. And, in any event, the court could only assume jurisdiction over a person whose own government refused to prosecute him; surely, that would never happen in the United States.

And yet, seven years later, here we are debating whether we should hold senior Bush administration officials accountable for things they have done in the "war on terror."

more at:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2009/04/27/ST2009042702871.html
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Fireweed247 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 10:07 AM
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1. Wasn't accountability for war crimes one of the things America stood for?
:applause:
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B3Nut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 10:10 AM
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2. It seems that, morally, the failure to prosecute these crimes
would put us in the unenviable and tragically-bizarre position of owing the Nazis an apology for Nuremburg. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I can't help but come to this conclusion...discomforting as it is...how in sam hell did we drop this far?

Todd in Cheesecurdistan
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pat_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 02:07 PM
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4. reality is as it seems. Refusing to prosecute buys the USA a "Torture Team " membership.
Edited on Tue Apr-28-09 02:09 PM by pat_k
And of course, it merely shifts the obligation to prosecute to our treaty partners.

Being forced to look to other nations to bring the USA back into the community of civilized nations by prosecuting "our" war criminals is something this nation would never fully recover from.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 12:10 PM
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3. that's when cruelty meant cruelty--cruelty was redefined by Bybee/Yoo to mean something more vague
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Fireweed247 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 06:19 PM
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5. kick
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 06:58 PM
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6. Too many in this country are proud of our rogue state status.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 09:23 PM
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7. If the US wants to send the world a clean clear signal, joining the ICC would be a good move
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