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Smith_3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 02:46 PM
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The rape per capita statistics (1998-2000). USA is way up there.
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_rap_percap-crime-rapes-per-capita

Ok, South Africa ranks #1 as expected. Australia is #3? Quite surprising. The post at the bottom of the page explains why Canada is #5 (their legal definition of rape is very broad). USA is #9 with a rate of 0.30 per 1000.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 02:51 PM
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1. Yep. We should aspire to be more like Saudi Arabia.
:eyes:

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IDFbunny Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 03:53 PM
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11. Where rape is the victims fault?
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DireStrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 05:18 PM
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17. No, his point was that saudi arabia is at the very very bottom of that list
I'm sure Saudi arabia has less rapes than every other country on that list.... :sarcasm:

This seems to be a collection of numbers based on whatever was reported by each country. It seems trememdously unscientific and pretty much useless.
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varelse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 02:55 PM
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2. Read the fine print
DEFINITION: Total recorded rapes. Crime statistics are often better indicators of prevalence of law enforcement and willingness to report crime, than actual prevalence. Per capita figures expressed per 1,000 population.


SOURCE: Seventh United Nations Survey of Crime Trends and Operations of Criminal Justice Systems, covering the period 1998 - 2000 (United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime, Centre for International Crime Prevention)
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dem629 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 02:56 PM
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3. Good point.
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Smith_3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 02:56 PM
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4. Yeah, I guess Saudi Arabia being last is a good example. However I doubt that in direct comparison
with "first world" countries there are such big differences in the effectiveness of law enforcement.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 03:05 PM
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6. RAPE IS NOT REPORTED THERE... a woman needs 3-5 women witnesses to one male witness, if she loses
Edited on Sun Apr-26-09 03:07 PM by sam sarrha
her witnesses suffer her sentence also... WONDER FUCK'N PLACE. there is no law againt a husband raping a wife,
Allah is'n quite as merciful as led to believe.. and on that point.. i'd like to share this

http://users.skynet.be/sky50779/mohammed.htm

a result of halucinations.. not supprised

insanity in insanity out




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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 03:01 PM
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5. But but we are WINNING the war on drugs
We do have one of the highest rates of incarceration in the world.
I guess our for-profit prison system prefers druggies to violent rapists.
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ismnotwasm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 03:49 PM
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9. My daughter is now a CO
She says the same thing. She figures with the economy the way it is, marijuana at least HAS to be legalized. Bit of irony, don't you think? If we made headways on stopping insane drug laws it'll because prisons are in danger of going broke--or making less profit, rather.

We slap ankle bracelets on level three sex offenders and/or publish their addresses, and put someone with a pre-determined amount of pot in prison for ten years. It's so wrong it's hard to think about.

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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 03:08 PM
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7. i just read a report that 1 in 8 women here suffers rape
Edited on Sun Apr-26-09 03:14 PM by sam sarrha
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 03:35 PM
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8. Why am I not suprised about South Africa given that they just elected a rapist to be president?
:puke:
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 03:52 PM
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10. I have a feeling these stats would be very different if some countries were reporting honestly
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 04:03 PM
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12. Hmmm ...did they exclude the stats about rapes in the US military?
Last I heard the stats were about 30% ...reported. Who knows how many never reported rape figuring that it wouldn't make it past the rank and file.
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 04:07 PM
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13. Link?
I'm not trying to call you out, but I'd like to see a link to that 30% statistic. I say this because I spent five years in the military and never knew a female soldier who admitted to being raped and never met any soldiers accused or convicted or rape. I met one soldier who knew another soldier who was found guilty of rape (the victim was not military). Again, I'm not saying your stat is wrong, but would be interested in seeing something to back it up.
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 04:30 PM
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14. Just quoting another Du post.
Edited on Sun Apr-26-09 04:31 PM by L0oniX
I suppose a little bit of Google'n would suffice for a link or two.
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 05:02 PM
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15. Rape victims in the military did not confide in you.
Can't imagine why: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1429515#1429946

"As Congresswoman Jane Harman (D-Calif.) put it in testimony last July, “Women serving in the U.S. military are more likely to be raped by a fellow soldier than killed by enemy fire in Iraq.”
http://www.msmagazine.com/Fall2008/TheScandalOfMilitaryRape.asp
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dem629 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 05:13 PM
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16. Yeah, just forget Nifong.
Edited on Sun Apr-26-09 05:17 PM by dem629
Evidence? We don't need no stinkin' evidence. Just someone's word.

:eyes:

Sorry, but standards of proof still mean something in this country.

P.S. You've been stalking NeedleCast for almost two years? Wow.
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 05:40 PM
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18. Not stalking at all, no clue who they were.
I just recognize generic patterns of behavior among people. If someone is claiming nobody in the military that they knew was raped, I figure I can guess which side they are likely to believe in a rape accusation - and sometimes googling is a quick way to confirm a hunch. In the absence of any other evidence, some people jump to the conclusion that the woman is probably telling the truth, others jump to the conclusion that she's probably lying.

I have a hypothesis that women who are raped are less likely to confide in the type of guy who assumes women are lying. Sometimes I like to test that theory. :)
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dem629 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 05:52 PM
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19. I don't see where that peson said they assumed "women are lying."
Edited on Sun Apr-26-09 05:53 PM by dem629
And why don't they have a right to say nobody they knew in the military was raped or knew someone who was accused or convicted of rape? Should we assume that everyone in the military knows someone who falls into one of those categories?

Or is that poster not entitled to express their view?

It looks to me like that person would believe the story that was supported by evidence.

:shrug:
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 06:02 PM
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21. Maybe. And maybe they also omitted DU's favorite form of rape: prison rape.
:eyes:

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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 06:01 PM
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20. Australia is #3? Quite surprising
Edited on Sun Apr-26-09 06:01 PM by depakid
This is partially due to public awareness campaigns over the last decade or two that have led to much higher levels of reporting.

Not to denigrate the serious nature of the problem- but often times with increased awareness and empowerment (or incidentally, with increased police patrols) you paradoxically see increases in crime reflected in the data (as opposed to what's actually out there in the population anyway yet doesn't get recorded).
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 06:14 PM
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22. Thank for pointing out that some countries define rape differently. Also, in some countries women
are less likely to report rape.
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