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mrs_p (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 09:38 AM Original message |
Some flu facts from a molecular biologist |
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crim son (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 09:42 AM Response to Original message |
1. Thank you. |
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mrs_p (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 09:52 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. i know, just be careful what you breath |
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liberalmuse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 09:49 AM Response to Original message |
2. Thank you! |
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Chiquitita (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 07:30 AM Response to Reply #2 |
123. Source may be US Hog Facility in Mexico |
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Baby Snooks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 09:13 AM Response to Reply #123 |
137. So it's Fly Flu? |
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Chiquitita (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 09:44 AM Response to Reply #137 |
142. It may be more virulent in areas that lack clean air and water |
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drm604 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 09:51 AM Response to Original message |
3. Thank you for posting this. |
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mrs_p (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 09:57 AM Response to Reply #3 |
10. well, i guess i want to say we should be cautious |
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drm604 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 10:15 AM Response to Reply #10 |
15. I didn't even realize I was correcting your spelling. |
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mrs_p (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 10:42 AM Response to Reply #15 |
20. from what i've read |
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drm604 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 10:54 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. That's encouraging. |
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northernlights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 01:21 PM Response to Reply #20 |
27. thank you -- that's the opposite of what I had read |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 01:26 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Mexican Secretary of Health |
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northernlights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 03:37 PM Response to Reply #28 |
55. I was referring to age/health of typical victim |
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Jim Pivonka (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 03:55 PM Response to Reply #55 |
61. This age / fatality pattern also in the Spanish (1917) flu |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 09:46 PM Response to Reply #61 |
106. The 1918 flu pandemic seemed to spare the very young and older adults. |
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FedUpWithIt All (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 06:44 PM Response to Reply #55 |
86. Exactly, they are atypical. Most likely cytokine production causing pnumonia. |
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Baby Snooks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 09:16 AM Response to Reply #86 |
138. The healthier you are, the more at risk you are.. |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 07:35 PM Response to Reply #55 |
90. Everyone can get flu. They go to a doctor when they get "sick". The fact that so many |
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northernlights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 09:18 PM Response to Reply #90 |
100. that's not quite how it works |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 08:25 AM Response to Reply #55 |
126. You are talking about two different things |
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siligut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 03:32 PM Response to Reply #27 |
51. What the empirical data shows us. |
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mikekohr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 03:32 PM Response to Reply #27 |
52. Could there be a genetic reason to explain the high death rates in Mexico? RE Native American HLA's |
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northernlights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 03:48 PM Response to Reply #52 |
57. that is very interesting information |
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mikekohr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 04:02 PM Response to Reply #57 |
63. Tecumseh's Creed |
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northernlights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 05:40 PM Response to Reply #63 |
71. thank you |
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nyc 4 Biden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 08:06 AM Response to Reply #63 |
124. That is beautiful. |
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Jim Pivonka (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 04:12 PM Original message |
This may answer a troubling observation |
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mikekohr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 04:23 PM Response to Original message |
65. It is also possible the death rate is decreasing because the virus is losing |
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mrs_p (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 06:23 PM Response to Reply #52 |
76. there could certainly be a genetic component |
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Baby Snooks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 09:24 AM Response to Reply #76 |
140. That is probable more than possible |
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mrs_p (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 06:19 PM Response to Reply #27 |
75. that is what i heard |
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northernlights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 09:22 PM Response to Reply #75 |
101. I found my source -- the WHO |
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mrs_p (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 08:55 AM Response to Reply #101 |
128. thanks! |
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mrs_p (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 09:01 AM Response to Reply #27 |
133. dupe |
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mrs_p (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 09:02 AM Response to Reply #27 |
134. hi - i have now heard |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 03:09 PM Response to Reply #20 |
39. Or is it a false mortality rate because X number of people who |
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northernlights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 03:15 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. it's equally possible that x number of cases were pronounced |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 03:34 PM Response to Reply #44 |
53. I was thinking this morning of a young seminarian who died |
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mrs_p (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 06:24 PM Response to Reply #39 |
77. very true |
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FedUpWithIt All (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 06:41 PM Response to Reply #20 |
84. "the dying have been the immune compromised, young, and old (which is characteristic of influenza" |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 09:09 AM Response to Reply #84 |
136. The quote from the WHO |
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ekwhite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 06:08 PM Response to Reply #15 |
73. There is no indication it is spreading within us yet. |
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northernlights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 09:25 PM Response to Reply #73 |
103. 1,300 cases, not 13,000 |
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ekwhite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 11:26 PM Response to Reply #103 |
111. My bad - I misread the article |
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FedUpWithIt All (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 10:16 PM Response to Reply #73 |
110. It is now 103 out of 1600 cases. |
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66 dmhlt (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 08:45 AM Response to Reply #10 |
127. Background: WHO's Criteria for "Pandemic" |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 09:28 AM Response to Reply #3 |
141. 20 case in US, so far, no deaths so far known. That's good news. That's NOT |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 09:53 AM Response to Original message |
5. K&R... |
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rusty fender (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 09:53 AM Response to Original message |
6. Extremely helpful, but |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 09:56 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Lots of better bioweapons on there if you wanted to get rid of one person |
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mrs_p (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 10:00 AM Response to Reply #6 |
11. could be, but as a scentist |
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file83 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 11:55 AM Response to Reply #11 |
23. Here's some data for you: |
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mrs_p (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 06:29 PM Response to Reply #23 |
79. well, i never said it couldn't happen in a lab |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 07:45 PM Response to Reply #23 |
91. This is really horrific news. Note that folks in Europe may have partial |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 07:56 PM Response to Reply #23 |
94. More info on the Austria company that released a human/avian product |
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file83 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 10:13 PM Response to Reply #94 |
109. Great links - say, have you read the book "LAB 257"? |
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Baby Snooks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 03:47 PM Response to Reply #11 |
56. Wouldn't they just use an avian flu? |
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northernlights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 03:54 PM Response to Reply #56 |
60. actually, this is a mixed swine/avian/human strain |
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drm604 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 10:04 AM Response to Reply #6 |
13. There is no reason to believe that this is not natural. |
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Jim Pivonka (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 03:37 PM Response to Reply #13 |
54. I gather you are not familiar with investigations underway |
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drm604 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 05:06 PM Response to Reply #54 |
68. You gather incorrectly. |
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Jim Pivonka (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 05:21 PM Response to Reply #68 |
150. Going with ANY explanation is premature. We need more evidence. |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 10:19 AM Response to Reply #6 |
16. Where did it break out |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 10:22 AM Response to Reply #6 |
17. But they wouldn't release it in Mexico. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 02:01 PM Response to Reply #17 |
34. there are now-documented cases of release of bacteria in the us by the ptb. |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 08:56 PM Response to Reply #34 |
98. Apples and Oranges. Bacteria do not mutate |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 01:04 AM Response to Reply #98 |
116. not apples & oranges at all. "they" have done similar things in the past, therefore i don't trust |
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Butch350 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 08:01 PM Response to Reply #17 |
95. Unless the so called Elites had An antidote ? |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 08:50 PM Response to Reply #95 |
96. No such thing for the flu. |
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Lena inRI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 02:42 PM Response to Reply #6 |
35. Rusty fender, my open mind hears you loud and clear. . . |
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quakerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 04:12 PM Response to Reply #6 |
64. That seems backward |
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ekwhite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 06:26 PM Response to Reply #64 |
78. Exactly |
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quakerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 07:47 PM Response to Reply #78 |
92. As a former |
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Butch350 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 07:47 PM Response to Reply #6 |
93. What do you do when your garden is full of weeds? |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 09:58 AM Response to Reply #6 |
143. Part of your mind is sick. Get help. |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 09:54 AM Response to Original message |
7. recommend |
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FedUpWithIt All (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 09:57 AM Response to Original message |
9. Thank you. This is very informative. Kicked and rec'd |
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etherealtruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 10:00 AM Response to Original message |
12. (3) become informed and do not spread erroneous information |
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mrs_p (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
14. i have to go |
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Lena inRI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 03:01 PM Response to Reply #14 |
38. Mrs_p, any precautions for air travel. . . |
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mrs_p (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 06:17 PM Response to Reply #38 |
74. best to talk with your doctor if you plan on traveling |
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Hugin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
18. Great! Some facts... |
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southernyankeebelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
19. THANKS FOR YOUR ADVICE - |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 11:11 AM Response to Original message |
22. kicking and recommending-- an excellent overview.... |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 12:01 PM Response to Original message |
24. and use preventative health methods to not get sick |
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cwydro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 12:48 PM Response to Original message |
25. Question: |
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Wednesdays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 02:48 PM Response to Reply #25 |
36. Best to ask your doctor |
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ekwhite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 06:30 PM Response to Reply #25 |
80. NO |
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mrs_p (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 06:33 PM Response to Reply #25 |
81. probably not |
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GeorgeGist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
26. Thanks for you very nice overview ... |
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ConcernedCanuk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
29. Wouldn't it be some sort of poetic justice if Momma Nature killed more of us humans |
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Chorophyll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 01:47 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Momma Nature has already provided us with |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 03:12 PM Response to Reply #29 |
41. That's a mean goddess you're worshiping there. |
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ekwhite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 11:38 PM Response to Reply #29 |
112. That happened in 1918 |
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ConcernedCanuk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 12:12 AM Response to Reply #112 |
115. I know - we are overdue for another culling |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 09:18 AM Response to Reply #29 |
139. no, it wouldnt be poetic justice. it would be tragedy. as soon as you lose someone in your family |
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Chorophyll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
31. Thanks for the information. nt |
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blaze (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
32. K&R for the good info |
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safeinOhio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
33. question for medical types |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 03:13 PM Response to Reply #33 |
42. That has been discouraged because people taking the medications when they don't need |
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northernlights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 03:20 PM Response to Reply #33 |
46. I wouldn't expect them to make it available as a prophylactic |
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Wind Dancer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
37. K & R! |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 03:11 PM Response to Original message |
40. For an anthropological projection, one could do worse than Guns, Germs, and Steel... |
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PCIntern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 03:13 PM Response to Original message |
43. Thanks! |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 03:18 PM Response to Original message |
45. Legalize LSD. Have one hit for every man woman and child |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 03:51 PM Response to Reply #45 |
59. are you serious, or is this a joke?? |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 04:56 PM Response to Reply #59 |
67. There is a research group that |
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mrs_p (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 06:36 PM Response to Reply #45 |
82. hadn't heard that |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 02:26 PM Response to Reply #82 |
147. This issue needs all the infectious disease people it can garner on its |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
47. Before the conspiracy theorists grab the narrative, could you comment on this |
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mrs_p (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 06:40 PM Response to Reply #47 |
83. in theory |
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quidam56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
48. Sadly, |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 03:26 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. How ironic, that the local community hospital is being closed as of noon today! |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 05:15 PM Response to Reply #50 |
69. People would have to drive 10-30 miles? Wow, that'd be SO NICE! |
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Reterr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
49. So does it basically come down to how many proteases can cleave the HA for internal epithelia? |
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Jim Pivonka (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 03:49 PM Response to Original message |
58. To early to attribute this one to "antigenic shift" |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 04:00 PM Response to Reply #58 |
62. my thoughts exactly. welcome to the DU, btw! :) nt |
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chimpyisstillsatan (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
66. Advice from another molecular biologist |
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ekwhite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 06:42 PM Response to Reply #66 |
85. Good advice |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 07:20 AM Response to Reply #66 |
121. I actually prefer the OP's version. |
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chimpyisstillsatan (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 08:17 AM Response to Reply #121 |
125. sorry you felt patronized. |
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mrs_p (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 09:00 AM Response to Reply #125 |
132. thought people might be interested |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 10:20 AM Response to Reply #132 |
144. I was interested and think this individual has it quite wrong. |
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chimpyisstillsatan (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 07:03 AM Response to Reply #132 |
148. Keep contributing. Please |
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northernlights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 10:45 AM Response to Reply #125 |
146. as a former professional writer |
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chimpyisstillsatan (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 07:08 AM Response to Reply #146 |
149. flu porn |
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Duer 157099 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 05:27 PM Response to Original message |
70. If starting a thread can be done in lieu of an outbreak, I'm all for it! |
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DesertDiamond (838 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 07:24 AM Response to Reply #70 |
122. I was debating whether to point this out. "Lieu" is an oft-misused word. |
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mrs_p (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 08:58 AM Response to Reply #70 |
131. i know |
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ekwhite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 06:03 PM Response to Original message |
72. K&R |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
87. Thanks, but I didn't understand a word of that. |
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FedUpWithIt All (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 06:48 PM Response to Reply #87 |
89. Maybe this will help. It is a bit over simplified but it may clarify some. |
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Baby Snooks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 06:45 PM Response to Original message |
88. It is now unofficially a pandemic... |
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mrs_p (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 08:57 AM Response to Reply #88 |
130. actually, it is still an outbreak |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 08:52 PM Response to Original message |
97. A few more words |
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Juche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 09:03 PM Response to Original message |
99. So does swine flu kill via a cytokine storm |
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Baby Snooks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 09:32 PM Response to Reply #99 |
104. Immune system over-response... |
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northernlights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 09:40 PM Response to Reply #99 |
105. cytakine storms occur in response to an entirely new pathogen |
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Juche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 09:51 PM Response to Reply #105 |
107. Tamiflu blocks the NA protein |
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FedUpWithIt All (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 11:42 PM Response to Reply #107 |
113. Elderberries (ie. sambucol) can increase Cytokine production. |
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Juche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 12:04 AM Response to Reply #113 |
114. Thanks, I didn't know that |
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northernlights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 06:06 AM Response to Reply #113 |
119. thanks! |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 09:52 PM Response to Reply #105 |
108. Tamiful mechanism of action |
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Jim Pivonka (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 05:47 PM Response to Reply #99 |
151. More than one possible cause of the atypical pattern of deaths |
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Jim Pivonka (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 09:55 AM Response to Reply #99 |
153. 2009 H1N1 viral haemagglutinin could induce high levels of chemokines and cytokines |
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Hestia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 09:22 PM Response to Original message |
102. I know this is macabre, but does this remind anyone of The Stand? |
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kickysnana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 05:27 AM Response to Original message |
117. If the "experts" handle this as well as they did Lyme Disease.. |
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pjt7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 06:05 AM Response to Reply #117 |
118. Senator Kyl |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 06:07 AM Response to Original message |
120. Would the last version of the annual "flu shot" contain anything |
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mrs_p (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 08:56 AM Response to Reply #120 |
129. most likely, no |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 09:05 AM Response to Original message |
135. Excellent post |
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chrisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
145. "Pandemic," "Epidemic," "Outbreak." |
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Mike 03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 05:56 PM Response to Original message |
152. Excellent. Thank you. The most puzzling aspect of this strain to me, a layperson, is that |
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Jim Pivonka (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 10:04 AM Response to Reply #152 |
154. You might look at "Genetics of the Influenza Virus" at Nature |
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