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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 08:29 AM
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Did they draw straws and Cheney lost ??
He seems to be the only person from the Bush Administration that has been willing to speak out on the torture memos?

George W Bush....not a peep.

Donald Rumsfeld....not to be found.

Colin Powell.....who knows?

John Yoo...no statements but was booed off a stage.

Paul Wolowitz...somewhere playing music with his comb?

Condi Rice...perhaps out shopping for shoes?

Alberto Gonzalez...what's he doing now??

No CIA agents or military people have stepped forward.

Cheney must have gotten the short straw? His daughter tried to defend him and the torture policy on Nora O'Donnell's show and came out looking foolish. Why all the silence? Couldn't we expect at least one of these folks to step forward and defend themselves and the policies they promoted? Or maybe they have all got the word to remain silent? Even Laura is nowhere to be found...
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 08:31 AM
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1. IMO: Cheney is just scared
He knows he was the one who fabricated all the lies and ordered the torture. He knows that when the truth is known, it will expose him as the master mind behind the whole bu$h failure.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 09:21 AM
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9. When Cheeeneeeee decided that he'd keep
personal files named Detainees, he was very careless so must have the most to fear.
He's scared shitless.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 10:01 AM
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14. Kind of what Wilkerson said on Rachel last night
Cheney scares easily and panics easily.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 08:34 AM
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2. I think the "heart" attacks of old make him think that he could get sympathy ...
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 08:37 AM
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3. Cheney has no future career. He is the goat who will get all the
bad publicity while W and the gang do what they are doing. W may believe he still has a chance at some later position once his poll numbers go back up.
I could hardly understand what they were trying to do when they were in office - who the hell knows what they think is going on now. Right Wing mysteries!!!11!

mark
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 10:31 AM
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15. Maybe he has a future on faux news...
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 11:44 AM
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18. Hell, it worked out well for Pat Buchanan....who ever thought he would
have a real job?

mark
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 08:45 AM
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4. He's the most guilty party here.
He's the one who has a vested interest in justifying it, because just like the OSP, he's the mastermind behind this sinister plan.

That's my guess.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 08:49 AM
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6. He did keep a file in his office ...
under "DETAINEES"...
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 08:49 AM
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5. Nah, it's just every psuedo-warrior for himself/herself.

Also, it's like Cheney to take the lead. I betcha Rummy is plotting a flank movement.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 08:53 AM
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7. I wonder if allof then have a personal atty, and is Cheney listening
the the sttys advice? I've worked around the legal community for 35 years, and absolutely NO atty advises their client to speak to the media! My guess is that they do all have personal attys, and Cheney disagreed with his and is doing his own thing! Bad for him & good for us. Surely Darth hasn't forgotten about that little thing called "VIDEO TAPE"!!!!!
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 09:07 AM
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8. It Shows Who Ran The Show...
...and whose the most culpable. It also shows how far cheeeeney has fallen within his own ranks. No one's out there defending him other than his daughter and low level toadies. Even Rove doesn't defend crashcart other than to use it to bash Obama. The rest know they have been discredited and anything they say will ignite a shitstorm in their direction. They'll gladly let shooter go out on the limb and hang himself. If anything, I'll bet there are some who hope he takes the entire fall...they can slip under the radar with blood still on their hands.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 09:26 AM
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10. cheney's been the loser all along
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SmileyRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 09:38 AM
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11. Cheney was part of the leadership - all the rest of them were stooges.
Cheney is on the board of directors with the predator class. Everyone else who's names we actually know from Bushco were stooges. He is the only face America recognizes that was actually of the "deciderers".

It's my very humble opinion the shadowy figures behind the scenes, who's names and faces we will never know, who actually drive international commerce and law, decided since Cheney is a face we know they'll stick with him as a mouthpiece.

What will we do to him? Not much. Not a chance in hell he'll be executed. Not a chance in hell he'll be incarcerated. Not a chance in hell he'll die penniless. So he looks like even more of an evil fucking asshole for awhile to the American public, whoopdidoo.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 09:54 AM
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12. They figure that Cheney will never get sent to jail because of his heart
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 09:57 AM
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13. I think it was a tie........ Zelikow
Edited on Sat Apr-25-09 10:55 AM by seemslikeadream
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Sal Minella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 10:49 AM
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16. Cheney couldn't wangle a full pardon for Libby out of DimSon --
If people who played on Cheney's team are going to wind up with felony convictions on their records, the number of team players remaining on Cheney's team as time goes on will drop precipitously, I would think.

Some people once close to Shooter might have some interesting things to say, now, since Cheney is obviously powerless to protect them from the law. jmho.

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GreatCaesarsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 11:18 AM
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17. wolfowitz is Chairman. US-Taiwan Business Council
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US-Taiwan_Business_Council


The US-Taiwan Business Council (Traditional Chinese: Pinyin: M?i Tái Sh?ng Yè Xíe Hùi) is a membership-based, non-profit organization founded in 1976 to foster trade and business relations between the United States and Taiwan. Council members consist of private companies with business interests in Taiwan, and range in size from one-person consulting firms to large multinational corporations. Because the organization reflects the views and concerns of an extensive group of US businesses, the Council is generally considered to be one of the most influential private organizations playing a part in the unofficial relationship between the two economies. The organization is particularly well known in the Defense & Security community, as it is the host of an annual US-Taiwan Defense Industry Conference. The inaugural conference in St. Petersburg, Florida in 2002 brought Taiwan's Minister of National Defense to the U.S. for the first time since 1979.
The US-Taiwan Business Council (Traditional Chinese: ??????; Pinyin: M?i Tái Sh?ng Yè Xíe Hùi) is a membership-based, non-profit organization founded in 1976 to foster trade and business relations between the United States and Taiwan. Council members consist of private companies with business interests in Taiwan, and range in size from one-person consulting firms to large multinational corporations. Because the organization reflects the views and concerns of an extensive group of US businesses, the Council is generally considered to be one of the most influential private organizations playing a part in the unofficial relationship between the two economies. The organization is particularly well known in the Defense & Security community, as it is the host of an annual US-Taiwan Defense Industry Conference. The inaugural conference in St. Petersburg, Florida in 2002 brought Taiwan's Minister of National Defense to the U.S. for the first time since 1979.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 11:45 AM
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19. Yep. Ol' Dick seems to be out hawking the goods but ain't nobody lined up
to buy any.


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