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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 04:02 PM
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Kerry panel listens to Iraq, Afghanistan vets - Peace Action Responds
Edited on Thu Apr-23-09 04:11 PM by bigtree
April 23, 2009

Senator John F. Kerry, opening a hearing with Iraq and Afghanistan veterans today, said while he resists comparisons to the Vietnam War, the conflicts in the two nations now do hold some parallels.

Once again, we are fighting an insurgency in a rural country with a weak central government. Our enemy blends in with the local population and easily crosses a long border to find sanctuary in a neighboring country. Our efforts to win the loyalty of the locals are hampered by civilian casualties and an inability to deliver the security that we promised more than seven years ago," he said, presiding over the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

"We ignore these similarities at our peril."

"There are fundamental differences, too," he added. "We have a responsibility to the men and women fighting in Afghanistan to understand those differences and adapt to them.

"First and foremost, the North Vietnamese never posed a direct threat to our country. The extremists we are fighting today in Afghanistan and across the border in Pakistan do represent a direct threat to the security of the United States. They planned the attacks on New York and Washington that killed 3,000 Americans. They have killed hundreds of other innocents in terrorist attacks worldwide since then. And they are preparing new attacks on the United States and our interests even as we sit here today."

Unlike the divisive Vietnam conflict, Kerry said, there is universal support for the troops. "We are all standing on common ground now: We are saying thank you to the soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines who have served. We are not confusing the war with the warriors. So I want to thank you, your fellow veterans and those who are still serving," he said.

read more: http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2009/04/kerry_panel_lis.html


Rick Reyes, The New John Kerry: Afghanistan Vet Speaks Out Against War Before Congress

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The similarities between the situation that retired Marine Corporal Rick Reyes finds himself in today and that which confronted Sen. John Kerry in April 1971 are obvious. At 28 and a few years removed from combat, Reyes has chosen to go public with reservations about the scope and direction of the military strategy his government is pursuing in a difficult terrain. Having supported Barack Obama in the 2008 election, he now is deeply skeptical about the president's decision to send 17,000 more troops to Afghanistan.

"We were basically destroying innocent lives and creating more enemies," he said in an interview with the Huffington Post. "That is exactly what is happening. The escalation and occupation in Afghanistan is counterproductive to what we want to accomplish and the Senate and the president should to rethink Afghanistan."

Nearly 38 years earlier, John Forbes Kerry was in a similar spot. Called before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, the three-time recipient of the Purple Heart declared that an "attempt to justify the loss of one American life in Vietnam, Cambodia or Laos by linking such loss to the preservation of freedom, which those misfits supposedly abuse, is to us the height of criminal hypocrisy."

It was a scathing rebuke from an experienced soldier, one that thrust Kerry into the political spotlight. And, as the cause-and-effect of history goes, it led in a way to his current position as chair of the foreign relations where he oversaw Thursday's "Afghanistan War Experiences" hearing and Reyes' testimony.

read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/23/the-new-john-kerry-afghan_n_190617.html



Peace Action Responds to Kerry’s Hearing with Soldiers on Afghanistan Occupation

WASHINGTON - April 23 -

"It is important to hear the views of U.S. soldiers at all ranks regarding the occupation of Afghanistan. Senators Kerry and Lugar's hearing is a good start. The Afghanistan occupation deserves full, robust hearings like those Senator Fulbright conducted during the Vietnam war and where the young Sen. Kerry testified.

"Peace Action agrees with the wisdom of many U.S. troops such as Corporal Rick Reyes who testified ‘Sending more troops will not make the U.S. safer, it will only build more opposition against us . . . More troops, more war is not the answer.'

"Corporal Reyes is right: 21,000 more troops, air and Predator drone strikes and night raids that kill, injure and traumatize innocent civilians drive people to the Taliban and Al-Qaeda. Instead, the U.S. and international community should increase funding for Afghan-led humanitarian aid, development work, and landmine clean up while supporting regional diplomacy.

"The public yearns to hear the Obama Administration's exit strategy and ‘metrics' that will get us out of the costly occupation of Afghanistan and into providing more resources for smarter foreign policy and solving Americans' problems."

read: http://www.commondreams.org/newswire/2009/04/23-12
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 04:19 PM
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1. Interesting hearing
Edited on Thu Apr-23-09 04:20 PM by politicasista
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 05:00 PM
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2. this crop of Winter Soldiers
. . . has offered a great deal of wisdom and experience to those who've bothered to listen to them.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 05:06 PM
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3. Exactly n/t
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 06:58 PM
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4. How Do You Ask a Man to Be the Last Man to Die for a Mistake in Afghanistan?
Edited on Thu Apr-23-09 07:05 PM by bigtree
What happened today in Washington was, as Senator Russ Feingold called it, "historic." Thirty-eight years nearly to the day when a young John Kerry shocked the nation with his fiery anti-Vietnam war testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Rick Reyes, a former US Marine Corporal, delivered an equally puissant testimony in which he expressed his disenchantment with the war in Afghanistan. How appropriate Kerry should be sitting directly across from Reyes as Committee Chairman, listening attentively as Congress heard one of the first major voices of dissent on this war.

The son of Mexican immigrants who joined the Marines to escape a violent gang life in Los Angeles, Reyes served as an infantry rifleman in Afghanistan and Iraq. He upheld his duty to serve our country honorably, and immediately after 9/11, he was deployed to Afghanistan "with the conviction of fighting for justice and the American way." All of that changed when Reyes realized US military forces faced the impossible task of fighting militant Taliban members who blended in with the local Afghan population, routinely resulting in the injuries or deaths of innocent civilians.

As Reyes told Congress:

"We weren't fulfilling our objective of capturing terrorists, but instead creating enemies out of civilians. As a Marine trying to ensure justice, I began losing sight of why I was there and the conviction began to fade.

"Because our mission was to capture suspected Taliban and had no successful way of being able to distinguish them, we had no other choice but to suspect the entire civilian population, innocent or not.

"One day we stopped at gun point, detaining, beating, and nearly killing an innocent man only to find he was just traveling down a road to deliver milk to his children. Because of us, that day those kids went without a father. There were hundreds of incidents like this one.

"Almost 100 percent of the time we would find that suspected terrorists turned out to be innocent civilians. I began to feel like we were chasing ghosts, fighting an enemy that we could not see or that didn't allow itself to be seen. How can you tell the difference between the Taliban and Afghan civilians? The answer is that you can't. it all stopped making sense."


Reyes is a patriot, but like a young John Kerry, he felt that patriotism exploited when he returned home from these wars. The chaotic violence Reyes experienced, coupled with the lack of clear mission in Afghanistan, led him to question our government's plans for this war publicly today. He cited low troop morale and military forces stretched impossibly thin; soldiers who have already done multiple tours, Reyes claimed, are dying on the ground in Afghanistan and in spirit due to a deeply flawed foreign policy.

more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/zp-heller/how-do-you-ask-a-man-to-b_b_190834.html
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 07:26 PM
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5. Unfortunately, the integrity of these people causes others to ignore them and their testimony.
People of strong integrity makes those around them uncomfortable - especially opportunistic lawmakers of low character and corporate media hacks.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 07:29 PM
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6. I can't see Kerry
Edited on Thu Apr-23-09 07:31 PM by bigtree
. . . and not think of you, dear blm, and how much faith you have in him.

(You have some awesome Kerry radar, btw)
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 08:31 AM
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11. He earned that faith. I can't name a lawmaker who risked more for honest government than Kerry has
over the last four decades.

Imagine how quickly, easily and QUIETLY the fascists would have taken FULL control of this nation by the mid90s if not for the work of Kerry to uncover and expose their illegal operations.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 07:36 PM
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7. Very true. n/t
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 08:10 PM
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8. Kerry's opening statement
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 08:34 PM
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9. thanks, PS
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 06:44 PM
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12. Grazie....and thanks to bigtree for this thread....
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 01:34 AM
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10. .
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