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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-31-07 10:02 PM Original message |
Two Florida cities know just how to deal with those pesky 5 and 6 year old girls. |
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-31-07 10:08 PM Response to Original message |
1. They should have arrested the parents/guardians |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-31-07 10:11 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. They do arrest them when they drive..... |
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Jcrowley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-31-07 10:53 PM Response to Reply #1 |
15. Like as in the entire culture? |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-31-07 10:58 PM Response to Reply #1 |
17. Sure, then they could put the kids in foster care when the parents can't post bail. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 02:28 PM Response to Reply #17 |
44. Common sense is seemingly not a highly regarded virtue |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 06:42 PM Response to Reply #1 |
66. Oh, RIGHT! That's the answer! Lets put MORE people in prison! |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 12:18 AM Response to Reply #1 |
86. Spoken like |
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MrSlayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-31-07 10:11 PM Response to Original message |
3. Arresting them might be taking it a bit too far. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-31-07 10:14 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Yes, they were really tough little kids. |
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MrSlayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-31-07 10:51 PM Response to Reply #4 |
14. Well you know you really can't do anything physical to them. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-31-07 11:02 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. In all the many years I taught.... |
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MrSlayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-31-07 11:16 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Well no. That's not what I'm saying. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-31-07 11:18 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. I just said I taught many years and dealt with far worse. |
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MrSlayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-31-07 11:25 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. I'm not trying to put you on the spot. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-31-07 11:34 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. I don't think I will summarize my teaching techniques for you. |
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MrSlayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-31-07 11:39 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. I apologize if I came off as rude. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 12:24 AM Response to Reply #25 |
31. Thanks. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-31-07 11:43 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Give 'em a bowl of ice cream |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 01:15 PM Response to Reply #26 |
39. Actually that is along the lines of how some of it works. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 01:43 PM Response to Reply #26 |
40. Hell,that would work with me! |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 12:21 AM Response to Reply #22 |
87. It's simple |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 12:37 AM Response to Reply #18 |
34. This whole business has been brewing up for years. I cannot tell |
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mopinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 05:23 PM Response to Reply #34 |
48. mental illness in children is exploding. |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 12:26 AM Response to Reply #48 |
90. Mental illness in children |
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FormerDem06 (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 03:10 PM Response to Reply #90 |
117. I respectfully disagree |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 12:23 AM Response to Reply #34 |
89. No Offense |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 06:19 PM Response to Reply #18 |
59. It shocks me too, madfloridian |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 06:54 PM Response to Reply #3 |
69. Oh, right! CLEARLY the parents are bad parents, there's never another reason |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 12:27 AM Response to Reply #69 |
92. Self Delete |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-31-07 10:16 PM Response to Original message |
5. Cops should have shot them...like in New York, age shouldn't matter... |
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Spacemom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-31-07 10:19 PM Response to Original message |
6. It's called a temper tantrum |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-31-07 10:27 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Well, they better stop having those temper tantrums in Florida. |
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Bronyraurus (871 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 12:17 AM Response to Reply #8 |
85. Well, you can't smack em on the butt anymore |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 05:26 PM Response to Reply #6 |
49. I know - this is amazing |
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badgerpup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 02:50 PM Response to Reply #49 |
116. On a board where the subject was similiar to this... |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 03:47 PM Response to Reply #116 |
118. That's what my mom did to me |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-31-07 10:20 PM Response to Original message |
7. And when you steal hedge clippers and such stuff, you get the SWAT team. |
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REP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-31-07 10:30 PM Response to Original message |
9. They're Trying To Avoid Being Sued By The Precious Darlings' Parents |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-31-07 10:32 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Yes, the "right call" was made. They better not act like that here. |
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Jcrowley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-31-07 11:04 PM Response to Reply #10 |
19. Control is important |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #19 |
107. good post - on target (n/t) |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 12:40 AM Response to Reply #9 |
35. yeah. I hear men aren't going into teaching because of the idea |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 12:40 AM Response to Reply #35 |
95. true |
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mopinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 05:31 PM Response to Reply #9 |
52. you sure do not know that. |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 07:04 PM Response to Reply #52 |
70. Good points. And parent bashing IS an olymic sport sometimes |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 06:22 PM Response to Reply #9 |
61. I saw the parents interviewed on TV |
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tblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-31-07 10:37 PM Response to Original message |
11. So corporal punishment is illegal but handcuffing and booking kindergartners is cool |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-31-07 10:44 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Or Martin Lee Anderson, age 14, beaten to death by boot camp guard. |
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Jcrowley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-31-07 10:54 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. "They've" always been there |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 12:37 AM Response to Reply #11 |
93. I heard that DA on the radio |
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kath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-31-07 10:42 PM Response to Original message |
12. Gee, they're both black! What a surprise! |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-31-07 11:50 PM Response to Reply #12 |
27. Unfortunately.... |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 09:02 PM Response to Reply #27 |
76. To some degree?? Imagine that same scene with a white girl and a black cop |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 06:23 PM Response to Reply #12 |
62. I honestly believe that is a big part of it |
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tblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 06:27 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. Indisputably |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-31-07 11:28 PM Response to Original message |
23. This appears to be a mug shot of Desre. |
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tblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 06:28 PM Response to Reply #23 |
64. Give me a frickin break. Land of the 'free'???? |
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Tsiyu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-31-07 11:57 PM Response to Original message |
28. Thank you for this post |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 12:10 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. If you cultivate, train, and pay good teachers, treat them with respect... |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 12:34 AM Response to Reply #29 |
32. There are no supports for teachers anymore. You have a classroom |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 12:36 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. I taught at one of the worst schools in town my last few years. |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 12:42 AM Response to Reply #33 |
36. I'm glad for you. Its truly hard. I do recall in the news lately two cases of kids trying |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 12:51 AM Response to Reply #36 |
37. I doubt a 5 or 6 year old would try to kill a teacher. |
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mopinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 05:28 PM Response to Reply #36 |
50. we had a case in chicago |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 05:42 PM Response to Reply #50 |
55. That is a totally unfair post. You mischaracterize what I am saying. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 06:03 PM Response to Reply #50 |
58. "I don't remember the details exactly" |
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mopinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 06:20 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. oh please. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 06:35 PM Response to Reply #60 |
65. Implement a behavioral plan |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 06:49 PM Response to Reply #60 |
67. this isn't about hating society. this is about expecting teachers to |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 12:41 AM Response to Reply #67 |
96. What is your district |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 12:46 AM Response to Reply #96 |
100. our district is like any other, a fucked up beaurocracy that is |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 01:13 AM Response to Reply #100 |
101. Are your teachers in a Union? |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 01:17 AM Response to Reply #101 |
102. we are. I was president and secretary of my union local and |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 02:08 PM Response to Reply #102 |
119. That sounds like the frustration |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 02:28 AM Response to Reply #32 |
38. When they were in controlled rooms |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 06:52 PM Response to Reply #38 |
68. they don't need this training. these kids need to be removed. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 07:08 PM Response to Reply #68 |
72. But you are |
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mopinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 08:39 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. i will give you that point- she should have gone to the hospital. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 08:50 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. "a variety of levels" |
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mopinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 10:15 PM Response to Reply #75 |
77. i'm in chicago |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 10:35 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. big city - small town |
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mopinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 10:42 AM Response to Reply #78 |
104. oh, the programs are there |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 01:47 PM Response to Reply #104 |
112. So the kids that are a threat |
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mopinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 01:58 PM Response to Reply #112 |
113. pampering- a big fat YUP to that. |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 12:41 AM Response to Reply #73 |
97. its hell with mentally ill kids. that is why I have always stuck my |
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mopinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 10:46 AM Response to Reply #97 |
105. luckily, i live in a big city. |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 11:29 AM Response to Reply #105 |
109. I am so glad to hear it. Its what I hope for every kid I have, that they |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 12:26 AM Response to Reply #72 |
91. Who cares what you feel about us. None of us who do this day in |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 01:59 PM Response to Reply #91 |
114. What a crock |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 12:44 AM Response to Reply #68 |
98. Are you suggesting euthenasia? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 12:22 AM Response to Original message |
30. You can do a lot with kindness. |
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Nevernose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 10:56 PM Response to Reply #30 |
81. Have you tried being NICE? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 11:27 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. Love your post.... |
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Nevernose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 12:07 AM Response to Reply #82 |
84. Teaching is the only job I've ever LOVED |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 01:44 PM Response to Original message |
41. This thread deserves more the two recs it has. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 02:11 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Thanks, I was surprised arresting 5 year olds was controversial. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 02:26 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. There will always be a few. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 04:42 PM Response to Original message |
45. Notice the difference in the two articles about bringing charges... |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 04:49 PM Response to Original message |
46. That's right.. There's a bunch of |
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MLFerrell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 05:21 PM Response to Original message |
47. AGAIN?! |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 05:29 PM Response to Reply #47 |
51. Read the thread....they have. |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 05:37 PM Response to Original message |
53. K&R...and... |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 05:39 PM Response to Original message |
54. Years ago, one of my 5 year old students tried to stab me |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 06:03 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. I went to school, as a child, for two years in Japan.... |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 10:48 PM Response to Reply #57 |
80. Never Spank Children |
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Bronyraurus (871 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 12:21 AM Response to Reply #80 |
88. Ha! |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 12:38 AM Response to Reply #88 |
94. "We" as our species |
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Bronyraurus (871 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 12:45 AM Response to Reply #94 |
99. I'm not sure if kids endure anything |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 01:18 AM Response to Reply #99 |
103. Don't be too sure |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #99 |
106. Don't be inane |
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Bronyraurus (871 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 01:15 PM Response to Reply #106 |
111. This fascist doesn't recognize the ignore function. |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 11:27 AM Response to Reply #99 |
108. Here Smart-One |
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Bronyraurus (871 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 01:14 PM Response to Reply #108 |
110. Who is defending child abuse? |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 06:00 PM Response to Original message |
56. Send these pictures out to the world the US wants to POLICE! |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 07:07 PM Response to Original message |
71. The malevolence shown toward children and parents in this society |
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mopinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 08:44 PM Response to Reply #71 |
74. you got that. feed the children, |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 10:36 PM Response to Original message |
79. When they're black. |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-01-07 11:50 PM Response to Original message |
83. Unfuckingbelievable. |
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Done (680 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 02:02 PM Response to Original message |
115. Wheeewww! I can sleep safe tonight nt |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 02:17 PM Response to Original message |
120. Could someone with a subscription to Harpers tell me if it is the same girl? |
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