Iraqi militias gluing anuses of gay men and inducing diarrhea to cause death.

[babylonsister]

OMG, this is so horrid. :cry:

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/21/iraq-militias-glue/


Iraqi militias gluing anuses of gay men and inducing diarrhea to cause death.


Relying on an International Gay and Lesbian Human Rights Commission translation of a recent Al Arabiya story, the blog Towleroad reports that Iraqi militias have been engaging in some particularly brutal tactics toward gay men in Iraq:

"A prominent Iraqi human rights activist says that Iraqi militia have deployed a painful form of torture against homosexuals by closing their anuses using 'Iranian gum.' ...Yina Mohammad told Alarabiya.net that, 'Iraqi militias have deployed an unprecedented form of torture against homosexuals by using a very strong glue that will close their anus.' According to her, the new substance 'is known as the American hum, which is an Iranian-manufactured glue that if applied to the skin, sticks to it and can only be removed by surgery. After they glue the anuses of homosexuals, they give them a drink that causes diarrhea. Since the anus is closed, the diarrhea causes death. Videos of this form of torture are being distributed on mobile cellphones in Iraq.'"

The Iraqi defense ministry reported earlier this month that six gay men were shot dead in a Shia-controlled part of Baghadad. "Two of the bodies, found on Thursday, had pieces of paper attached on which was written the word 'Pervert.'" According to the source in the Al Arabiya article, "for the past 3 weeks a crackdown on homosexuals has been going on based on a religious decree that demands their death; dozens have been targeted." The persecution "is not confined to the Shiite clerics," the source said. "Some Sunni leaders have also declared the death penalty for sodomy on satellite channels."

[stray cat]

1. hopefully not true

[babylonsister]

3. I doubt a human rights commission would be lying. nt

[TheWraith]

40. It's not their reporting, though.

They're just translating something that Al Arabia reported, sourced to this one particular activist--and we don't know how reliable that is or how much of it might be based on rumor.

[ohheckyeah]

30. It would be a much more comfortable

world for all of us if we could just dismiss atrocities as "hopefully not true."

Do the American troops not have any control over the Iraqi militia? I'm not being snarky, I really don't know.

[Hannah Bell]

44. in some cases they *are* the militia.

[Hannah Bell]

45. dupe

[timtom]

2. This just made me weep.

I'm done. I can't take any more inhumanity. I'm still weeping, and I'm a big strapping straight male.

[glitch]

4. True evil, at its very core. More monsters unleashed.

The Sleep of Reason Produces Monsters - Francisco Goya

Thank you Bush/Cheney et al and everyone who enabled them.

[spanone]

5. sounds like a cheney invention

[ben_jenne]

9. Cheney invented Islam? He truly is evil.

[spanone]

10. no, superglue

[uppityperson]

20. Whoooosh

That is the sound of entirely missing the point.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

22. where in islam does this commandment exist?

[aquart]

6. May koro suck their dicks into their guts.

[Fearless]

7. I like to think that I'm well adjusted...

That there are few things in life that throw me for a loop or truly enlighten or disturb me. I was wrong. This is the most utterly disgusting display of human behavior that I have ever had the displeasure of reading. And, I am fairly certain that this planet would be much better off when we're gone. To both the perpetrators of this heinous act and the world leaders who have ALL looked the other way, I have nothing more to say to you. This is inexcusable, unconscionable, and intolerable. Fuck you all.

[Merlot]

8. Yes, it's horrible. But do I need to read about it? No

Perhaps your headline should not be so graphic. I care about the torture issue, but that doesn't mean I need to know about hte specifics.

[babylonsister]

11. Then don't read it. And it's not 'my' headline, it's Think Progress'.

And what's with DUers trying to censor news? This is the third gripe I've heard encouraging censorship in two days.

[Fearless]

12. There is no need to shroud the truth.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

21. a lot of people here argue that gay people have faced no real punishment

and that we are committing acts of poutrage. so i think the OP should read as is.

[TexasObserver]

26. If you consider the headline too offensive, you should stop reading a board that allows such terms.

[ohheckyeah]

29. Reminds me of

Barbara Bush not wanting to disturb her beautiful mind.

[mitchtv]

35. If the full truth is not put up front

Our beloved fellow DU'rs will be saying it didn't happen. Gruesome yes, necessary yes

[Bluebear]

51. Sorry about your beautiful mind. Many here call gays full of "poutrage"

and that real discrimination, torture and murders are overexaggerated.

[MindPilot]

13. there are no words...

:puke::cry::banghead::scared::grr::nuke:

[AndyTiedye]

14. The Real Perverts are the Ones Doing the Torturing and Killing

[Echo In Light]

18. Wanna bet that their pricks are HARD as they commit this atrocity?

[Dogmudgeon]

15. A new technology but an old torture

Superglue is not necessary. Closing up the rectum as a lethal punishment -- using lower-tech glues, resins, plugs, and sewing -- goes back quite some time.

Some of the forms of torture that we humans have invented are beyond belief.

--d!

[MindPilot]

16. Have you even seen that touring exhibit of the torture devices?

Some of the displays included the drawings, plans and instruction manuals. I couldn't then and still can't get my head around the mind that would not only conceive such a thing, but then actually go do it.

The other thing that was very notable is how many of the devices and techniques were used to ensure belief in the correct deity.

[Dogmudgeon]

19. No, I didn't know there was one

People seem to have had a different mindset when it came to pain. Women routinely died horribly in labor, prisoners were often tortured daily for years, infanticide and child rape was universal, surgery was performed without anesthetic (there was actually a fairly effective anesthetic available, called dwale, but it was little used), and cruelty in daily life was routine.

You may also want to consider the writings of Alice Miller and Lloyd De Mause on abusive child-raising practices, particularly in Central and Eastern Europe in the 19th and early 20th Centuries. Philippe Aries' Centuries of Childhood is also valuable; it is one of the foundations of DeMause's work in what he terms "psychohistory".

Michel Foucault's major work, Discipline and Punish, is an excellent anthropological/philosophical work on punishment and torture; he also discusses the development of childhood as an institution.

We live in a kinder age than we are accustomed to thinking. We at least do not inflict pain for our emotional satisfaction -- not routinely, anyway.

--d!

[csziggy]

33. I haven't even heard of that exhibit - I don't really understand wanting to gawk at that

The same for a show that has been on the History Channel - Surviving History http://www.history.com/minisites/surviving-history

It is basically a history of torture and torture devices. I just do not understand the fascination with knowing the minutiae of something that perverted.

I DO want to know when the perversion is happening, especially when it is being done in the name of my country or by people we were supposed to be "liberating" and teaching to be "more like us." If the perversion of the kind of torture described in the OP is being done by people we put in power, I am appalled and disgusted even more than I have been by the aholes who were in charge of the invasion of Iraq.

[backscatter712]

28. Yeah, this seems to be a variation on the theme of the Pear of Anguish.

Sick and twisted beyond belief.

[anonymous171]

17. Holy fucking shit.

:wow:

[KamaAina]

23. Ah, the sound of freedom on the march!

:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:

[mitchtv]

24. How long will it be before a certain DU'r steps foward

to deny this?/ My Guess? not long

[QC]

27. I can't believe that it's taken him this long.

Of course, being DU's supreme arbiter of all things homosexual does take a lot of time, you know.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

32. arbiter of all things and everything.

[QC]

41. I certainly hope it's ok for people to discuss this topic.

Hold me--I'm scared!

[TheBigotBasher]

25. K & R

The worst thing is that we are paying for this. British and American troops have been used to pay these people, train them and arm them in order to stop the bombings. So much for a better Iraq.

[barbtries]

31. it is so horrid

:cry:

why am i still surprised to learn of man's inhumanity to man?

[Fire1]

34. That's some sick shit.

[readmoreoften]

I hope they don't give the CIA any ideas.

Or our warlord friends in Afghanistan.

[readmoreoften]

36. .

[guitar man]

37. surely this can't be happening

I mean, c'mon, Saddam was the bad guy, the torturer in Iraq. We kicked him out and he's dead now, I don't see any way it could be possible that this is happening there...WE SPREAD FREEDOM IN IRAQ!!! DAMN LIBERAL MEDIA AND THEIR LIES!!! :sarcasm:

I feel so bad for the people this is happening to...how can humans do this to each other? :cry:

[jpak]

38. From a medical perspective - is this physiologically possible?

I do not doubt there is anti-gay violence in Iraq, but this smells like "Urban Legend"...

[readmoreoften]

42. I don't think IGLHRC spreads urban legends. /nt

[FLAprogressive]

39. thank goodness our president has stepped up to condemn.....*screeeech*

oh wait.

[BreweryYardRat]

43. Revolting.

Find the people responsible for this (if "people" is even an applicable term for them anymore), try them, and execute them. Also, hunt down the clerics who've been advocating this (even if they're outside of Iraq) and execute them as well.

[Jkid]

46. How do these homophobic pigs sleep at night?!

n/t

[Withywindle]

47. All too well, I'm afraid.

They think what they're doing is RIGHT. True, hopeless, lightless, from-the-abyss evil always does.


:puke:

[Duncan Grant]

48. kick

:kick:

[shadowknows69]

49. There is just no end to humanity's cruelty to itself is there?

Stories like these make me wish the Dolphins ruled the earth and we were pets.

[Duncan Grant]

50. kick

:kick:

[krispos42]

52. That is absolutely disgusting.

And somewhere in a bunker someplace, Darth Cheney is reading this and taking notes.


Son of a bitch.

[Ignis]

53. Hearts and Minds, baby...

That's what we're winning. :cry: