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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 03:04 PM Original message |
Ten Years After Columbine, It's Easier to Bear Arms |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 03:08 PM Response to Original message |
1. It has only been 10 yrs, seems like it's been longer. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 03:09 PM Response to Original message |
2. Good to reflect back on this horrible event -- and I think there is much |
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Demobrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 03:25 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Everyone who wants one already does. |
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doctor jazz (474 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 03:49 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. I have guns and I'm gay. Why don't you just go ahead and call me a gun nut faggot? |
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damntexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 04:07 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. You have guns, but are you a gunnut? |
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doctor jazz (474 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 04:09 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. I support concealed carrying by anyone of legal age with a clean criminal record |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 11:06 PM Response to Reply #12 |
86. Join a militia --- ??? |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 04:15 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. I DO, have a CCW, and I do carry on a collage campus...... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 11:07 PM Response to Reply #14 |
87. Deleted message |
virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-21-09 01:21 AM Response to Reply #87 |
111. Coward? NO, a realist, |
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Demobrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 05:17 PM Response to Reply #8 |
28. What does being a gun nut have to do with sexual orientation? |
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doctor jazz (474 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 07:26 PM Response to Reply #28 |
61. What indeed. Anyone who's enough of an ignorant bigot to call someone a faggot will stoop to |
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Demobrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 08:15 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. Last I heard one was a choice. |
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doctor jazz (474 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 09:20 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. So if I choose to exercise my Second Amendment rights, I deserve the pejorative "gun nut" |
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Demobrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 10:23 PM Response to Reply #65 |
72. The point of my first post. |
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doctor jazz (474 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 10:32 PM Response to Reply #72 |
75. I got my first gun at age 7 in 1949. I taught marksmanship in 2 different police departments |
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Demobrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 10:48 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. Thousands of innocent victims a year |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 11:11 PM Response to Reply #76 |
89. The poster's too self-absorbed to care about anything like that |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 11:32 PM Response to Reply #89 |
98. If you are so concerned start a movement to Amend the Constitution. |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 11:53 PM Response to Reply #76 |
155. Many thousands of people who used a firearm for legal self defense... |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 10:58 PM Response to Reply #61 |
149. Oh bullshit |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 10:28 PM Response to Reply #6 |
73. You really want to encourage your child to bring a gun to school . . ? |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 03:11 PM Response to Original message |
3. Even Dems on this board seem proud of stockpiling weapons and ammo. |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 03:21 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Not me. I'm not afraid of boogeymen. I suppose when I retire I might get |
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damntexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 04:44 PM Response to Reply #3 |
19. But that's not the issue. Some may have reason to 'stockpile.' |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 04:52 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Well, I've been a Dem activist for decades and it's only recently... |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 05:09 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. All he is doing is selling more guns.. |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 05:15 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Where in the Bill of Rights does it say every American gets to own assault weapons?? |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 05:18 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Define "Assault Weapons" first.....NT |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 05:19 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Yeah, right - NOWHERE! You've been listening to NRA propaganda too long. |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 05:23 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. LOL!! |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 05:33 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Nice try. I went to the same school as the prez: |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 05:39 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. No one is perfect.... |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 05:43 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Don't think you'd find many real Dems who champion Wayne LaPierre... |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 05:57 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Shows how much you know.. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 06:01 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Deleted message |
virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 06:05 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. Actullly it has more than you know.. |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 06:14 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. While you're worshipping assholes like Wayne LaPierre, I'll trust... |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 06:18 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. What exactly do you want them to ban?!?! |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 06:26 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. Whatever they decide it takes to help protect the police in cities like Philly... |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 06:33 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Who's a "Gun Clinger"?? |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 06:36 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. I'll take the intentional idiocy as awareness that you've got nothing. See ya :) |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 06:38 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Must be hard, being on the loosing team |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 10:15 PM Response to Reply #46 |
71. How are your first two sentences different from... |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-21-09 12:55 AM Response to Reply #46 |
105. Assault weapons have a negligible use in crime, so you will have to set your sights higher to achiev... |
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Iktomiwicasa (942 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 06:39 PM Response to Reply #33 |
52. "They also support making the expired federal Assault Weapons Ban permanent." |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 06:43 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. Read on down.. |
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solinvictus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 09:51 PM Response to Reply #33 |
68. Whoopdee shit... |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-21-09 12:52 AM Response to Reply #33 |
104. Which school? You are aware that there was a rifle range at his high school |
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jmg257 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 06:24 PM Response to Reply #27 |
45. In the 2nd amendment. In the Constitution, it is in Article 1, Section 8. |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 06:34 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. You're late to the scene: the correct answer is NOWHERE... |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 06:40 PM Response to Reply #48 |
53. The Bill of Rights...Does not mention Abortion... |
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jmg257 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 06:40 PM Response to Reply #48 |
54. Never too late to teach...so I provided the correct answers. Again, they are covered under 'arms'. |
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Iktomiwicasa (942 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 06:42 PM Response to Reply #48 |
55. But you still haven't |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 06:46 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. She did... |
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Iktomiwicasa (942 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 08:00 PM Response to Reply #57 |
63. Well, since I don't live in a "city like Philly" |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 12:01 AM Response to Reply #48 |
156. And the First Amendment doesn't mention TV or computers.(n/t) |
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quiller4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 01:28 AM Response to Reply #48 |
159. Bill of Rights mentions "arms" that covers it. n/t |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 11:14 PM Response to Reply #45 |
91. So you're also entitled to an AK47 or any other military weapon???? |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 10:10 PM Response to Reply #27 |
70. Legal unless otherwise stated |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 10:05 PM Response to Reply #21 |
69. If Rendell is saying that, he might as well link color TV to the homicide rate |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 10:31 PM Response to Reply #21 |
74. Right . . . and if you can have a gun of any kind, why not a bunker buster . . . |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-21-09 12:37 PM Response to Reply #74 |
122. Pretty soon the NRA will claim that 2nd Amendment rights include tanks & fighter planes! |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-21-09 12:50 AM Response to Reply #21 |
103. Rendell is flake and an anti gun bigot...how many of those officers were killed by |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 11:09 PM Response to Reply #3 |
88. I see it as the GOP/NRA . . . and their message and support seems to come . . . |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 03:12 PM Response to Original message |
4. And you can download that awful Marilyn Manson from the interweb these days. |
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No More Bushbots (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 03:47 PM Response to Original message |
7. A fine demonstration of Right Wing tactics |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 03:56 PM Response to Original message |
9. "the tragedy that left 13 people dead "??? CORRECTION: it left FIFTEEN dead. |
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Rebubula (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 05:06 PM Response to Reply #9 |
25. If you are referring.... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 11:12 PM Response to Reply #25 |
90. There are many questions about the two who did the killings . . . |
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damntexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 04:05 PM Response to Original message |
10. On campuses in Texas, we're fighting the idiotic campus-concealed-carry bill. |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 04:26 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. You do realize.. |
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damntexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 04:51 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. There are many students over age 21 on campuses, particularly mine. |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 04:59 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. The vast majority of, CCW holders take it extremly serious |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 10:56 PM Response to Reply #23 |
78. Guns were removed from society because they were more of a threat . . . |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-21-09 12:57 AM Response to Reply #78 |
107. Not to society, but the ruling class. Read up omn it world wide |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-21-09 04:57 PM Response to Reply #107 |
128. The ruling class armed a Confederate Army to keep slavery going for them - !!! |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 10:55 PM Response to Reply #20 |
77. And what could suit the GOP "know-nothings" more than totally destroying education this way-??? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 11:05 PM Response to Reply #17 |
84. I'm sure guns will make rape on campus easier ... !!! |
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Geek_Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 04:13 PM Response to Original message |
13. Allowing guns on campus just sounds like a really bad idea to me |
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Caliman73 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 06:01 PM Response to Reply #13 |
40. So then you would support legislation that made it illegal to have those firearms in your home? |
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doc03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
15. If the teachers would have been packin |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 04:26 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Teachers trained to blow away kids. |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 04:27 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Their NOT KIDS... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 11:24 PM Response to Reply #18 |
94. The answer to that violence isn't more violence by adding guns . .. |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-21-09 02:02 AM Response to Reply #94 |
115. Than why do we send the police in .... |
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Sanctified (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 05:35 PM Response to Reply #16 |
34. If you don't trust a teacher with a gun how could you possibly trust them with a child? n/t |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 06:01 PM Response to Reply #34 |
41. Anti-gun people don't trust anyone with a gun. Besides the police. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 11:03 PM Response to Reply #41 |
83. Frankly, IMO, most people would be happier if we began to reverse the whole belief-in-guns myth . . |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-21-09 01:03 AM Response to Reply #83 |
108. Far from it. The weak would be victimized at an even higher rate |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-21-09 04:50 PM Response to Reply #108 |
125. The "weaker" are being "out-gunned" now . . . murder victims and police officers killed - !!! |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-21-09 11:14 PM Response to Reply #125 |
130. The Police can legaly carry machine guns.... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-21-09 11:19 PM Response to Reply #130 |
131. See that's just where sanity actually stops most of us . . . |
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damntexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 04:52 PM Response to Reply #15 |
22. No, more likely would have been wounded and killed. |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 05:03 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Lots of teachers are ex military.... |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 07:04 PM Response to Reply #24 |
59. Yeah, I remember my teacher. Mr. Rambo, I think he was called. |
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doctor jazz (474 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 07:29 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. Congratulations, you have now added puerile humor to your repertoire of lying. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-21-09 04:51 PM Response to Reply #59 |
126. I had a nun we used to call "Rambo" . . . !!! |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 11:01 PM Response to Reply #24 |
82. Who are these people who intend to commit mass murder? |
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doc03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 06:57 PM Response to Reply #22 |
58. You saying teachers can't be trained? If you take |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 07:08 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. How about we just wrap the teachers in TNT like in a Road Runner cartoon. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 10:57 PM Response to Reply #15 |
79. Or the "packin" teachers would be dead, as well now . . . |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 12:20 AM Response to Reply #79 |
157. Remember the teacher who was the hero of the Virginia Tech massace?... |
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FunkyLeprechaun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 12:36 AM Response to Reply #157 |
161. How do you suppose that? |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
32. Very, very sad... |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 06:00 PM Response to Reply #32 |
38. Actually, that is good sense.. |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 06:36 PM Response to Original message |
49. and people who think that's going to change anytime soon are just goofy. |
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chrisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 09:30 PM Response to Original message |
66. I'm very pro-2nd amendment, pro-guns, and... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 10:59 PM Response to Reply #66 |
80. If the fascist GOP/NRA continue on to these insane ideas . . . |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 11:06 PM Response to Reply #66 |
85. Amazing how often the word "draconian" is applied |
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beevul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-21-09 04:55 PM Response to Reply #85 |
127. Translation |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 09:43 PM Response to Original message |
67. and yet their were fewer gun homicides in 2007 than in 1999. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 11:00 PM Response to Reply #67 |
81. Except in the GOP's Iraq and Afghanistan . . .!!! |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 11:20 PM Response to Reply #81 |
93. Because that's what we are talking about right. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 11:26 PM Response to Reply #93 |
95. What we're talking about is the GOP/NRA gun-myths . .. and who profits from fearmongering and |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 11:29 PM Response to Reply #95 |
96. Then why did you bring up Iraq and Afghanistan? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 11:42 PM Response to Reply #96 |
99. Are we using bows and arrows in Afghanistan and Iraq? |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 11:44 PM Response to Reply #99 |
100. I'm sorry I thought you were smart enough to know we were talking about the US. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-21-09 12:04 AM Response to Reply #100 |
101. I'm smart enough to understand that violence is all connected . . . |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-21-09 12:22 AM Response to Reply #101 |
102. Then how is it possible that gun murders in the US were lower in 2007 than 1999? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-21-09 01:48 AM Response to Reply #102 |
113. And what are you using . . . GOP/NRA statistics . . . |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-21-09 11:34 AM Response to Reply #113 |
117. The DOJ and the FBI actually. |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-21-09 11:44 AM Response to Reply #117 |
118. Doh!! |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-21-09 12:33 PM Response to Reply #117 |
120. The FBI statistics suggest gun violence has increased --- !!! |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-21-09 02:35 PM Response to Reply #120 |
123. A link to those figures they are dramatically different from the FBI and DOJ? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-21-09 03:06 PM Response to Reply #123 |
124. They are on the LINK you provided . . . on the page you supplied --- !!!???? |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-21-09 11:22 PM Response to Reply #124 |
132. You must have screwed up when you pasted then because it looks like you have total homicides listed. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 09:25 PM Response to Reply #132 |
133. Percentage of Murders, Robbers & Assaults committed with firearms INCREASED ... per FBI . . . |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 09:40 PM Response to Reply #133 |
134. Serious violent crime levels declined since 1993. DOJ |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 10:01 PM Response to Reply #134 |
137. Oh, now you want to use different statistics . . . ??? |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 10:29 PM Response to Reply #137 |
144. It was in response to your post, duh. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 10:56 PM Response to Reply #144 |
146. Yes, I asked you what statistics you were basing your claims on . . . you gave an FBI link --!! |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 11:16 PM Response to Reply #146 |
152. Yes a link to the FBI CIUS Home Page. All of the information that I have used are in the reports... |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 09:41 PM Response to Reply #133 |
135. Nonfatal firearm-related crime has plummeted since 1993, before increasing in 2005. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 10:02 PM Response to Reply #135 |
138. Get back to the original statistics you supplied .. . FBI statistics . . . |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 10:28 PM Response to Reply #138 |
143. I supplied the DOJ links also. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 10:57 PM Response to Reply #143 |
147. Now you are giving DOJ links . . . originally you gave FBI link . .. |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 11:19 PM Response to Reply #147 |
154. I gave both the DOJ and FBI links because the 1997 and 1999 data is not in the FBIs 2007 report. |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 09:43 PM Response to Reply #133 |
136. My statement is still correct fewer gun homicides in 2007 than 1999 and 1997. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 10:02 PM Response to Reply #136 |
139. Go back to your original FBI statistics and show us where it says that ...??? |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 10:28 PM Response to Reply #139 |
142. Here you go. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 10:58 PM Response to Reply #142 |
148. You're not using the same FBI statistics you originally supplied . . |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 11:17 PM Response to Reply #148 |
153. Yes I am, I provided the main FBI CIUS page in the first link it has no statistics on it. |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-21-09 08:19 PM Response to Reply #120 |
129. You'll notice your numbers are over the DOJ numbers by about 5,000 per year. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 10:03 PM Response to Reply #129 |
140. My numbers . . .??? These are the statistics you supplied . . .FBI reports --- !!! |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 10:30 PM Response to Reply #140 |
145. Which FBI reports specifically? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 11:01 PM Response to Reply #145 |
150. The links YOU supplied in your post #117 . . here . . . |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 11:12 PM Response to Reply #150 |
151. There are no reports on that page, it is the CIUS home page. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 10:57 PM Response to Reply #150 |
160. Here's your post with the links . . . amazing that you can't see them?????? |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-21-09 01:06 AM Response to Reply #101 |
109. Not even close to true...and weapons are not always firearms and almost never so called assault |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-21-09 01:46 AM Response to Reply #109 |
112. You mean we can have wars and Drug Wars with bows and arrows? |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-21-09 01:58 AM Response to Reply #112 |
114. That was true historically...and may be again if the anti gun bigots are not stopped hard |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-21-09 12:35 PM Response to Reply #114 |
121. Right . . . the Drug War will commence with bows and arrows . . .!!! |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 11:19 PM Response to Original message |
92. Ten Years After Columbine and mass shootings are now commonplace |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 11:30 PM Response to Reply #92 |
97. and yet their were fewer gun homicides in 2007 than in 1999. |
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The Bakery Wagon (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-21-09 12:56 AM Response to Original message |
106. All these posts and not a mention of the drugs that the Columbine shooters, and most others,... |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-21-09 11:48 AM Response to Reply #106 |
119. Boy this thread is bringing out all kinds of kooks |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 10:07 PM Response to Reply #106 |
141. Great point . . . PLUS evidently "bomb making" had been reported ... |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-21-09 01:10 AM Response to Original message |
110. The title and the rest of the article are basically a croc |
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Norrin Radd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-21-09 02:24 AM Response to Original message |
116. "Guns are for amateurs." - Brock Sampson |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 12:27 AM Response to Reply #116 |
158. You mean this Brock Sampson... |
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