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laststeamtrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 03:00 PM
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Limbaugh’s Proof That Torture Works: McCain Was ‘Broken By The North Vietnamese’
Limbaugh’s Proof That Torture Works: McCain Was ‘Broken By The North Vietnamese’

On his radio show yesterday, Rush Limbaugh responded to the Obama administration’s release of four of the OLC torture memos with a full-throated defense of of torture and its effectiveness for gathering useful intelligence. As evidence of the effectiveness of torture, Limbaugh noted that — in his speech to the Republican National Convention last summer — Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) said the North Vietnamese “broke” him while he was a POW. Limbaugh suggested that in saying the North Vietnamese “broke” him, McCain was saying that torture worked:

LIMBAUGH: The idea that torture doesn’t work– that’s been put out from John McCain on down– You know, for the longest time McCain said torture doesn’t work then he admitted in his acceptance speech at the Republican National Convention last summer that he was broken by North Vietnamese. So what are we to think here? ... http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/18/limbaugh-mccain-torture/

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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 03:03 PM
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1. So he's for torture and says it doesn't work?
If McCain broke, what did the enemy find out?

Okay, all that was 40 years ago, but still...
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 03:09 PM
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6. I loved Q
he was such a jerk :)
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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 03:11 PM
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7. do a search on "Songbird McCain"
but be prepared to do a lot of sorting of fact from fiction.

Hard to say what exactly is true, but it's hard to imagine that there are so many detailed accusations out there without some truth buried inside.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 03:07 PM
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2. Just because it ruins you emotionally doesn't mean it works.
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 03:07 PM
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3. What a dumb fuck
he is. :eyes:
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 03:09 PM
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4. What are you to think Rush?
Nothing, Why start now you bloviated junkie fuck.
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CBR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 03:09 PM
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5. This is sick. nt
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 03:11 PM
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8. What would Limbaugh know about war?
He's been a coward all his life.
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luvspeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 03:20 PM
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11. the only war Limbaugh fights...
Is with the Oxy bottle and staying away from little boys.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 03:33 PM
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15. He lost on both fronts.
Edited on Sat Apr-18-09 03:35 PM by TheCowsCameHome
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Stellabella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 03:29 PM
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14. Yeah, Mr. Anal Cyst blows out of both ends of his body.
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sixmile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 03:13 PM
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9. What sort of information did McCain reveal?
Hardly anything that won the war for the Vietcong.


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greenbird Donating Member (432 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 03:16 PM
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10. Whether it works or not is beside the point, foghorn
It's illegal. Idiot.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 03:27 PM
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12. McCain said that he gave the North Vietnamese the names
of the Green Bay Packers offensive linemen when asked to name the members of his squadron.

Yeah, Rush torture works if you want FALSE information.

:eyes:

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08194/896622-66.stm
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Mr. Ected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 03:28 PM
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13. Funny He Didn't Mention This DURING the Campaign
Had it been Kerry instead of McCain and 2004 instead of 2008, he would have emasculated Kerry for singing.

Most people understand that Rush is full of shit.

The others carry signs and absorb ridicule at tea parties.
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tomreedtoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 04:05 PM
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16. In the campaign he was just "Comedian" Rush Limbaugh.
Now he's the intellectual head of the Republican party. Or, rather, one of the heads.

See, the Republicans are like Hydra. Not the mythological beast, but the enemies of Nick Fury, Agent of SHIELD, over at Marvel Comics. It was seen as a perfection of Nazi ideology wedded to technological superiority, but always with that severe mind control that fanatics always enjoy.



Remember their oath? "Hail HYDRA! Immortal HYDRA! We shall never be destroyed! Cut off one limb and two more shall take its place! We serve the Supreme Hydra, as the world shall soon serve us!"

Glenn Beck couldn't say it any better.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 04:12 PM
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17. but wait ... didn't McCain claim someone else broke, for favors from the North Vietnamese?
and that, McCain only "broke" to get medical attention? and that anybody who ever ever EVER suggested that McCain "broke" was a commie pinko bastard lefty Democrat?
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 04:22 PM
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18. I don't think anyone would argue that torture doesn't 'BREAK' people-
the argument some try to use to justify torturing people is that doing so, can help stop future acts of senseless violence-

Kind of an oxymoron if you ask me.

:shrug:
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 04:28 PM
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19. Rush probably needs to experience torture firsthand to understand.
Edited on Sat Apr-18-09 04:29 PM by liberalmuse
Maybe he would have a more enlightened opinion on whether or not you give good information while being tortured. Maybe we could promise immunity to those in the CIA who are willing to do a vigorous job of working Rush over, Bush textbook style. Scratch that. NO IMMUNITY FOR TORTURERS! Anyway, it would be nice to find out what he was doing in the Dominican Republic with a suitcase full of Viagra.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 04:33 PM
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20. McPOW denounced America when tortured, and then went on to run for
President. What an idiot. Does limpballs think McPOW meant it when he denounced America?
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 04:50 PM
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21. I'm not so sure that the reason he "broke" was torture...
I saw the video of McCain in the hospital answering questions to a reporter. His legs were in casts, due to his attempt to eject from his plane. So, how long did he really hold out?
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