Re: Susan Boyle's appearance

[JanMichael]

Try not to be shallow in the coming weeks, eh?

[madeline_con]

1. I'm just saying she should thin out her eyebrows.

Otherwise, she's great. I wish her happiness and long life.

[JanMichael]

2. Why should she?

?

[NYCGirl]

4. Because the brows frame the upper part of the face, and it would be preferable

to have the emphasis on her eyes and not her brows. Eyes are expressive —eyebrows are not.

Edited to add: Makeup, etc. is used for a reason, you know.

[JanMichael]

7. really. Brooke Shields did just fine with heavy brows

interesting you should think that. I disagree.

Youtube some old John Belushi stuff too.

[NYCGirl]

8. Brooke Shields had other stuff going for her, too. And Ms. Boyle is not a

comedian.

Edited to add: If you think Brooke Shields' looks were unenhanced by makeup and eyebrow shaping, I have a bridge in Brooklyn I'd like to sell you.

[JanMichael]

10. Oh, was Brooke a comedian back then?

Look, I am not saying it's not going to happen, but reading DUers comments on her looks is disgusting.

[NYCGirl]

13. No, I never said she was. Did you ever see John Belishi's one film as a leading

man? Few did. It was a flop.

http://allmovie.com/work/continental-divide-10872/review

[lunatica]

9. Brook Shields also shapes her eyebrows. Even men do it more and more

It's no different than perming hair or having different hair styles throughout you life, or wearing the right underwear (like bras and spanx). Men shave or have moustaches or beards they trim. What's the difference?

[JanMichael]

12. What if she doesn't want to do all that?

Are you aware that bras and spandex crap have been linked to certain types of cancer?

[Berry Cool]

26. That is a myth.

Please, don't bring the :tinfoilhat: stuff here. Thank you.

[lunatica]

30. Brook Shields has decided for herself. She's a grown woman

If Boyle doesn't want to that's fine too. But you're trying to make it into some oppression thing. Do you comb your hair? Take a bath? shave? Then you're messing with nature.

[noamnety]

16. What does that even mean - the "right" underwear?

I'm locking my doors right now in case the underwear police are coming to bust me.

[madeline_con]

62. The right bra makes a lot of difference.

[noamnety]

70. Ugh.

I grew up with a nonstop supply of this kind of message.

I'm glad the circle I'm in now isn't like this.

[omega minimo]

18. Eyebrows are expressive.

[NYCGirl]

23. Yes, but eyes are the mirror to the soul. NT

[malaise]

41. I've been shaping my eyebrows since I was a teenager

My second sister had perfect eyebrows and we all wanted ours to look like hers. I stopped 'tweezing' the day I discovered wax. Susan Boyle must do what makes her comfortable.

[omega minimo]

44. There are different levels to the eyebrow thing. Yours is appreciated. Culture is another. Genes.

And in her case her eye/brows are affected by the oxygen deficiency too.

I'm with you, I hope she is given a chance to be who she wants to be.

She's sassy, I think she can handle the handlers :thumbsup: Maybe all those years of taking shit off of "perfect" arseholes will help.

[malaise]

51. Exactly

She knows what she wants - to sing. I wish her all the best.

[omega minimo]

60. LOL Great point.

:toast: Maybe she'll show that being differently abled is a powerful thing

[aquart]

66. You really think that's all she wants?

When all she has left to love her is her cat?

She doesn't just want to sing. She wants the singing to bring her love and admiration and respect and a warm welcome wherever she goes. And money would be nice.

And I do think it will now.

I know I want to know the exact date her first album is released.

[malaise]

73. True

She probably wants to sing for the queen.

Did you listen to her first recorded song on that Charity CD - Cry me a River?
I'll also buy her album.

[noamnety]

15. I'll answer that for you.

Because women have a social obligation to do their best to meet porn standards before inflicting themselves on the general public - whether they are singing, commuting to work, or walking to the store to pick up a sack of potatoes. It's their JOB, as women, to look available and desirable to men.

We have makeup for a reason, you know. (and there's a reason men aren't required to wear it at normal social functions)

ugh.

(Thank you for the attempt - I'm discouraged that your first response to the OP was what it was.)

[madeline_con]

17. A tweezed brow hardly meets "porn standards".

:eyes: :rofl:

[omega minimo]

20. And yet "porn standards" are the current mainstream fashion and have been for too long

Including the godawful cheesy 70's hookers outfits.

[Berry Cool]

27. And now we're expected to just laugh and get with it when told we need to "mow the lawn"

because if we don't, well then no one's going to want to have anything to do with us. Or at least not to do certain things to us.

We must meet the porn standard, or else. And the porn standard says: Be skinny and smooth and hairless as a boy. Only with big pneumatic boobs. But don't confine them in a bra. You'll get cancer. (:puke:)

[blogslut]

34. I think you're behind the times

This is the most popular adult model on the Internet:



And before you fweek out, she was 24 when that photo was taken. She's in her 30's now.

[omega minimo]

40. Fantastic. When will Girl Next Door fashion overtake the 70's Sleaze look?

:popcorn:

[blogslut]

45. If you want chronology

That seventies look was a derivation on the 1920's Flapper. In fact, many normal women embraced that look as freeing from the bound and starched look of the fifties and mod styles of the 60's.

[omega minimo]

52. I love the 20's fashions. It's Cheesy that's tiresome. Cheesy hair, cheesy fabrics, cheesy accessory

Not talking about unbound and unstarched but the cheesy kitsch that looks contrived for the male gaze, not what normal women would embrace on their own.

[blogslut]

55. I think women dress for other women

Men be damned.

[omega minimo]

58. They also buy what's in the stores and I'm ready for the cheesy fashions to move on to another trend

:thumbsup:

[blogslut]

64. You just have to look

I would suggest doing what the real trendsetters do - hit the Goodwill. Designers have been stealing from from thrift-store shopping artists and bohemians for ages.

[omega minimo]

69. Right. I'm talking about what the mallbound are buying and inflicting on us "real trendsetters"

:spray: :hi:

[blogslut]

72. Well, isn't that their problem?

There will always be people who are afraid to set their own style. The fashions may change but the followers will always be followers.

[omega minimo]

74. Let them follow something more interesting to look at. It's about time for a change.

[omega minimo]

37. "pneumatic" Maybe confine them to a

forklift :spray:

[blogslut]

21. Actually

It was men who first started wearing makeup and jewelry.

As for "porn standards" are you kidding?

[NYCGirl]

24. I don't know you or the folks you hang around with, but the men I know enjoy

being well-groomed, especially when they're around women. They shave every day for a reason, too.

[RadicalTexan]

25. High five

I agree. Then again, I am a proud radical feminist.

[Mari333]

32. I hope your post was sarcasm nt

[eShirl]

11. oh good grief

[Mari333]

29. you wouldnt say that if she was a he nt

[NYCGirl]

43. Ever heard of Mel Torme? One of the greatest voices (IMO the greatest)

the jazz world has ever known. But never a big star outside of records because of his looks.

[Mari333]

48. too bad people are so shallow and ignorant. nt

[NYCGirl]

50. Human nature. NT

[Mari333]

53. its human nature to shit in your pants

but we learn to use the toilet.

[NYCGirl]

54. It's human nature to be able to learn. That, opposable thumbs, and

the ability to laugh are what sets us apart from most of the other animals.

[katanalori]

57. I mari333 n/t

O8)

[katanalori]

59. I meant I HEART mari333

[katanalori]

56. AMEN

She is a beautiful being, just he way she is. She is not auditioning for a modeling job, she is selling her voice. She would be beautiful even if she looked like a warthog. I cannot believe we are even discussing this "on her behalf."

[madeline_con]

68. Not true. As a matter of fact, there was this old guy

who gave me the willies with his eyebrows. Some senior senator or sometning, I forget his name. Anyway, he was sporting two very furry porcupines! I mean this stuf was huge and stuck out in several directions when he was shot in profile. Someone close to him should have gently suggested he "have them done".

[itsrobert]

3. She will be made over

Count on it.

[JanMichael]

5. I know

I just saw a DUer advocating plastic surgery for her.

[Taverner]

6. Meh - she's a singer. I think the whole thing was staged - but still she deserves a career

Even if she is a pro, she has a good voice. Too bad it will be wasted on show tunes and not heavy metal (can you imagine her doing Immigrant Song?)

[Confusious]

71. Hey! I like show tunes.

I'm straight. Just thought I would add that.

[Rowdyboy]

14. I saw a clip this morning and her hair was much more contemporary looking....

Whatever that means...She'll do fine

[Tangerine LaBamba]

19. Leave her alone ...........

She's got her look down, it's all hers, it's not the contemporary standard for "beauty," which is littered with anorectic bodies waxing themselves into a frenzy, and she has a talent that obliterates all those superficial twits who can't see past the packaging.

I'd rather read a good book in an uninteresting cover than a bad book in a fabulous cover...................

[GoesTo11]

22. Come on,

we all know she's not physically beautiful. Let's not patronize her by saying she is. She looks like she does, and that's ok, but there are cross-cultural studies of what makes a person attractive, and that's not her. Nice voice, though.

[Mari333]

28. everyone is physically beautiful

if you have the eyes to see it.
otherwise its conditioning.

[GoesTo11]

38. Nothing wrong with being realistic

I'm not physically beautiful and I don't go around thinking I am. I don't go around thinking about it much at all. I just look like I do. There are some things people just find attractive - symmetry, straight teeth, good skin, the v-shape in men and the hip to waist ratio in women, etc. Other than Borat and Zohan, I bet we can't get anyone to truthfully say they find her to be really physically beautiful (no reference to her soul which may be beautiful or her voice which is)

I'm sure she'll get some good makeup and some more flattering clothing, but she's not going to look like Mariah Carey and she shouldn't try to. She should just sing.

[Mari333]

49. I think everyone is physically beautiful. nt

[GoesTo11]

76. Thank you!

Now I know I've got at least one fan.

[Mari333]

79. hugs

:hug:

[stray cat]

31. How many opera singers are knockout gorgeous? I think she will do fine.

[Berry Cool]

33. And you can bet that if she didn't have that voice

no one would think of her as a beautiful person at all. Despite what kind of good and decent human being she appears to be.

[katanalori]

61. I would. and so would mari333. so there.

[KittyWampus]

35. I actually think she is attractive.

[stray cat]

36. When you add the voice and the lack of pretension - absolutely

She is 47 and she looks like her age - ie like most of us.

[Mike 03]

39. I heard her voice on the radio before I saw a picture of her, and it gave me hope

that human beings were capable of moving beyond appearances.

It felt like some social/spiritual breakthrough. But now it sounds like the bloom is off the rose and some individuals are back to dismantling art by resorting to the lowest common denominator of attack.

[omega minimo]

42. Ah but you can keep your breakthrough for yourself. Others do too.

:thumbsup:

[LanternWaste]

46. Ms. Boyle is aces in my book!!!

It's a tough thing to do...

There's a band of "professional" musicians on DU who have stated I only like her singing because of her frumpy looks-- very, very shallow thinking they implied to me. There's another band of posters that tell me the show has devolved my taste, and the only reason we like her singing is because we're shallow and easily manipulated by the "corporate meritocracy" (or some term like that which would get me kicked out of a retirement center Scrabble game...)

So be it. I really enjoyed the number she performed, and I thought she performed it very, very well. Much better than the performances of our "professional" musicians and their anti-talent show allies (oh, that's right-- you guys haven't been "discovered" yet-- so I couldn't have seen your performances unless I visit some dive you payed to play at-- so sorry, my apologies).

But then again... I'm shallow! :P Ms. Boyle is aces in my book!!!

[subterranean]

47. Actually, I think her looks are an asset.

Let's face it, she would not have become such an instant worldwide sensation if not for the perceived contrast between her appearance and her singing voice. If she had been younger and conventionally attractive, I don't think she would have garnered so much attention.

[krabigirl]

63. Agreed. And if you will, then post your photo so we can all see how "perfect" you are.

[RebelOne]

65. Leave this lady alone. She is fine as she is.

Why does everything have to be based on good looks? I had been blessed with great looks in my younger years, but I found that being beautiful doesn't mean shit unless you have other talents. But now, in my later years, my successes have been because I also had a brain.

[gmoney]

67. You brought it up

[JanMichael]

81. no. I did not.

do you have anything else to add to the conversation?

[gmoney]

82. Well, not to be glib, but starting a thread regarding her appearance IS bringing it up.

just sayin...

[Contrary1]

75. I tend to judge folks by what is within them....

She seems to be a lovely person.

[flyarm]

77. Listen to her sing "CRY ME A RIVER" SHE IS BEAUTIFUL..SHE OWNS MY HEART!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5ETPG26ALE&feature=related

[hlthe2b]

78. She should dress and look as SHE wants to look--her own look

I think she is very endearing and sincere. She'd be marvelous in so many Broadway roles...



Those who want to change her--- Can anyone argue with this famous vocalists style?




I dare say no one would say Queen Aretha should change one iota! ;)

[Mike 03]

80. Today on the Ron and Fez show (on XM radio) some caller called Uma Thurman ugly.

So you can see how far we've fallen, how insane, pathetic and unrealistic our tastes have become.

Uma Thurman ugly?

I'd like to see what this guy looks like.

[Raine]

83. This whole shock about Susan Boyle

really irks me, what a suprise :wow: that someone who looks like her can sing so well ... yeah, only beautiful people can have a great voice ... :eyes: :wtf: :mad:

[kwassa]

84. Physical beauty and an amazing voice have no relation to one another.

and never have. Many of the greatest voices in opera have belonged to people who were rather odd-looking.

Occasionally you find both in the same package, but mostly what is sold in the pop world is a pretty woman with a light, wispy voice enhanced by studio trickery. There are some exceptions, but not many.