Gas is over $4.00 a gallon in San Francisco now!

[cboy4]

:cry:



http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2007/03/30/MNG50OUPG71.DTL

San Francisco's surging gasoline prices stand poised to smash their old record of $3.36 for a gallon of regular, perhaps as early as today.

Some stations in the city already have passed that record, set last May.

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Want premium? At least one San Francisco station was charging $4.18 per gallon.

[robinlynne]

1. I want an electric car!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Monkeyman]

3. I am riding my bike and Putting my hog back in running form

Today here it jump five cents we are still under 4

[Erika]

4. W's global corporate buds have never been happier

They are going to wipe the middle class out of existence and tell them to be happy because they still have crumbs to eat. And their is nothing wrong with dirt floors. Just sweep harder.

[IChing]

6. I can see Exxon and all the other oil companies reaping

record profits again next quarter. War, rumors of war and uncertainty is good for business.

[Erika]

7. And Bush and Cheney are right there reaping the profits

and raping the American people.

[IChing]

9. Who said that it is not rape if you are married?

Some talk show person I think, I saw the thread on DU.

I want a divorce.

[Erika]

12. It was the bushbots who married the oilmen

It was we who were raped.

[cboy4]

5. I know! How much is it right now down there? n/t

[robinlynne]

11. gas is 3.30 her in LA, but that is the cheapest grade.

[cboy4]

25. Cheap!

;)

[Viva_La_Revolution]

2. I look like a genius

I told my roomie to gas up yesterday, and he did. Today gas was 11 cents higher.

Thank you DU!

[Initech]

8. Under Clinton, gas was $1.18. Oil was $18 a barrell.

YA HEAR THAT NEOCONS? YOU FUCKING HYPOCRITICAL PIECES OF SHIT? DO YOU HEAR THAT?!

[Erika]

10. The bushbots put oilmen in charge of our government

and now they are reaping what they sowed. But we're paying for their utter stupidity also.

[robinlynne]

14. oh there is no stupidity. just pure greed and evil. Looking stupid gets them off in court.

[Initech]

16. Yup, it's all about profit.

I'm starting to wonder if greed / money is an addiction and if it can be treated as such. All these thugs are concerned about is money, money, money. They want more of it for themselves and less for everybody else. They can't get enough green.

[Erika]

15. But Bill threw the world into a tizzy because of a blowjob

That's far more relevant than war, the cost of gas, or anything else. Don't you have priorities? (Freeper off)

[Initech]

17. OMG!!! Wont somebody puh-lease think of the children???

:rofl:

[n2doc]

20. In 1999, I paid $0.69 a gal in south Texas

Amazing what putting a couple of oil execs in the WH will do. And the idiots down there loved Shrub...

[The Doctor.]

41. “What I think the president ought to do,"

"is he ought to get on the phone with the OPEC cartel and say we expect you to open your spigots."
"One reason why the price is so high is because the price of crude oil has been driven up."

"OPEC has gotten its supply act together," Bush advised listeners, "and it's driving the price, like it did in the past."

"And," Bush said in direct advice to Clinton, "the president of the United States must jawbone OPEC members to lower the prices." -Bush, 2000

I believe that's "GOD-DAMNED FUCKING HYPOCRITICAL PIECES OF SHIT"

Why are there so many stupid fucking people in this country.

Next time I see a 'W' sticker on someone's car, I'll be sure to thank them for the gas prices and throw 'em that quote.

[misanthrope]

49. In the summer of 1986, gas was 50¢ a gallon...

...and we all know who was in the Oval Office then.

I think you're giving Clinton too much credit. He and his wife are certainly as corporatist as the next politician. Who do you think was the driving force behind NAFTA? Who refused to let a group of western states carry on with the marijuana decriminalization their very citizens decided via DEMOCRATIC process?

Granted ShrubCo Inc.® gets a ton of blame for the current oil situation but to think Clinton was some dramatic opposition to Big Oil isn't exactly objective.

[barb162]

13. why is it so much higher in SF?

[Initech]

18. At least 30% - 40% of the cost of gas in California is taxes.

That plus some gas stations jack up the cost of gas about 50 cents higher than the place across the street does. That practice is more common in California than any other place I've been in the country.

[haele]

51. Actually, CA state taxes on gas are 18 cents a gallon, amongst the lower third in the US

http://www.gaspricewatch.com/usgastaxes.asp
Federal taxes are 18.4 cents

You might be thinking about the local taxes that are often levied on the pumps. Even so, states like Arkansas and Texas, where gas is cheaper by 30 cents a gallon, have higher state taxes than California by 5 to 10 cents a gallon.

The real issue in CA is that gasoline has been deregulated in most areas; some towns have regulations, but most don't.

So, here in San Diego proper, almost every station is forced to buy gas at the price the companies decide; and there are no laws forcing competition so if, say, Exxon wants to charge a certain amount at a location, no matter what the actual market value with a reasonable (say, 20%) markup would be, there's no relief. In El Cajon, not 10 miles east, and in Escondido 15 miles north, there are some weak attempt at local regulations against price fixing and collusion, and even with an additional 1% increase in sales tax in El Cajon the price per gallon is a good 10 cents a gallon cheaper.

Just tracking gasoline prices shows a strange coincidence. It seems that this is more of something similar to a red state/blue state issue; the gasoline companies will charge more in states where there is a possibility where they can be hit on environmental or legal issues, but with their "homeboy" states where they've got more pull in the local governments, they'll charge less.

Haele

[nolabels]

19. Because people still buy it for that price

Just a thought :shrug:

[barb162]

23. And they'll buy it for ten times that across the country in a few yrs.

which still makes me wonder why it's so much higher there than other places in the country

[nolabels]

31. The use of all this stored energy on the planet is being wasted very badly

I don't know about ten times but could see to the tune of five times, just looking at the way things are now how our civilization could become that much more efficient with energy with just our current knowledge set. As for now, the way things are going, we are ignorant to facts to how much we are killing ourselves and how much we are killing off the future it seems. In the long run i am pessimistically optimistic, it just looks bad now. Despots last gasp soon to pass

[cboy4]

26. Everything in California costs more, but.....

yes, we are taxed to death, plus:

=============================================================

Gas prices rise with change in seasons, fuels


By: Geoff Johnson
Posted: 3/14/07
Gas prices are up above $3 per gallon again, and with summer approaching, prices are liable to increase even more, experts say.


Christopher Knittel, associate professor of economics at UC Davis, attributed the hike to a seasonal change in the type of oil used at refineries.


"Refineries start switching from their winter blend to their summer blend of gasoline," Knittel said. "They have to clean out their winter blend to allow for the summer blend."


http://www.californiaaggie.com/home/index.cfm?event=displayArticlePrinterFriendly&uStory_id=d7509fac-7eba-454c-8a73-1603c4ad3994

[LuckyLib]

55. For the number of people, SF has fewer gas stations than you might think. It's a captive audience.

[still_one]

21. funny when oil was above 70 bucks a barrel it didn't get this high

oil is below 70 bucks a barrel, and it is higher

Until we start using alternative energy this will continue

[rman]

33. i think stored reserves of both oil and gas are getting tight

[buddysmellgood]

22. Excellent...Nothing will move the country to renewables faster than high-price gas...sorry

that they are targeting San Fran...Thanks for taking one for the team.

[knight_of_the_star]

28. I think we can take it

Between the Muni, the BART, and the buses all you really need is some change in your pocket and good walking shoes and you can get anywhere in this city at least as fast as with a car. Now if it was that much in LA or San Diego that would be devastating, especially in SD where Mass Transit is a joke.

[cboy4]

43. I wouldn't be one bit surprised if SOCAL stations started pushing

prices toward the $4 mark.

I mean, what's to stop them, especially if S.F. stations are getting away with it?

[Selatius]

24. High gas prices will be the way the US moves towards renewable energy and higher fuel efficiency

It seems that nothing changes until people are screaming in pain.

[knight_of_the_star]

27. Which station is that?

I am sooooo happy that SF and the Bay Area have a good mass transit network.

[xchrom]

29. ...

:grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr:

i want to these petroleum giants brought DOWN.

i can't WAIT to see how much in profits they'll make for this quarter.

[cboy4]

34. And of course, the CEO's will come up with same 'ol tired

answer that they're puting huge amounts into exploration, etc.

The way they talk, you'd think they were on the brink of going into the poorhouse. :eyes:

[xchrom]

35. i know what you mean -- something has

to be done to once again break this monopoly.

[Hubert Flottz]

30. Bush is letting the oil companies TAX us at the gas pumps.

The country don't get any of the benefits from us paying out more money, but the oil companies do. When will congress ask WHY?

Bush ran on his promise to let Americans keep more of their money in their pockets, by lowering taxes, but then he lets the oil companies take more of our money and stick it in their pockets, by gouging us at the pumps. You pay more for almost every item that you buy, or every service that you use, as the cost of fuel goes up.

[cosmicdot]

42. ding

ask not what a a Bu$hism can do for you ... future generations will be quoting ...

"There's an old...saying in Tennessee...I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee that says Fool me once...(3 second pause)... Shame on...(4 second pause)...Shame on you....(6 second pause)...Fool me...Can't get fooled again." --George W. Bush to Nashville, Tennessee audience, Sept. 17, 2002

But, they do get fooled again; and, Bu$h thanks 'em (re the Free Republic board; Limbaugh listeners).

If only that money was going to domestic infrastructure ~ health care, rail transportation, water works, new energy, social security ~ instead of Big Oil CEOs.

[gollygee]

32. Wow! Thank goodness SF has public transportation anyway

I suppose it's coming to the rest of the country as well. We don't have to drive much because we live near everything we need. But this is going to hurt some people BAD. :( Around here, cheap property often means property out in the country (so people who have a long way to drive to work), so it will to some extent hurt people largely who will have a harder time affording it.

[mnhtnbb]

36. ouch! My brother just accepted a job with a biotech in south SF.

Sending him this and suggesting he find a house near a BART station!

[cboy4]

37. I love BART! Just being able to avoid the awful traffic

on the freeways makes it worthwhile! :)

[Vidar]

38. Bush's real goal & "victory" in Iraq. Never mind a million corpses.

[Octafish]

39. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED

"Kick their ass and steal their gas."

[cboy4]

40. What?

:shrug:

[Octafish]

50. Bush supporters are prone to criminality.

That chant refers to the theft of Middle Eastern oil.
Another popular saying of these people is:
"Kill them all. Let God sort them out."
They, like the drunken monkey they follow, are disgusting.

[cboy4]

52. Oh, okay just checking. Thanks. n/t

[Kablooie]

44. Just have a little patience. When Bush opens Iraq's oil fields prices will drop.

Hooray!

Why it's certainly worth the destruction of a distant foreign society, the deaths of thousands of American soldiers and thousands upon thousands of Iraqis so we can finally save a few dollars at the gas pump and can forget developing alternative energy sources. What a deal!

[cboy4]

46. But then when we attack Iran....up they'd go again.

The price of crude oil has already risen sharply since Iran took the UK soldiers hostage.

[GETPLANING]

45. Look at it this way

High gasoline prices will be what drives the Hummers and Suburbans to the scrapyard.
It's free market capitalism at work, and it's actually helping the environment.
If it costs $5.00 in gas to drive across town to buy a cabinet knob, maybe people will finally change the way they live.

[cboy4]

47. Yes, all good points. Still, for people who live in the

suburbs like myself, there are no public transit options to get to work if you have a job in the City.

I'm fortunate that I earn a living which allows me to sustain a little pain at the pump.

For many others, however, it's a back breaker.

[phusion]

48. Time to get on the bike. n/t

[PearliePoo2]

53. I just sent that pic of the shell station prices out to everyone in my address book

They say a picture is worth a thousand words.
I also added to my e-mail that the price was $1.18 when Clinton was president as posted in response #8.
This one will make even the whackos with blinders on sit up and take notice.
It hits them in their wallets (on the opposite side of their Copenhagen)
The redneck 4x4, gun toting, Bushbots are not going to afford to go anywhere...period.
Big Oil is running this country, maybe this will be the final straw?

[mile18blister]

54. Wipe out the middle-class and the Teamsters

I also believe this is a plan to break the Teamsters Union by bankrupting truckers. * wants Mexico to take over the trucking industry, at lower wages of course. (I'm not attacking the Mexican people, I'm attacking the BFEE.)

In the 1990's I thought the country was being setup for a sucker punch when low gas prices let people ditch their cars for gas-guzzling SUV's. Unfortunately, it looks like I was right.

[kdpeters]

56. i got rid of my car three years ago

Even then, I couldn't believe how much money I started saving. No payments, no insurance, no gas, no parking tickets. Luckyling I live in a transit rich neighborhood and can catch a bus or train direct to most areas of town. Once you get used to adjusting your lifestyle for always walking or busing, you get used to it and it's plenty easy to rent a car to go somewhere for the weekend. I'll never drive in this city ever again. I had no idea gas prices had gone so high. It's been three years since I had any reason to.

Got rid of cable last year. Now we only use the tv to watch movies.

[BlooInBloo]

57. My car getting stolen 6 months ago was the best blessing-in-disguise EVER.