Message to Tea-baggers... The Era of Big Selfishness is OVER!

[Joanne98]

That's a message from ME to YOU!

You don't want to pay taxes? GET OUT!

There are plenty of third world countries for you to move to. I hear Somalia doesn't have taxes. GO THERE!

I'm sick and tired of your tantrums. You people are nothing but frauds. Obama just CUT taxes for 98% of the people in this country and you're going to bitch! WHY? Is it because the bailout bandits on Wall Street are getting their taxes raised? I know how much you love those guys since you've voted to de-regulate them. In fact isn't this whole mess YOUR FAULT? I think it is!

You don't even have the decency to APOLOGIZE to the country for wrecking it. You're so spoiled with the shit you've gotten away with for the last thirty years. Your entitlement days are coming to and end. REAL SOON!

So enjoy while you can. Change is coming to America whether you like it or not.

And don't forget to make lots of stupid statements. We need more youtube videos!

[non sociopath skin]

1. Great post, Joanne. We need more people to tell them this!

:yourock:

The Skin

[Submariner]

2. The Fox News Corp. tea bagging events tomorrow

should be quite embarrassing to the republitards. Prepare for a lot of belly laughing at these fools. They probably don't realize that they are in essence protesting against Bush who took a budget surplus and turned it into a trillion dollar plus national debt. Stoopid repukes.

[Winterblues]

11. Not Bush* but Republicans in general

It is a Republican mess not a Bush* mess. Bush* could not have done a thing without complete support form the GOP. Basically all Bush* did was sign the bills. The Republican congress created them. Bush* is not the person or persons behind this tea party. It comes from Dick Armey and Newt Gingrich and the same ones that created the mess.

[Joanne98]

3. And if they're not careful they could be declared terrorists!

This week we will see anti-government protests in the form of "tea parties". These protesters claim to be descended from the famous Boston Tea Party instigators (America's first terrorists?), and the always-reliable Fox News has picked up on this self-proclaimed connection: Today's Tea Party Movement Has a Lot in Common with the Sons of Liberty.
Unfortunately, as with many conservative attempts at propaganda, the logic is all wet. The original "Sons of Liberty" were protesting taxation without representation, by a tyrannical and distant government. The current protesters have representatives at all levels of government; they just don't like being in the minority.

It seems to me that there is a better analogy for the Tea Party Movement: the Weather Underground.

Cliff Garstang :: "Tea Party Movement"--the new Weather Underground?
You may recall those folks, especially because Republicans refreshed our memories by making absurd connections between the WU and Barack Obama, by the mere fact that Obama is acquainted with Bill Ayers. That claim was ridiculous on its face (no matter how many idiotic, brainwashed conservatives believed it). And I have to say that my current analysis is not flattering to the Weather Underground, who were motivated not by greed but by the conviction that their government was behaving unconscionably.
Still, the parallel is there. The members of the Weather Underground, and other antiwar protesters, had legal means available to them to make themselves heard. They had representatives in Congress; they just didn't like that the majority in Congress was taking this country in a different direction. The Tea Party movement is similar. At the moment I have not heard of any proposed illegal behavior by this movement, but it does seem to me that they are in the early stages of revolutionary activity. This Wednesday may just be about "Tea Parties," but can bomb-throwing be far behind? After all, some of these same people have advocated wiping the Middle East off the map. They've assassinated (or applauded the assassination) of doctors who perform legal abortions. They've made threats (or defended those who made threats) against the President of the United States.

These Tea Parties bear watching. It could be the birth not of a nation, but a dangerous terrorist network.

http://cobalt6.net/diary/2495/tea-party-movementthe-new-weather-underground

I really hope they push it. I would love nothing better than to see every conservative BRAT in this country thrown behind bars forever and tortured. Keep it the fuck up!

[FredStembottom]

14. Side note:

Thom Hartmann makes a strong case that the original Boston Tea party was about monopolization of the tea trade. The British East India co (one of the world's first trans-national "corporations") was granted exclusive monopoly over the British tea trade by royal decree. That included Britain's new colonies in America.

This cheap tea was flooding into the colonies and pre-emptively stunting an entire American industry. This made folks mad and wasn't the only case of oppressive dumping by the British homeland. So..... the protest threw the offending product into the ocean.

This clarification helped resolve a "friction" in my mind ever since I was first taught that story in Elementary school: How does dumping tea in the ocean protest taxation?
Only kinda-sorta.
But it directly protests foreign commodity dumping fer sure!

[ProfessorGAC]

4. And Stay Off My Interstate Highways!

Don't want to pay taxes, get off our roads!

There ideas are fully repudiated by the facts at hand. Time for them to shrink into the night.
GAC

[KharmaTrain]

5. The Lies Only Are Surpassed By The Manipulation

The ideal rushpubliacn is one that is fully self-absorbed and easily manipulated to believe they, too, will either get rich or one day will be rich and that their wealthy "bretheren" will lead them to this promised land. Just like how the GOOP has strung the "pro lifers" around for years with promises of overturning Roe v. Wade but won't do it as long as it fills their pockets with money, the same can be applied here.

As has been noted by many here, most these teabaggers have no clue what they're protesting about. They swallow the lies that they're being overtaxed, yet are the first assholes to bitch when there's a pothole in the road or their federal teet is cut off. They spout misinformation about how small business will be taxed out of existance without noting that many of these companies have pre-tax deductions they can use that make those taxes lower than most (why so many people flock to S Chapters and LLCs). They have no clue that the money being expended right now goes right back into the economy through the stimulus and will create jobs that creates both taxes and wealth (thus repaying the money in time...many times over).

But hell it's gonna be a party...lots of ranting and chanting...talking points and strawmen. How could a wingnut resist?

[bdamomma]

6. this is nothing but a scam these teabagging protests.

those like Dick Armey, Vitter and Newt and Fox are orchestrating this whole thing, and the sheep are being herded to their whims. This is not a grassroots effort, and this has underlings of the last days of the campaigning when Palin was spewing all the untruths about Obama. Calling him a terrorist, and a Muslim.

[Possumpoint]

7. Counter Point

I'll keep my money and guns, you keep the change.

I completely object to the need to raise taxes because the government has over stepped its bounds and decided to rescue the insolvent banks and corporations. Taxes will need to be raised on the Federal side and will be or have been raised on the state and local levels.

Our Federal Government is verging on bankruptcy and our elected representatives are determined to put us further over. Many localities are bankrupt. Yet, the various elected representatives are unwilling to make the necessary cuts to bring tax revenues and expenses in balance. Somehow they think that they can borrow and print the money to achieve prosperity. The states and localities are looking to the Federal government to supply money from the sky.

I'm a Social Security recipient. I would like to see that program continued. It, however, will be insolvent in the near future. Politicians from both sides of the aisle saw the Social Security taxes received as a piggy bank that could be tapped to fund general expenses thereby avoiding tax increase or deficit spending. We recipients were give IOUs promising future repayment. Somehow I'm not sure that those promises will be kept. Not yet old enough to qualify for Medicate but that program was never funded correctly and will pull the whole house of cards down. Either fund it properly or abolish it.

You want Universal Health Care. Bring the proposal out when you figure out how to fund it. I only ask three things, balanced budget required at all levels of government, fully fund Social Security and flat income taxes. I won't be holding my breath however.

[leftynyc]

12. Ohhhh- a right wing bumpersticker

I think I saw that bogus "you keep the change" nonsense over at freak republic. Since the Obama administration is only 3 months old (not even), why don't you just sit back and see how he's trying to undo the damage the last 8 years of unfettered deregulation under the previous president. We didn't get into this mess in a few months and it's moronic for people to think we're going to get out of it quickly.

Taxes are being raised on the 1.2% of the highest wage earners. They want to bring the tax rate for those people to 10% UNDER what it was under Reagan. Everyone else is getting a cut.

And I really hope you and your friends are disillusioned enough to believe that only the righties are armed. I'm going to really love that element of surprise.

[FredStembottom]

15. Oh snap!

And correct, too.
Under The Great Socialist Obama, that tax rate DOESN'T EVEN COME UP TO SAINT REAGAN'S TAX RATES!!!!!

Just helping you pound that into some heads, leftnyc.......

LESS THAN REAGAN !!!!!!!!!!!

[Possumpoint]

16. I hope

you get over the illusion that money is free and that the government can spend its way back to prosperity. The past 60 years of fiscal irresponsibility, topped by the past administration complete failure to follow basic fiscal requirements has resulted in the mess we're in. The Federal Government is bankrupt and continues to spend like a drunken sailor. Stop now while we have a prayer of recovery.

As to your gun comment, you missed the mark on that also. Mine are kept for home defense only.

Seems that few on this forum accept counter views on economics. Very few put up valid points. Taxes across the board are being raised. I'm not talking just about Federal. They are increasing the tax rate on what is now a decreasing base. That doesn't make sense.

[Winterblues]

17. Conservative garbage.....Fair tax is anything but..

Medicare and Social Security are funded in the exact same manner. I somehow get the impression that you have no idea what you are talking about..

[Possumpoint]

25. Fair Tax?

Where did you pull that gem out of?

[HughBeaumont]

21. You're a flat taxer . .. ah ha. . . ah ha ha . . . ah HAA HA HA HA HAAAA!!

I just don't get why people keep propagating this silly idea that would make things exponentially worse for the poor and middle class and allow the rich to get off even more scot-free than they already ARE getting off. UNbelievable.

You do realize what happens when you try to balance the budget during a massive recession your heroes (from the looks of it) CAUSED, right?

Oh wait, you don't. Here's a clue, IT MAKES THINGS WORSE.

[Possumpoint]

24. Yes

I'm a flat taxer and have been for thirty years. I want a tax that is equal to everyone. Every tax payer has an equal obligation to fund the government. I don't care if you own a house or have children, that doesn't increase or decrease your requirement to support the government. I don't care how you receive you income, be it welfare, social security, wages, stock futures, etc. The same tax rate should apply. No deductions, no exceptions, the money you receive is taxed at the same flat rate. All income should be taxable. No IRS is required. Any money found to be untaxed is forfeit to the federal government.

Just who the "F" is trying to balance the budget? Is it Obama? Was it Bush? What happens if we don't? I have an answer for you, hyperinflation. Let the rot and corruption fall out. If it's insolvent bankrupt it and sell off the good assets.

"Oh wait, you don't. Here's a clue, IT MAKES THINGS WORSE." Idiots like you think stringing out the insolvent and rotten investments is the way to go. You think that the government should be required to support each and every citizen. What happened to personal responsibility? Oh, that's a republican concept and should only apply to them?

Got news for you. The credit bubble has so many holes in it, it would take a hurricane to re-inflate it. Debt based economies are set to fail. Governments using fiat money will fail. Wake up and see the future.

Beyond a flat tax, I want a balanced budget for the Federal government. Deficit spending on an uncontrolled level like we've seen for many years will destroy this country.

[jfkraus]

8. Well said!

[Laelth]

9. Righteous rant. k&r n/t

:dem:

-Laelth

[jimlup]

10. Go post

Let's not get too worked up about these folks. I think the tea bagging protests are going to be underwhelming.

We just have to keep noticing the humor of it all

:rofl:

[OnionPatch]

13. I don't know when I've been happier to recommend a post.

I'm so freakin' sick of these whining cry-babies. They aren't even getting their taxes raised, so they're basically demonstrating to defend the greedy, rich bastards who have already taken our country for a ride and emptied our pockets. What thoroughly disgusting people.

[NancyBotwin]

18. HI-LA-RIOUS!

so true so true. best straight to the point facts.

[Joanne98]

19. kick

[Wednesdays]

20. K&R

:kick:

[HughBeaumont]

22. It's because the current President is a Democrat.

And just like the CRA and Carter, it's their "OUT"; the way to pin the blame for their fuck-ups on those who had absolutely nothing to do with them.

28 years of funny money economics without a peep, war wasting and rich people coddling abound, and NOW they decide to come out of their wormholes. Simply stunning.

I'm going to go down to Mall C tomorrow, and I'm willing to bet I'll see a handful of angry white guys carrying the water for the wealthmongers. I'll take pictures of the idiocy, for sure.

K & R.

[solinvictus]

23. It's not all tantrum.

You do realize that the Obama budget consists of an unsustainable level of spending and deficit spending. You can not simultaneously exponentially increase spending and lower the median tax rate on a majority of the population. Further, Obama's tax "cuts" are applied to those who do not pay taxes anyway; which means this is nothing more than a transfer payment from the government.

Change? Sure, you can look at the change we could likely see in this hyperinflation of Germany and Hungary after WW1 or what Zimbabwe is enduring now. The plan of propping up failed financial institutions with taxpayer funds while simultaneously dumping a devalued currency into the market seems likely to result in the same situation.

It wasn't just Republicans who ruined our economy; Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, and the Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac gang are equally responsible. Democrats pressured financial institutions to all but abandon financial underwriting for mortgage loans while the Republicans deregulated Wall Street so that many profited from speculation on these loans. No one has a monopoly on blame for this mess.