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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 06:10 PM Original message |
Isn't divorce off limit for Catholics? |
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monmouth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 06:11 PM Response to Original message |
1. Nah, we've been telling Rome to shove it for years....n/t |
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madinmaryland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 06:11 PM Response to Original message |
2. Divorce is off limits, but apparently having extra-marital affairs are not to Catholics. |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 06:12 PM Response to Original message |
3. Remarriage is off limits. Not necessarily divorce. Remarriage would be committing adultery. |
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madinmaryland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 06:18 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. Annulment after 28 years?? |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 06:22 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. If she can prove that he violated the covenants of the marriage |
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madinmaryland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 06:34 PM Response to Reply #11 |
19. I'm not a Catholic so I don't know their rules. |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 06:40 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Not a cheater, either. |
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glinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 06:43 PM Response to Reply #11 |
24. Annulment allows you to remarry, stay in the good graces of the Church but in reality |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 06:45 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Not in the eyes of the Church. They're completely different. |
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glinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 08:27 PM Response to Reply #27 |
55. I am only reporting what I knew as a former Catholic who went through a Divorce and |
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HarukaTheTrophyWife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 11:27 PM Response to Reply #27 |
68. Yep, my stepdad plans on getting one |
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a la izquierda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 09:26 PM Response to Reply #11 |
63. Oh lord, you sound like you know my mom! Nt |
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MetaTrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 06:53 PM Response to Reply #8 |
33. Can't we be pretty sure the marriage was never consummated? |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 06:40 PM Response to Reply #3 |
22. What does annulment do to the kids they had in the marriage? |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 06:50 PM Response to Reply #22 |
28. No, they are not 'bastards'. |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 06:52 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. If only the Cardinals could marry, I would then bet it wouldn't be so hard to prove to them |
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SoxFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 07:22 PM Response to Reply #28 |
37. Unfortunately, they are very politicized |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 07:26 PM Response to Reply #28 |
40. Oh, please. |
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NightWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 06:12 PM Response to Original message |
4. they do it all the time now, thankfully...my ex was catholic |
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HarukaTheTrophyWife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 06:13 PM Response to Original message |
5. He's not even a real Catholic |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 06:50 PM Response to Reply #5 |
30. Building a church not under any diocese and not adherent to Papal authority would |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 06:16 PM Response to Original message |
6. He could certainly afford to have the marriage declared null by the Vatican. |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 06:25 PM Response to Reply #6 |
14. Yep, he has the dollars to buy the anullment... |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 06:29 PM Response to Reply #6 |
16. He has a lot of kids. This makes it a little difficult to prove |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 11:10 PM Response to Reply #16 |
67. Actual, the trick with annulment is that the marriage was not |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 07:58 PM Response to Reply #6 |
46. No, he couldn't. |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 06:17 PM Response to Original message |
7. not unless you have a lot of money |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 06:42 PM Response to Reply #7 |
23. So, apparently it IS easier for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. |
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glinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 06:44 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Funny as hell! |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 07:33 PM Response to Reply #23 |
43. I doubt it |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 10:14 PM Response to Reply #43 |
64. I know, I know. True, it is an illusion. And some people are |
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marimour (696 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 08:05 PM Response to Reply #7 |
51. yeah |
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robdogbucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 06:21 PM Response to Original message |
9. No divorce |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 06:23 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. Um, no idea what you're talking about. Buying annulments? |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 07:15 PM Response to Reply #13 |
36. Annulments cost money. |
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sarcasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 07:50 PM Response to Reply #13 |
45. I wonder how my first wife did that with the church. I thought it was all money. Thanks. |
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cherish44 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 06:21 PM Response to Original message |
10. All you need to get an annulment in the Catholic Church is about $3000 to pay for it |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 08:03 PM Response to Reply #10 |
48. Oh yeah? Funny that RFK Jr. couldn't get one then. n/t |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 06:22 PM Response to Original message |
12. I heard that she isn't Catholic. The consequence for Gibson (if that's right) |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 06:39 PM Response to Reply #12 |
20. She is Episcopalian, I believe. Attends Mass every day. nt |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 08:05 PM Response to Reply #12 |
50. He "can't anything" in the Roman Catholic church |
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HarukaTheTrophyWife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 11:28 PM Response to Reply #12 |
69. Neither is he |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 06:27 PM Response to Original message |
15. For the rank and file but if you are a rich princess from Monaco, you can |
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SoxFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 07:23 PM Response to Reply #15 |
38. Or a Kennedy |
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rurallib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 06:29 PM Response to Original message |
17. Well when I was a kid and all the catholic church was the extreme |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 08:06 PM Response to Reply #17 |
52. Gibson hasn't been a Roman Catholic ever since he left the Church |
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rurallib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 09:13 PM Response to Reply #52 |
58. So would he be under the former rules or would he be another Henry 8th? |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 09:18 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Henry the 8th, I guess. n/t |
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rurallib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 09:19 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. Let the divorces commence! |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 06:30 PM Response to Original message |
18. so is diddling altar boys....yet |
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SoxFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 07:24 PM Response to Reply #18 |
39. irrelevant, childish, flame-bait |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
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WillowTree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 06:50 PM Response to Original message |
29. I don't know where some of you get these ideas. |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 06:59 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. Thank you. Exactly what I was saying without personal experience. |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 06:52 PM Response to Original message |
31. annullment after 28 years and a crop of kids just ain't gonna fly. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 08:08 PM Response to Reply #31 |
53. Annulment when neither party is a Roman Catholic ain't gonna fly. |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 08:40 PM Response to Reply #31 |
57. My grandfather got an annulment from the Church after almost that long. |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 12:20 PM Response to Reply #57 |
73. translation -- he knew somebody who knew somebody |
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geckosfeet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 07:00 PM Response to Original message |
35. ultra extreme alcoholic as well |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 07:28 PM Response to Original message |
41. Gibson seems different: Mel Gibson builds a $37m church in the Malibu hills |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 08:10 PM Response to Reply #41 |
54. Which also means that this whole discussion of R.C. annulments doesn't apply. |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 08:35 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. True but still poor Robyn; married to Mad Max, Mel Gibson, The Patriot... |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 09:20 PM Response to Reply #56 |
61. He's a major narcissist. After all, |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 12:26 AM Response to Reply #41 |
72. veils & no pants for women but Mel can do as he pleases |
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SoxFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 07:29 PM Response to Original message |
42. The real irony |
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goodgd_yall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
44. No, it isn't. Read post #29 for the facts. n/t |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 08:02 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. Gibson isn't a Roman Catholic, so the annulment process for R.C.'s has nothing |
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goodgd_yall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 08:04 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. I was responding to the question |
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southernyankeebelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 09:21 PM Response to Original message |
62. WELL AS FAR AS I KNOW YOU CAN BE EXCOMUNICATED HOWEVER |
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HarukaTheTrophyWife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 11:30 PM Response to Reply #62 |
70. Dude, check your caps lock |
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juno jones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 10:46 PM Response to Original message |
65. I always wondered why she didn't leave before |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 12:23 AM Response to Reply #65 |
71. She was married to a rich, famous man, has many many kids... that's why |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 10:47 PM Response to Original message |
66. Separation of church and state means you can get a civil divorce but the church may beg to differ |
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