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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 12:36 AM
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Johann Hari: You are being lied to about pirates
What The International Media Aren't Telling You About Somalia Pirates
By Susie Madrak Sunday Apr 12, 2009 6:30am Johann Hari from The Independent:

In 1991, the government of Somalia collapsed. Its nine million people have been teetering on starvation ever since – and the ugliest forces in the Western world have seen this as a great opportunity to steal the country's food supply and dump our nuclear waste in their seas.

Yes: nuclear waste. As soon as the government was gone, mysterious European ships started appearing off the coast of Somalia, dumping vast barrels into the ocean. The coastal population began to sicken. At first they suffered strange rashes, nausea and malformed babies. Then, after the 2005 tsunami, hundreds of the dumped and leaking barrels washed up on shore. People began to suffer from radiation sickness, and more than 300 died.

Ahmedou Ould-Abdallah, the UN envoy to Somalia, tells me: "Somebody is dumping nuclear material here. There is also lead, and heavy metals such as cadmium and mercury – you name it." Much of it can be traced back to European hospitals and factories, who seem to be passing it on to the Italian mafia to "dispose" of cheaply. When I asked Mr Ould-Abdallah what European governments were doing about it, he said with a sigh: "Nothing. There has been no clean-up, no compensation, and no prevention."

At the same time, other European ships have been looting Somalia's seas of their greatest resource: seafood. We have destroyed our own fish stocks by overexploitation – and now we have moved on to theirs. More than $300m-worth of tuna, shrimp, and lobster are being stolen every year by illegal trawlers. The local fishermen are now starving. Mohammed Hussein, a fisherman in the town of Marka 100km south of Mogadishu, told Reuters: "If nothing is done, there soon won't be much fish left in our coastal waters."

This is the context in which the "pirates" have emerged. Somalian fishermen took speedboats to try to dissuade the dumpers and trawlers, or at least levy a "tax" on them. They call themselves the Volunteer Coastguard of Somalia – and ordinary Somalis agree. The independent Somalian news site WardheerNews found 70 per cent "strongly supported the piracy as a form of national defence".

No, this doesn't make hostage-taking justifiable, and yes, some are clearly just gangsters – especially those who have held up World Food Programme supplies. But in a telephone interview, one of the pirate leaders, Sugule Ali: "We don't consider ourselves sea bandits. We consider sea bandits those who illegally fish and dump in our seas." William Scott would understand.

Did we expect starving Somalians to stand passively on their beaches, paddling in our toxic waste, and watch us snatch their fish to eat in restaurants in London and Paris and Rome? We won't act on those crimes – the only sane solution to this problem – but when some of the fishermen responded by disrupting the transit-corridor for 20 per cent of the world's oil supply, we swiftly send in the gunboats.


You can read the United Nations report here.

http://www.unep.org.bh/Publications/Somalia/TSUNAMI_SOMALIA_LAYOUT.pdf




Johann Hari: You are being lied to about pirates

Some are clearly just gangsters. But others are trying to stop illegal dumping and trawling



Who imagined that in 2009, the world's governments would be declaring a new War on Pirates? As you read this, the British Royal Navy – backed by the ships of more than two dozen nations, from the US to China – is sailing into Somalian waters to take on men we still picture as parrot-on-the-shoulder pantomime villains. They will soon be fighting Somalian ships and even chasing the pirates onto land, into one of the most broken countries on earth. But behind the arrr-me-hearties oddness of this tale, there is an untold scandal. The people our governments are labelling as "one of the great menaces of our times" have an extraordinary story to tell – and some justice on their side.


http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/johann-hari/johann-hari-you-are-being-lied-to-about-pirates-1225817.html
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B o d i Donating Member (543 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 12:37 AM
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1. 37 recs on the other thread already
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 12:44 AM
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2. 39, now. :)
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kpominville Donating Member (323 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 10:11 AM
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5. 39 Freepers
I take it as a measurement of how many conservative trolls we have on DU.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 10:03 AM
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3. Here we go again.
sigh.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 10:29 AM
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8. ditto sigh.
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kpominville Donating Member (323 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 10:10 AM
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4. The conservative corporate media is lying?! Say it ain't so!
Edited on Mon Apr-13-09 10:10 AM by kpominville
I agree, we are being lied to and it is obviously working judging by the other thread that wants everyone to buy into the corporate media's line, dismiss all the "pirates" as criminals and thugs and assume it is absolutely not possible there could be a logical reason behind how this started.

The fact is, if they kill all the "pirates" who are alive today, but fail to stop the illegal dumping and illegal fishing, the "piracy" continue.

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 10:13 AM
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6. Not all of us
K & R
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 10:28 AM
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7. You can't have both. illegal dumping and trawling.
People wouldn't be fishing there, if they knew the fish were contaminated. So which is it? Illegal dumping or trawling?

This would be so easy to prove. Call in Amnesty International.
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Kalyke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 10:34 AM
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12. People wouldn't be fishing if they knew it was contaminated?
Obviously, you don't know Big Corporate Business.

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/editorials/articles/2009/04/11/food_safety_for_this_century/

They don't care. They don't eat it.
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 10:44 AM
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14. You can have both. What the London diners don't know
"won't hurt them." They consume tons of fish & chips.

There's a huge demand for fish worldwide. Many other places are over-fished these days.

Here in the USA we have been warned not to eat ocean fish more than once a week to avoid getting too much mercury.

But we're also told how healthy it is to eat fish.

So, like a lot of what we consume, we weigh the various admonitions and make our choices.

There's a heck of a lot of "what we don't know won't hurt us" in our food supply.



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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 10:29 AM
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9. What a load of steaming shit
Can we please stop posting this pirate loving BULLSHIT?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 10:32 AM
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 10:33 AM
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11. This has already been posted in 10 other threads... it's still wrong
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 10:38 AM
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13. YAY
I wish I had a gif of Steve Martin banging pots together from Dirty Rotten Scoundrels

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kiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 12:22 PM
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15. To keep this from being posted again.
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Mike Daniels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 12:37 PM
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16. And someone lied to Johann about life at sea and piracy in general
Edited on Mon Apr-13-09 12:40 PM by Mike Daniels
This guy lost me when either he or his source used Bluebeard as the name of a pirate.

Sloppiness like that extends throughout the whole "piracy as democracy" argument that makes up the first portion of his article. If Johann did any research (and it appears he didn't) he'd find that his claims about piracy are nothing more than regurgitated Hollywood myths and fairy-tales about the nature of pirates.

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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 12:39 PM
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17. No doubt
Bluebeard on Wikipedia

There was no Bluebeard pirate in history.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 03:18 PM
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18. K
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