How many of you consider yourselves socialists or anarchists or anarcho-socialists?

[Selatius]

I am curious about how many self-professed socialists or anarcho-socialists or anarchists are on the board here at DU. Call it a roll call, if you want.

I guess if you want a conversation piece, a question is how did you become one? Was it passed down in some form, partially or wholly, from your parents? Your grandparents before them fought in the Spanish Civil War? Your great grandparents helped organize early labor unions in the US and the 1st May Day labor day and fought the Robber Barons? Or did you become one through thought and contemplation on your own or became one because of a role model whose principles you admire such as Martin Luther King, Jr.?

You don't have to answer these questions if you don't want to. I was just curious.

[mediaman007]

1. Liberal/Libertarian = Anarchist!

List me right in the corner with Ghandi and the Dalai Lama!

[JuniperLea]

9. Me too!

Seems I took one of those tests on the Internets and that was my result.

[nealmhughes]

25. Well, let's make it a hat trick.

Liberal (classical type) on freedoms and liberty, democratic socialist in welfare state/major infrastructure stuff.

Kinda Bernie Sanderish, I reckon.

[SteppingRazor]

2. I would say my views incorporate some a-s views, but I strongly disagree in other aspects...

mainly, I tend to fall in the same political sphere as them. I'm a very strong civil libertarian, and I believe heavily regulated capitalism, as in most democratic-socialistic countries, is probably the best form of economics. So, we find a lot to agree on, and a lot to disagree on, but mostly the former.

As for how I formed my beliefs, I got nuthin'. My parents are both Republicans, and in my social circles, I've usually been the most politically active and the furthest to the left. It's been that way since I was old enough to vote — before that, really.

[Selatius]

10. I came from an apolitical household myself. I became a liberal socialist on my own.

Both my mother and father were apolitical, and my grandfather was a nationalist who fought Japanese imperial occupation in Vietnam during WW2. I suspect he fought against the French in the 1950s before they were booted out of Vietnam. He wasn't a follower of Ho Chi Minh though, as not all nationalists subscribed to Maoism or Stalinism in those days. My mother and father fled Saigon in 1975 when the North took over. As a result, I generally have a sour taste in my mouth with respect to communism, as opposed to other forms of collectivism.

I generally think socialism can only come about through democratic means and through active participation of the people. It can't come if people do not accept it. My views converge with Mutualist Anarchists on the issue of private property, but unlike many Anarchists I believe the state has a limited role in helping people transform the economy as opposed to instituting change directly. I favor a public investment mechanism with the explicit purpose of establishing co-ops and funding the expansion of existing co-ops and the expansion of commerce and funding of infrastructure maintenance/upgrade in general. It would be much like the local banks you see, except they don't charge interest and the bank workers are public workers and the local branch managers themselves are liable to the local governments. Let the people decide how they will invest the wealth. Eventually, vast swaths of the economy would be organized into worker co-ops given enough time.

As it stands, the current nature of the US government--I can't see it as helpful in fighting for the interests of the working people both at home and abroad. It is simply so beholden to corporate interests. The only option in such an environment is for workers to go ahead and try to organize co-ops without the state helping, but the first step is educating people about what a co-op is and what is socialism.

[deutsey]

3. Democratic Socialist

www.dsausa.org

I'm a small "d" democrat and believe only in the form of socialism that is built on democratic prinicples and institutions.

I come from a poor working-class background. The more I learned about the history and struggle of working people in America, the more I believed in Democratic Socialism.

[zanne]

5. I am a Democrat now, but...

For twelve years I was a member of the Democratic Socialist Party. I'm still a Democratic Socialist at heart--sometimes I think my views are too progressive for DU.

[AnneD]

7. Here Here...

I totally agree.

[MN ChimpH8R]

35. Same here

The most sensibly run societies on earth, IMO, are the Scandinavian social democracies.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

4. Socialist family. I started out as a socialist - moved left. Now an Anarchist.

In the Gandhi/Tolstoy mold.

[Straight Shooter]

6. I've been told that my viewpoints are those of a socialist.

Fine with me. IMHO, Jesus was a socialist in many matters, and he's a worthy teacher to emulate. :)

[htuttle]

8. Long term anarcho-syndicalist here

Got involved in it via worker cooperatives many years ago. Still am.

[ms liberty]

11. Liberal democratic socialist

more or less.

[Radical Activist]

12. anarcho-syndicalist

is probably the closest description of my beliefs I've found. It happened gradually over time. I started out with the more establishment liberals I learned about in school and moved on to studying Saul Alinksy, Gandhi, Tolstoy, Emma Goldman and others.

I fight against concentrated power and oppression whether it comes for the corporate sector or the government. Anarchism is the only ideology of resistance to all forms of oppression since libertarians are more than happy to tolerate privately owned tyrannies, while state-socialists put too much power in the hands of the government.

[Lilith Velkor]

13. All of the above!

I became one on my own, then later discovered I'm related to James Connolly, so there ya go.

[elfin]

14. Just returned from Bologna Italy where the Anarchists have

a Club building pasted with posters - conveniently located about 6 feet from the carbinerie (police) building. So apparently in "Commie" Bologna, they are organized enough to have a "club" AND tolerated enough by the local poice to be so near. I find that very amusing - and in some strange way, very Italian.

[Selatius]

17. Italy has a long history of anarchist activism in her northern regions.

Many anarchists in Italy volunteered or indirectly aided the anarchist communes in operation during the Spanish Civil War, despite attacks by Franco and pro-Stalin communist forces.

[TahitiNut]

15. I'm an anachrono-swindicalist

:silly:

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

19. You're an old-timey politician with a fat wallet?

Or, are you preacher of Old-Time Religion passing the basket?

[TahitiNut]

20. (cough) They's called "campaign contributions."

:silly:

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

26. A popular pastime of the neo-Swindicalists also.

[marcus_aurelius]

16. hmmm

i have some trouble with the whole classification thing and not to be cliche in the "i refuse categorization"but i certainly agree with chris rock's perspective of how are you going to make a decision when you haven't heard the issue yet?i suppose most people indelibly fall into an idealogical classification but i try to avoid aligning myself with anything other than ideas.i suppose if it boiled down to it i am almost a goldwater conservative.but not really.on some things i am liberal(social programs,the enviroment),on other issues(such as states rights)i am conservative.i believe that many americans are the same and i think that is a logical approach to a political opinion(or any opinion for that matter).just try to avoid the"isms"in life and i feel you'll be level headed.actually scratch all that...i think i am something new.i am a true democratist if that is even a term.i believe in the will of the people being tantamount to all else and would abide by whatever system we decided to implement.
g.o.c

[Selatius]

18. That's fine. The terms themselves serve as guideposts at best.

You can get a room full of people who call themselves socialists, but you likely won't see too much agreement on details but more agreement on general goals and principles. It's the details and the slight differences in ideas from person to person that make such terms little more than guideposts by which we mark positions.

[marcus_aurelius]

44. actually...

not really.i disagree actually.i think to label or align oneself with an ideaology is to begin to compartmentalize and sunder the self from the whole.part of the problem with politics is the partisanship that seems to be inherent on every level.this,i believe,is fueled by political parties and sub parties to the point where you will have a small room filled with 4 people in dallas calling themselves the north texas socialist party lol.gathered and ineffective.i think the concept of being one or the other,being repulican,democrat,socialist,conservative serves to divide us on fundamental levels and create a dissonance in many areas that there would otherwise be none.not to sound aloof or condescending to what many accept as base principles of the american (and nearly all)political system(s) but i would call myself human first.you would be surprised how many,on all sides of the spectrum,put their political and cultural views before their humanity.

[Selatius]

54. Ultimately, I think labels serve a useful purpose, mainly as guideposts

While my views do not align with socialism in every way, that is more than enough to say that I am not a socialist, but I generally call myself one not because I match the definition of one, which I don't in every way, but for brevity's or convenience's sake. Otherwise, if somebody asked me to sum up my positions, I would have to give a speech on where I stand on each issue of the day. I am a human first, which is why I generally agree with socialism more than capitalism, although I do believe people should be rewarded for individual enterprise.

[newyawker99]

39. Hi Marcus_aurelius!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[Quantess]

58. No, that isn't a term.

Welcome to DU,though! :hi:
Just be sure to say "Democratic party" when grammatically appropriate. "I am a true Democrat" is correct.:-)

[marcus_aurelius]

62. not quite

lol but i'm not.i think the democratic party to be as lame duck and corrupt as the republican.i think they are two sides of the same coin and the corporationms are flipping it.in order to lull us away from the recent outrages they are going to give us a minority president so that we can think that "look we've evolved socially."but whoever it is is still going to take orders from the people that got them there.and it's almost certain,considering the ineptitudes of the presidency and congress since ww2,that they will be taking orders from the same people bush and clinton took orders from,whether they know it or not.i think it's time that we,as americans,come to terms with the fact that this system has been overcome by corruption.when we start seeing the true nature of the beast we can begin to contemplate how to combat it.

[sicksicksick_N_tired]

21. I am a Populist Progressive, which is another term for a,...

,...Democratic Socialist.

[porphyrian]

22. I don't believe in isms. I just believe in me. - n/t

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

23. Not Me. Just A Democrat Here.

[anakie]

24. anarcho-humanist and radical pacifist

letting people live however they want too as long as they do not impinge on those whose views and lifestyles differ from theirs.

I acknowledge the need of some form of government in order to provide social services such as (especially) health care, education, transport infrastructure etc. This to be funded by income tax as well as the abolition of the military complex and use the money that is now being spent in that sphere on the above social services - both nationally and internationally.

Just think what the 100 billion over the next year that will be spent funding the current fiascos could be used for.

Peace

[Lydia Leftcoast]

27. Democratic Socialist with Green leanings

I actually started out as a conservative, based on my family's Latvian and East German (and therefore anti-Soviet) background. I was for the Vietnam War until it got to be an obvious mess.

However, what really sent me leftward was experience and study: living in Japan, working in a library collection that dealt with Third World economics and politics, spending three years working temp in clerical and industrial jobs, watching as the first obvious idiot frontman (Reagan) for the rich and powerful was elected president, watching the dismantling of the liberal arts ideal of higher education, watching the bean counters and profits-at-all costs types take over the world, seeing too many unnecessary wars, watching the mean and dumb being glorified in our mass media, becoming aware of the environment, seeing the manipulation behind the Republicanites' efforts, being frustrated at the inadequacy of the Democrats' responses for the past 25 years, being disappointed at Clinton's superficiality and wimpiness, being disappointed at Gore's unwillingness to fight for himself, seeing the way both the mass media and the Democratic party marginalized Kucinich (the only candidate to speak against corporate control), swallowing my resentment and going door to door for Kerry, and seeing him concede before all the votes were counted.

I tend to vote Democratic, because they're all that's available most of the time, but my three big issues are health care, the illegal invasion and occupation of Iraq, and the environment, all of which are in a desperate state, and the mainstream/DLC bunch seem to lack any sense of urgency.

[entanglement]

56. Many, many people veered away from socialism altogether because of Stalinism

The damage done by Maoism and Stalinism to the socialist cause is immense.

[juno jones]

28. democratic-anarco-socialist..

I grew up in a fairly progressive family, my parent were those 'middle' voters that every body wants to grab, but they pretty much always voted democratic. As a kid in the late 60's, early 70's I remember volunteering time to recycling programs, league of women voters and programs for the handicapped (both of my parents work involved services for the handicapped). They considered themselves to pretty average tho and didn't identify with the hippies and radicals that were pretty much the same generation as they. I remember my dad tho, in the dark days of Reagan, hissing nearly under his breath that he was damn near convinced that socialism was a better system than capitalism. Coming out of him, a fairly conservative guy, it was an eyebrow-raising moment. I'm basically an anarchist but I love the constitution as it seems to be one of the better and more pragmatic methods of goverance.

[LeftishBrit]

29. Yes - in Britain and Europe, lots of us are socialists!

Even, nominally, Tony the Poodle. Not that he actually is one, of course.

[Taxloss]

30. Fabian socialist, not an anarchist. n/t

[Celeborn Skywalker]

31. I consider myself

a Social Democrat, but I vote pragmatically. My parents are both relatively moderate Republicans who voted for Kerry this past election. I became one through education, most specifically my college US history course where we used Howard Zinn's book as the text.

[TwilightGardener]

32. Good Old Conservative-Leaning Capitalist Democrat.

[Colobo]

33. Never have and never will. Thanks.

[Critters2]

34. Socialist

Used to be a card-carrying member of the Socialist Party, USA. I don't have a card anymore, but that's still where my heart is.

[Odin2005]

36. I'm a non-Marxist Democratic Socialist

Used a be an out-and-out Marxist-Leninist nutjob until I read The Open Society and It's Enemies ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Open_Society_and_Its_Enemies ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicism ) by the late Austrian-British philosopher Sir Karl Popper, who was himself a former Marxist, a couple years ago. He was actually quite sympathetic towards Marx and towards social justice, but though that Marx's Hegelian influences caused Marx to come to the wrong conclusion, a conclusion that led to totalitarianism and determinism.

[rebel with a cause]

37. cannot vote because

I am a socialist but do not belong to any groups. Other does not fit me either.

[Swamp Rat]

38. Why are socialists and anarchists lumped together?

That's like combining matter and anti-matter. :D

[blondeatlast]

40. Other. I think all individuals deserve a minimum standard of living,

as in reasonable shelter, food, medical care, education, and security. This should be managed through the government.

With that social security in place, then I think a firmly regulated form of capitalism is desirable.

[JanMichael]

41. Not that I've kept it a secret but I'm a Socialist.

And since you've brought it up I will give you some links that I think may have a positive effect on the future.

http://cdd.stanford.edu/polls/docs/summary/">Deliberative Polling, http://www.jefferson-center.org/">Citizens Juries and my favorite book on alternative economics http://www.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/socialism_book/">Towards a New Socialism.

And just for fun a quote by Aristotle, "it is thought to be democratic for the offices to be assigned by lot, for them to be elected is oligarchic."

Harrumph!

Have at it.

EDIT: I should add that I'm really more of a Marxist-Leninist at heart. That said Lenin really screwed up with his definition of "primitive democracy" by still using elections within the soviets which can only lead to either Aristocracy which we have now and/or Autocracy which ended up in Russia.

EDIT 2: How did I end up as a M-L Socialist? It took some time and effort. Neither my parents or grandparents are/were leftists. The parents are left leaning Democrats socially but not so much economically. Over the years this change happened. I suppose when I was 12 and watched a Somoza guard shoot a CBS reporter in the head and realized how evil those right-wing assholes were I began supporting the Sandinistas. Over time and through college I was something of a non-ideological Anarchist and since then moved to the economic left.

[rug]

42. When Nelson Rockefeller was appointed Vice President, I reevaluated politics under capitalism.

[Leopolds Ghost]

43. Radical Populist

My religious beliefs are anarchist in origin, however.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anabaptism/

On Edit: This is where Baptists come from, which is why
they used to be Social Democrats who hated Wall Street
and supported freedom of speech -- Baptists and Anabaptists
are the primary group of citizens responsible for freedom
of religion. Our nation is a lot more anti-authoritarian
in origin, than its lesser sons like to imagine.

[EdwardM]

45. Never have.

When I think of the word Socialism, I think of "collective ownership" I believe in the right to privacy and private property and Socialism has a negative connotation to it that would stop me from calling myself one.

[ConsAreLiars]

47. You are right to see that the connotations of "Socialism" are what is at issue.

You say you believe in "privacy and private property." Does that mean you want someone else to be able to own the air you need to breathe and charge for it, or demand a fee every time you change your underwear? And so on. Of course, what you really mean is that YOU want to have full access to the things that give you a decent life.

You might want to read the Communist Manifesto, a bit old, but not without insight and not as hard to read as Chaucer or Shakespeare, to distinguish between what the Corporate Media call "socialism" or "communism" and what their enemies mean by those terms. A hint to make the reading easier -- where the text says "proletarians," read "people like me." It's a bit more of a history lesson than a utopian vision, but it is worth a read for just that reason.

[EdwardM]

49. My Reply.

No, I believe in environmental regulations, and if anything is "collectively owned" it is certainly the quality of the air. I don't mean to bad mouth anybody who calls themselves socialists, but it is just not something I would call myself. I know socialist can mean different things, to different people, and perhaps whenever I hear it, it is almost always in a negative connotation. I have nothing against Karl Marx for the record and idiots like Mao and Stalin who killed in his name gave him an undeserved bad rap.

[Toucano]

51. Some people would never call themselves Liberal for the same reason.

Someone taught them to think it was bad.

[cgrindley]

46. I come from a vaguely socialist country

They're just natural values to have.

[Blue_Tires]

48. +1

[joshcryer]

50. Anarchist without adjectives.

Only way to be. :)

[gravity]

52. Anarcho Socialists is an oxymoron

It just sounds way too idealistic.

Do you just expect everyone to get along and share, without the need for laws?

[AshevilleGuy]

55. Totally.

The philosophies of anarchy and socialism are at the opposite ends of the spectrum: the former advocates no government, and the latter is described as all resources in the hands of a state. Clearly the two are mutually exclusive.

[rman]

60. Anarchism does not advocate "no government"

That's just what RW propaganda wants you to believe.

[rman]

59. Anarchism is not "without laws"

It means literally "without one single leader", as in "as little concentration of power as possible"; if we'd just have a congress, and a president without special powers, that'd be Anarchism.
Don't just take my word for it, read some political science publications not from a RW source.

[gravity]

63. That sounds like libertarianism

which is on the opposite end of the spectrum as socialism.

[toddaa]

67. Outside the US, libertarianism = socialism

Emma Goldman, Mikhail Bakhunin, Peter Kropotkin, Murray Bookchin. Any of those names ring a bell?

[rman]

68. It may be simmilar to Left-Wing Libertarianism, it's far removed from Right-Wing Libertarianism.

The latter prefers no government at all, wants to leave everything to market forces.

[Anarcho-Socialist]

72. not all forms of socialism advocate a powerful state

Also you need to remember that anarcho-socialism as a tradition predated the socialist descendant ideas of Marxism.

[Pushed To The Left]

53. I consider myself a liberal Democrat, but I came out "Socialist" on the

OKCupid political quiz!

[Quantess]

57. um....no, I don't. But I do despise Bush and neo-cons.

Tell you the truth, I never cared much about politics until,
#1 Bush was appointed president by the Supreme Court (that irritated me a little, but I was too involved with my social scene to get really upset.)
#2 The Bush administration actually went ahead to invade Iraq.

Since then, I've been infuriated to the point of saturation, in a way. I've been angry and fed up for so long, and so much, I've reached the point of saturation.

Socialists, anarchists, anarcho-socialists, please join in the fight against the horrible Bush corporate agenda.

[Dutch]

61. Democratic socialist

Much as I despair of the state of most of the modern movements calling themselves socialist, in Europe at least.

[Donald Ian Rankin]

64. Whose definition of socialism are you using?

The one whereby Ken Livingstone isnt a socialist, or the one whereby Tony Blair is?

I support universally available, free-at-point-of-use or heavily subsidised health care and education funded through general taxation.

I do not support any reduction of the rights to own private property, compulsory nationalisations of industries, or similar.

Whether or not that makes me a socialist depends on who I'm talking to.

[bread_and_roses]

65. Can't vote but probably closest to Anarcho-Syndicalist

Can't vote because I've never been formally associated with any group. Like several others, I regard the terminology as a guidepost rather than affirmation of doctrinal rigidity.

[toddaa]

66. I'm a libertarian socialist

Which I guess is the moderate position for anarcho-socialists.

[GliderGuider]

69. I'm a proud citizen of Mouseland

My family contains four generations of socialists. My grandparents were founding members of the CCF in western Canada, the precursor to the present New Democratic Party, Canada's Democratic Socialist party. The first nationally significant leader of the party was Tommy Douglas, the father of the Canadian single-payer health care system. Douglas often told a parable called "Mouseland" during his campaigns. There may be a message in it for Americans today, with their two-party government of fat cats:

Mouseland
As told by Tommy Douglas in 1944

It's the story of a place called Mouseland. Mouseland was a place where all the little mice lived and played, were born and died. And they lived much the same as you and I do.

They even had a Parliament. And every four years they had an election. Used to walk to the polls and cast their ballots. Some of them even got a ride to the polls. And got a ride for the next four years afterwards too. Just like you and me. And every time on election day all the little mice used to go to the ballot box and they used to elect a government. A government made up of big, fat, black cats.

Now if you think it strange that mice should elect a government made up of cats, you just look at the history of Canada for last 90 years and maybe you'll see that they weren't any stupider than we are.

Now I'm not saying anything against the cats. They were nice fellows. They conducted their government with dignity. They passed good laws--that is, laws that were good for cats. But the laws that were good for cats weren't very good for mice. One of the laws said that mouseholes had to be big enough so a cat could get his paw in. Another law said that mice could only travel at certain speeds--so that a cat could get his breakfast without too much effort.

All the laws were good laws. For cats. But, oh, they were hard on the mice. And life was getting harder and harder. And when the mice couldn't put up with it any more, they decided something had to be done about it. So they went en masse to the polls. They voted the black cats out. They put in the white cats.

Now the white cats had put up a terrific campaign. They said: "All that Mouseland needs is more vision." They said:"The trouble with Mouseland is those round mouseholes we got. If you put us in we'll establish square mouseholes." And they did. And the square mouseholes were twice as big as the round mouseholes, and now the cat could get both his paws in. And life was tougher than ever.

And when they couldn't take that anymore, they voted the white cats out and put the black ones in again. Then they went back to the white cats. Then to the black cats. They even tried half black cats and half white cats. And they called that coalition. They even got one government made up of cats with spots on them: they were cats that tried to make a noise like a mouse but ate like a cat.

You see, my friends, the trouble wasn't with the colour of the cat. The trouble was that they were cats. And because they were cats, they naturally looked after cats instead of mice.

Presently there came along one little mouse who had an idea. My friends, watch out for the little fellow with an idea. And he said to the other mice, "Look fellows, why do we keep on electing a government made up of cats? Why don't we elect a government made up of mice?" "Oh," they said, "he's a Bolshevik. Lock him up!" So they put him in jail.

But I want to remind you: that you can lock up a mouse or a man but you can't lock up an idea.

[Sammy Pepys]

70. old-fashioned, New Dealish Democrat.....n/t

...

[Anarcho-Socialist]

71. libertarian socialism

I am from a British working-class household. My estranged-father was a communist but became increasingly bourgeois in the 1990s. My mother and step-father never expressed themselves in strong ideological terms, but were voters for the Labour Party in its democratic socialist form before they became disenchanted with Market-Blairism.

My progression to anarcho-socialism came via democratic socialism but I gradually became disenchanted with the idea of the powerful state. Writers and philosophers such as Emma Goldman, George Orwell, Harriet Taylor, John Stuart Mill, Noam Chomsky all affected my thinking in my late teens towards libertarian socialism.

Frankly I'd love to see the end of the nation state, but that is not going to happen today, tomorrow or next week. It will not be achieved by bloody revolution, violence or invasion by a benevolent foreign power. I am a positivist in the sense that I hope that human philosophy, sustainable technology and educational levels can advance to such an extent that all can see beyond the facets of false-consciousness that seek to divide the majority for the profit of the very few. We (humanity) are not in the position to abolish the state yet, and may not be for sometime.

As long as the state needs to exist until we can progress to a new epoch it must be free from patriarchy, have a decentralised structure, guarantee our civil liberties, provide our essential services, regulate the market economy, be secular, be non-sectarian, be equal in a family of nations, and protect us from harm. This ideal of a state is what I work towards, and one which I hope that most would enjoy participating in, until such time as the state becomes irrelevant and such apparatus is not needed.

[slackmaster]

73. Anarcho-capitalist environmentalist

Do whatever you want as long as you don't trash the environment or otherwise harm others.

[yardwork]

74. I'm a democratic socialist but I vote for Democrats in the U.S.

Until we change the way that votes are counted in this country, I see no point in voting for a third party. If we had more representational voting I'd vote far to the left of the current Democratic Party.

[Nederland]

75. Never

Any system that confiscates more than 50% of my income is immoral IMHO.

[David Zephyr]

76. What about youself, Selatius? Are you a socialist, anarchist or anarcho-socialist?

Since you authored the thread, it would be instructive to know how you consider yourself with regards to these three "isms".

Have you read any or all of Peter Kropotkin's works? Or those of Mikhail Bakunin? Or those of Karl Marx?

What is your opinion of Emma Goldman? Of Alexander Berkman?

What do you think of The Wobblies?

Of Howard Zinn? Have you read his short play "Marx in Soho" which lightly covers the friction between the "isms"?

Of Noam Chomsky?

You say you are curious. I'm curious, too.