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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 05:29 PM
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Why no smoking ban for G20 summit?
Why no smoking ban for G20 summit?

It seems that for the G20 meeting hosted by Gordon Brown next week, the smoking ban will be lifted.

Is this another rule for us and one for our masters?

So much for the excuse that it was introduced to protect the health of non-smokers.

http://www.halifaxcourier.co.uk/mailbag/Why-no-smoking-ban-for.5120976.jp

LETTER: Lifting smoking ban for G20 summit is double standards
Jump to full article: East London Advertiser (uk), 2009-03-13
Author: Andy Davis, Chairman Freedom 2 Choose

Intro:

The Government is accommodating, rightly so, the political leaders from across the globe. Yet it is not prepared to accommodate millions of its own citizens.

This concession should now be made available to all private businesses and clubs for them to adopt if they desire.

The smoking ban legislation, incorporated into the 2006 Health Act, prevents smoking in all substantially enclosed public places and all work places. The Excel Exhibition Centre in Custom House falls into this category.

http://www.tobacco.org/news/280351.html
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 05:30 PM
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1. I got extra butter.
:popcorn:
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 05:32 PM
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2. OK - now deciding our economic future is something I do not want to ban smoking at
I want the thinkers to have full brain connections

Although, there is something to be said for problems being solved via "smoker's pool" (smokers who worked in Tech Support will know of what I speak)
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 05:34 PM
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3. Gee, how many of them smoke? Did they take a vote?
I really think that private smoking clubs should be allowed. Of course, they should let the people who work in them use gas masks or some other protective devices so they don't have to breathe that crap.
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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 05:49 PM
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6. Gas masks? Seriously? You would never have survived the 40'and 50's and all
of the folks that did survive are dropping like flies now,in their 70's and 80's.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 06:00 PM
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8. Uh, I DID survive them.
The old cigarettes had less shit in them--tobacco and paper, not much else.

I know a ton of people who were born in the twenties and thirties, who smoked until the sixties and seventies, when the Surgeon General started griping, and who are still alive and kicking and doing quite well. You can undo that damage, you know.
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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 06:11 PM
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9. My post was a comment regarding gas masks for people
exposed to ETS,not about smokers.

ETS may be annoying as hell,but gas masks??????

Ridiculous.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 06:56 PM
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12. I think people who have to work in areas where people are smoking in an enclosed room
should have the right to some sort of breathing apparatus to prevent them from breathing poisoned air.

That was the point I made in my post, where I brought up the "gas mask" aspect in the first place.

What is an ETS? Educational Testing Systems? Evangelical Theological Society? Electronic Transaction System? Emissions Trading Scheme?

All of the above are known by "ETS." Some of them stink, too. What did you mean by it?

It helps conversation when you write out an abbreviation at least once before you use it.

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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 07:14 PM
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14. Sorry! Environmental Tobacco Smoke. I'll think before I post from
now on.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 07:30 PM
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16. It's more than annoying. Flight attendants who spent decades in
enclosed cabins with smokers, who were non-smokers themselves, suffered serious health effects from secondhand smoke.

http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/March07/WCMC.smoke.html

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4180/is_20020710/ai_n10067906

I don't think it's much of an issue outside, really, but indoors without serious fans is not a good idea, and even at that, I think anyone serving smokers should be entitled to some kind of mask to protect themselves if they'd like one.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 05:34 PM
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4. Double-click. Pardon. nt
Edited on Mon Mar-30-09 05:35 PM by MADem
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Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 05:41 PM
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5. Tobacco is from the devil.
:smoke:
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 05:51 PM
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7. Yep, and the fundies are out to save us. What would we do without their concern?
:rofl:
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Sezu Donating Member (920 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 06:42 PM
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11. Uh, my Lord and master asked me to let everyone know
Edited on Mon Mar-30-09 06:42 PM by Sezu
that there is NO smoking down there except for him and some of his best friends. "Whatta ya think this is," he said, "A G20 Conference or something?"
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 06:33 PM
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10. OMG how much more ignorant can we get?
jebus

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Holly_Hobby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 07:07 PM
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13. They're shutting off their traffic cameras too
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 07:29 PM
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15. This is most curious and disturbing - shutting off security cameras for the summit
.
.
.

something smells funny/rotten here -

The timing is bad, and the discrepancy of the "requirement" is very small

From your link:

"Under the legislation, traffic cameras must be capable of recording at 720 x 576 pixels, an analogue broadcast standard.

Westminster's wireless network of road cameras, introduced last year, is the only fully digital traffic enforcement system operating in the UK, and is regarded as one of the most advanced in the world. But its picture quality is only 704 x 576 pixels."

ALSO from the link:

"These are not just parking enforcement cameras, they're for public order and we've got the G20 world leaders coming. This is a complete disaster."
____________________________________________________________________

Something is wrong here . . . .


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Holly_Hobby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 07:31 PM
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17. I agree...completely n/t
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 07:33 PM
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18. What bureaucratic NITWITS!!! IDIOTS!!!!
The council only discovered last week that images from its newly installed £15m traffic cameras do not meet the quality required under the Traffic Management Act, which comes into force on 1 April.



Get the Hubble telescope people in there to work out a fix.

What idiots.
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