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Mr. Ected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 12:34 PM
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Reid Tells Liberals To "Back Off"
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said Friday that liberal groups targeting moderate Democrats with ads should back off, saying pressure from the left wing of his party won't be helpful to enacting legislation.

"I think it's very unwise and not helpful," Reid said Friday morning. "These groups should leave them alone. It’s not helpful to me. It’s not helpful to the Democratic Caucus.”

Reid, who said he hadn’t seen or heard the ads, added that "most of run very few ads — they only to do it to get a little press on it."

MoveOn.org and Americans United for Change, the labor-backed organization that serves as the White House’s chief third-party operation, have started separate ad campaigns targeting moderate House and Senate Democrats to back Obama’s budget. A number of liberal activists have expressed concerns about a group of 16 Senate Democratic moderates who have been meeting in an attempt to bolster their influence.

Reid has no qualms about the group, and said that “any public statements” Senate moderates have made have been helpful as the chamber takes up a budget next week that would cost more than $3 trillion. And he added: “Some people of course go to those meetings so they can issue a press release back home that'll make them appear more moderate.”

“I’m not one who is going to be driven by people on the extremes, saying it’s only my way or no way,” Reid said. “That’s not the way legislation works.”

Reid's comments came at a wide-ranging breakfast briefing hosted by the Christian Science Monitor, where the Nevada Democrat expressed confidence that Democrats would pick up seats in the Senate next cycle, said he raised $2 million in the last quarter for his 2010 reelection and acknowledged that efforts to enact health care legislation have been temporarily set back by the loss of Tom Daschle as Health and Human Services secretary.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0309/20559.html



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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 12:36 PM
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1. Do your job Harry, you fucking spineless piece of shit
Or resign and let someone capable take your place. :grr:
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 12:45 PM
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16. Heh
The Liberals are getting under his skin. If we were enemies he wouldn't even mention us. Since we're kinda friends with him he's got to mention us.

Now some of the criticism here is a bit harsh. Its not like Reid has control of a whole lot, and there is that whole herding cats issue that we Dems have always faced.

Anyway, take all of it as a measure of success!
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Thickasabrick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 07:11 PM
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110. You mirror my thoughts n/t
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 12:37 PM
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2. With all due respect Sen. Reid, you can STFU
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LeFleur1 Donating Member (973 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 12:43 PM
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13. We are Living What Happens...
...when Democrats back down. This mess began and was pushed to the brink by Republicans but they had very little stand up opposition from Democrats in Congress. So what are we to do? Just sit back and allow more of the same?

When I see Republican Senators and Representatives standing in front of TV cameras, showing their faces, and talking about what we SHOULD do, it makes me very very afraid. They were in power for eight years. No Democratic Senator or Representative stood up and fought very loudly against them, there was not a blasting call to arms, during the first six years or the next two, when the hanky panky continued.

Liberals and those who support our Constitution and a government of the people, by the people and for the people cannot allow that to happen again. The least we can do is make some noise about it.
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 01:25 PM
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46. I like what you said... we can't just sit back and pretend everything is ok...
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 12:38 PM
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3. Hey Harry
Fuck you!
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 12:38 PM
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4. Liberals to Reid "Fuck off you spineless bastard"
Edited on Fri Mar-27-09 12:39 PM by truebrit71
..with Dems like him, who needs republicans?

He is absolutely useless and couldn't lead himself out of a room without a map and directions, never mind lead the Senate....He continues to be a ball-less embarassment...

Why can't we have someone like Boxer or Feingold? You know...LIBERALS....!!!
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 12:42 PM
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11. Boxer!!! How great to have Women leading the House and the Senate!!!
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 12:51 PM
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21. We already know she has bigger balls than Harry..
.. ;-)

I thnk she would ROCK as the Senate leader...
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 06:42 PM
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108. absolutely!!
:thumbsup: :hi:
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 04:44 PM
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84. I'll sign on to that. Boxer is a great choice.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 12:39 PM
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5. For someone as worthless as Harry Reid it's really laughable that
he tell the people who pay his salary, and who sent him to represent them (something he's not done)to be quiet.

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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 12:40 PM
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6. Does that mean he wants us to stop writing checks
and volunteering for campaigns as well? No problem.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 12:41 PM
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7. Someone has to convince spineless conservadems...
...to join the main stream where most of the public and the President are.
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 12:41 PM
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8. Two things here
I see we continue to link to rightwing sites like Politico.com.

Two, if Harry Reid said to back off, I say "fuck you" to Mr. Milquetoast. We have the majority, let's make the most of it. Apparently Massa Reid is continuing the tradition of sucking up to the Thugs instead of listening to the left.
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Mr. Ected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 12:49 PM
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20. Apologies For the Source of the News
But the Reid quotes would be the same coming from a progressive site.
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wroberts189 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 04:54 PM
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93. "Mr. Milquetoast" haha ..yep thats him. nt
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 12:41 PM
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9. Democrat and Liberal should be synonymous at this point in time.
Those who call themselves Democrats and do not consider themselves Liberal, should be voted out of office.
I think their "moderateness" should be brought to everyone's attention.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 12:42 PM
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10. What do you think, folks. Should we back off?
:rofl:
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 12:45 PM
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17. No . Here's contact information for the White House.
Bombard them with email. That would make them sit up and listen.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 12:43 PM
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12. And Fuck you, Harry
The American people voted for change. Now we know why.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 12:44 PM
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14. He's also demanding that moderate, pro Obama DEMS to back off as well.
Reid should stop siding with conservatives and Republicans and start listening to the people who elected DEMS in 2008.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 12:44 PM
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15. Reid needs to go. Denying any group their freedom of speech is very
totalitarian thinking IMHO.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 12:49 PM
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19. What kind of twisted logic gets you from saying something is "not helpful" to "denying freedom" and
totalitarianism?

Drama queen much?
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 01:06 PM
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35. Correct- he is not denying free speech- he is merely asserting that he doesn't care to listen to it.
Unless the speech comes from a conservative in the Senate, that is.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 07:13 PM
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111. No drama with this queen, just the obvious truth. n/t
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Hawkowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 12:46 PM
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18. It is WORKING
Keep the pressure on! They must be feeling the heat if Reid is starting to whine. Keep calling, keep writing, keep screaming at these corrupt fucks.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 01:11 PM
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40. That's how I read it
I hope people will make sure constituents get facts at the same time.
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wroberts189 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 04:43 PM
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83. good point. nt
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 12:52 PM
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22. Damn the DLC!
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 12:53 PM
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23. I'm sure "politico" was too happy to report this.
Call us what you want, Harry-with-your-big-stick, but what we want is more in line with the Constitution than what your agenda is. "Working together" won't give us accountability for the biggest crooks in this nation's history, nor will it give us better health care insurance, more jobs, prevent outsourcing, allow unions, or give us back the money we lost on our 401ks.

We voted you into office under the "Democrat" label, so act like one. These last few elections in which the Democrats won an amazing majority were not the result of your meekness -- it was the result of our having had enough of what you're trying to continue. You have a clear mandate; act like it & do what's best for the people -- not for the corporations who have stepped on us for the past 8 years.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 12:56 PM
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24. Reid presents a very logical and valid point. Some of the 16 Senators may have joined the group to
ease the 'minds' of those folks back home. I live in an extremely 'red' state that has two US Senators in that 'moderate Democratic' group. If they give any indication of siding with the 'left', there is an uproar here. Yet they do end up voting the 'leftist' way a good part of the time.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 01:01 PM
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31. Then let them become Republicans if their states want them to be.
Don't let them make believe to be Democrats anymore.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 01:20 PM
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44. You guys in Florida have Nelson. Would you really like to turn the Senate majority over to the GOP?
58 minus 16 equals 42.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 01:39 PM
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53. WTH is the difference now?
They want to give the power back to the Republicans, so I really don't give a damn right now.

Bill Nelson IS a Republican.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 01:41 PM
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54. How about having DEMS stand with the President- then everyone wins.
Why in the world is "We must side with minority conservatives and oppose Obama or we lose the senate" our main option all of a sudden?
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 02:26 PM
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64. Who said that? As I said in my first post here, both of my 'moderate' Senators vote the
majority of the time with the Democrats from the left wing.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 02:59 PM
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71. In that case, why oppose Obama at all then? Why is Reid attacking even Obama's moderate supporters?
Edited on Fri Mar-27-09 03:15 PM by Dr Fate
I thought you were indicating that if we don't let the conservatives oppose Obama's moderate agenda as they see fit, then we will lose seats in FLA, etc.

My take is that Democrats should support the President-and then everyone wins.

Reid shouldn't be telling even moderate Obama supporters to "back off"- Reid should stand with Obama and Obama's supporters- I know, I know, that would be "far left, crazy Liberal stuff."
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 03:32 PM
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78. I have no idea what you and several others here are talking about. Moderate Democrats, and even
conservative Democrats, have existed for decades. They do run against Republicans.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 03:41 PM
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79. Can we agree that Reid/Blue Dogs should support our President and stop attacking Obama's supporters?
Edited on Fri Mar-27-09 03:45 PM by Dr Fate
As it is, Reid seems to be sticking up for conservatives who are attacking Obama's budget- while trying to vilify moderates and liberals who are active in supporting Obama's budget.

Obama is a moderate Democrat- and the conservative democrats and Republicans are attacking him and his supporters.

As a moderate, I side with the President.

I reject Reid's dishonest notion that Obama's supporters are somehow "extreme", while DEMS siding with conservatives are somehow "moderate."

I'm not sure what is unclear to you- but as long as you support the President and his supporters over these conservatives, then fine.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 03:09 PM
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74. If their voters knew that they really WERE Republicans they'd not vote for them!
Edited on Fri Mar-27-09 03:24 PM by cascadiance
The problem is that these 16 senators are even more disingenuous than Republicans are in their constituencies. They try to make it sound like they're Democrats to many voters that don't take the time to measure details, and in fact work against their interests once elected. Many of them would have a hard time getting elected if they ran as Republicans, especially if they had to face a REAL Democrat that talked about REAL issues affecting most Americans and not the faux emotional issues that their corporate lobbies want them to emphasize instead to distract them from the issues that are killing most Americans to favor the corporations that sponsor them.

No, if Reid doesn't want to listen to us, at some point the gloves come off and it becomes war, and these frauds will get exposed for the frauds that they are and we can get some real Democrats to run in their place. Folks like Paul Hackett should be the template in those "red areas" where they might favor some of the issues that conservatives favor (like gun ownership, etc.), but stand for the PEOPLE, not the corporations when it comes to the important issues. It's no wonder that the so-called moderate Dems pushed Hackett out way at the beginning. They wouldn't want a REAL moderate to expose them for the corporate frauds they are and be an example to other red areas that want REAL moderate Democrats representing them.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 03:13 PM
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75. Thank you for crystalizing my thoughts. n/t
n/t
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 01:04 PM
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33. Could be- but after watching them cave to the GOP for 8 years, no one trusts them anymore.
We have seen how the "Blue Dog" strategies almost always wind up helping conservatives more than true moderates.

When we here a conservative talking about "compromise"- it generally translates into- "we need to give the people who are wrong about everything what they want again- keep your powder dry-maybe the people who have been right on the issues will get something next time."
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wroberts189 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 04:44 PM
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85. I heard they were all from states that voted for Obama nt
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 04:53 PM
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91. These are excuses, not actual arguments. n/t
n/t
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 12:57 PM
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25. Oh I'll Leave Them Alone - Come Re-Election
time. Or in our case in Colorado - "election" time for Michael Bennet who was handed this powerful gig by our Governor who didn't listen to the voters of Colorado at all. He asks for who we wanted and picked a guy no one even considered.

I'll leave them alone when they ask me to phone bank, canvas or donate.

I'm really sick of putting my self out there for Senate Dems who either, switch parties (Nightmare Campbell)or swear they won't switch parties but perform more like a republican vs democrat(Salazar) Now we have Mark Udall who was portrayed as a "Boulder liberal" but acts more like a Colorado Springs conservative.

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booley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 12:58 PM
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26. Don't recall being quiet helping all that much
Maybe if guys like Reid didn't keep disappointing us, we wouldn't feel the need to keep pressuring him.

Fro all their faults, conservatives did understand the importance of making sure the GOP didn't take them for granted.
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 12:59 PM
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27. Harry.
Edited on Fri Mar-27-09 12:59 PM by Fovea
Your fecklessness during the bush years is a violation of your oath to defend the constitution.

Where, exactly, do you get off telling us, who were right and screaming bloody murder while you were dancing
prima ballerina in Swine Lake, to shut up?
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 01:00 PM
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28. I am glad he came right out and said that. He makes the point for me.
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/3805

Their goal is to enable Republicans and keep us in line.

Glad he just openly said it....shows their true goals.
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 01:01 PM
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29. Here's a lollipop, Harry.
Edited on Fri Mar-27-09 01:02 PM by Zenlitened
You don't want all the noise and commotion of angry peasants outside your gate? Then heed a few of the peasants' demands now and then.

Does this man know nothing about governing? He's obviously not the sort to keep Machiavelli or Sun-Tzu on his nightstand for bedtime reading. But has he ever thumbed through a history book of any sort?

:shrug:

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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 01:01 PM
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30. I hope Harry has a serious stroke or something
or better yet, a strong progressive primaries him into retirement in 2010
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 01:02 PM
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32. harry, you're such a rebel
:sarcasm:
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 01:04 PM
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34. Senate Majority Leader to We The People: "Sit Down and SHUT THE FUCK UP!" n/t
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 01:07 PM
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36. Harry's got us, folks, since Nancy took Impeachment "off the table." They don't care about "extreme"
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 01:14 PM
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41. Except the Obama agenda is not extreme- it is truly moderate.
And it is conservatives who oppose it, not moderates.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 01:22 PM
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45. okay, are we talking about the same thing?
“I’m not one who is going to be driven by people on the extremes, saying it’s only my way or no way,” Reid said. “That’s not the way legislation works.”
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 01:38 PM
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50. I disagree with Reid that Obama supporters are somehow "extreme" or even necessarily "liberal."
Edited on Fri Mar-27-09 01:43 PM by Dr Fate
Many-if not most Obama supporters are truly moderate- while the Blue Dogs are holding on to same , old-time conservative positions they held when they were supporting Bush on certain issues.

I think these conservatives in the senate feel the need to characterize any opposition to them as "extreme" or "liberal" as a cover.

To me, it's the Blue Dogs and other conservatives who truly are exibiting the "my way or no way" attitude.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 02:00 PM
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57. well put, TY, n/t
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 02:24 PM
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63. I find ....
...Trickle Down Bailouts of the Wall Street Bankers, escalating the WAR in Afghanistan, and maintaining the Bush "Unitary Executive" to be pretty Conservative.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 03:01 PM
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72. Then you oppose both Reid and Obama- fair enough.
I was focusing on Obama's budget and conservative oppostion to it.
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Two Americas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 05:32 PM
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105. not the way it works
In a representative democracy, disagreeing with an elected official is not "opposing" them.

This logic is in error:

You are making critical remarks about a politician > therefore, you are opposing politician > therefore, you are on the other team > therefore, you should be quiet, or you should not be listened to


...
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 01:07 PM
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37. Uh-huh. "Off the table", "Too Liberal", "Keeping our powder dry"
And, the ever popular, "Not as bad".
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 03:17 PM
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76. Harry finally dips into that Dry Powder Keg, only to blast his own party
Great
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 04:55 PM
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94. Not just his own party-he attacks those who voice support for Obama's moderate economic agenda. n/t
Edited on Fri Mar-27-09 04:59 PM by Dr Fate
n/t
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 01:07 PM
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38. Wait until 2010 and 2012, Harry. Let's see what you say then.
After all you sure do need us nasty leftist liberals then.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 01:11 PM
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39. Educate on the policies
As long as the ads focus on educating people - no way we should back off. If they are just attack ads, then that isn't helpful.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 01:16 PM
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42. Is Reid trying to say that Obama supporters are all extreme Liberals?
Edited on Fri Mar-27-09 01:17 PM by Dr Fate
While those opposed to Obama and agreeing with Republicans are the true moderates?

What exactly is the underlying message here?
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wroberts189 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 04:46 PM
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86. Thats the message I got. nt
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 01:17 PM
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43. lol.... sure we will
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 01:29 PM
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47. I am in Nevada and I will not vote for him again...
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wroberts189 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 04:53 PM
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92. Thx ..lets hope for a strong primary challenger. nt
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 01:36 PM
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48. Mr. Reid, Sir, Needs To Tell These 'Boll Weevils' To Stand By The President And The Party
President Obama's budget must pass the Senate in the form it was submitted, and Mr. Reid's job is to make that happen....
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 02:11 AM
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115. That is exactly as I see it
Rather than attempting to silence citizens, Reid should be getting the Senate in order to support President Obama's policies.
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 01:37 PM
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49. Save the "back off" advice for someone who deserves it. Like Evan Fucking Bayh!
You want help enacting legislation?! Get your own fucking place in order first!
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tonysam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 02:10 PM
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61. As I've Said, Evan is an Embarrassment in Light of His Father, Birch,
who was and is a great liberal and served the country with distinction before being defeated by the idiot Dan Quayle.
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 01:39 PM
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51. He can just kiss ass.
Useless !@#$!@#$!
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 01:39 PM
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52. I think Reid owes us an apology! 202-224-3542, you know what to do...
The way I figure, if Rush Limbaugh and his dittohead hordes can get Michael Steele to apologize, we can get Harry Reid to apologize.

Make the phone call.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 01:52 PM
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55. In the interest of truth, Harry Reid apparently did not say "back off."
That is a quote of what Politico said.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 01:54 PM
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56. oh then I guess what those groups are doing is working.
Edited on Fri Mar-27-09 01:59 PM by bdamomma
putting a thorn on the side of Harry Reid maybe a donation is warranted to those organizations.

is Harry Reid really for these conservadems??? that is another question, and there is no way that our voices should not be heard, damn the Congress, they are our biggest problem and also to Obama.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 02:02 PM
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58. "pressure from the left wing of his party won't be helpful to enacting legislation."
Sad, but he is right. Our party is so far in corporate pockets now that very little the rest of us say matters.

"Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said Friday that liberal groups targeting moderate Democrats with ads should back off, saying pressure from the left wing of his party won't be helpful to enacting legislation.

"I think it's very unwise and not helpful," Reid said Friday morning. "These groups should leave them alone. It’s not helpful to me. It’s not helpful to the Democratic Caucus.”

Reid, who said he hadn’t seen or heard the ads, added that "most of run very few ads — they only to do it to get a little press on it."

MoveOn.org and Americans United for Change, the labor-backed organization that serves as the White House’s chief third-party operation, have started separate ad campaigns targeting moderate House and Senate Democrats to back Obama’s budget. A number of liberal activists have expressed concerns about a group of 16 Senate Democratic moderates who have been meeting in an attempt to bolster their influence."

They are not meeting to bolster their influence...they are meeting to empower the Republicans again.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 02:40 PM
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67. The Left certainly won't be helpful in enacting legislation....
...that codifies, legitimizes, and subsidizes the GIANT Health Insurance Industries.

....that continues the spending of Our Children's Future on Trickle Down Bailouts of the Wall Street Bankers.

...that digs us deeper into the quagmire in the Middle East.

...that diverts MORE of our money into the MIC.

... that enhances the power of the Unitary Executive.

...ANY activity that turns a blind eye on the criminal excesses of the Bush Administration.

Harry's RIGHT!
I won't be helpful in ANY of THAT SHIT.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 02:07 PM
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59. Perhaps if the right wing groups weren't given so much time and attention...
and perhaps if the Democrats in DC could remember what the Democratic Party stands for, then maybe the left wing groups wouldn't have to push so damn hard to get their voices heard. Reaching across the aisle while ignoring your own doesn't make much sense. Just a thought.

:banghead:
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 02:09 PM
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60. oh crap why doesn't Americans united for change have
Edited on Fri Mar-27-09 02:10 PM by bdamomma
"country" listed for donations. Since they are doing such a good job getting under Harry's skin I would like to give a donation.

why is he criticizing the organizations if he hasn't even seen the ads???

"Reid, who said he hadn’t seen or heard the ads, added that "most of run very few ads — they only to do it to get a little press on it."
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 02:22 PM
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62. As a member of MoveOn, I want to wish Mr Reid a hearty "Fuck You!"! nt
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 02:31 PM
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65. Sorry, Harry.
I will be working with MoveOn, and participating and donating to InterNet based movements to finance and support Primary challenges to the Blue Dogs/DLC. If we are successful in targeting several of the worst offenders, and organizing/focusing our national financial POWER, then we will be a voice that cannot be ignored by the Democratic Party any longer.

Watch Out, Harry.
YOU may be next on the LIST.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 02:32 PM
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66. With liberals, he feels quite free to talk tough
Where's that tough act with the GOP? Where's that been for the last few years, Harry?
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Mr. Ected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 02:40 PM
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68. It's A Symbiotic Relationship, Harry Reid and the GOP
And the GOP and Harry Reid.

Perfect symmetry.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 02:41 PM
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69. He couldn't talk tough to the GOP because he had their dicks in his mouth.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 02:42 PM
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70. Reid needs to back off...
It was the "liberals" that put this President in the White House.
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Oak2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 03:06 PM
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73. Harry inspires me! And I've just told him that!
(e-mail I just sent to his office)

Dear. Senator Reid:

In honor of your complaints that liberals should "back off" our challenges to corporate-owned Democrats, I'm making a donation to the Accountability Project, a project dedicated to finding and funding primary challengers to corporate-owned Democrats.

Elements of the Democratic Party have spent decades serving the interests of business and aiding the Republicans in undermining the poor, working, and middle classes in this country. They, as much as the Republicans, are at fault for the crises we face. Citizens (I don't usually call myself a "liberal", but I'll proudly don the label if that's what you want to call me and others like me) are fed up with business as usual, and we intend to put a stop to this, one way or another.

Whether you know it or not, you have become a national symbol of all that is wrong with the Democratic Party. Your complaints about us citizens-- er, "liberals"-- amounts to proof you and your fellow corporatists and capitulators are feeling the heat. For once, you've been an inspiration to me and others-- an inspiration to KEEP PUSHING.

Business as usual is over. It's high time you and those you defend understand this.
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 03:20 PM
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77. Good on you!
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wroberts189 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 05:08 PM
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100. Great idea... I think I will too. nt
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Jazzgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 04:34 PM
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80. Harry......
Fuck you and bite me!
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wroberts189 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 04:40 PM
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81. So now we are all extremists and should STFU. Unbelievable.


So called "moderate" blue dog DINO dems led by Leiberman ..who spoke at the pub convention against Obama ..promise to sabotage or strip down Obama's agenda.

We say ok... well we do not agree and will express it.

What we have no free speech ?

“I’m not one who is going to be driven by people on the extremes, saying it’s only my way or no way,” Reid said."

Extremes??? "my way or no way" What the hell is he talking about? The American people who elected Obama in a landslide?

Did he miss the past 8 years of the Bush admin's extremist attack on the Constitution?

How do we get a new senate leader?


knr
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 04:42 PM
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82. Looking forward to seeing Reid go down to defeat in 2010
In the long run it's much better for the party than having his incompetence on display every day.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 04:47 PM
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87. oh, so now we are EXTREME????
Because we want things like, jobs, healthcare, basic rights, a roof over our heads, food? That makes you a fucking mainstream corporatist whore. And you are fuckin asshole reid!

:puke:
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 04:48 PM
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88. Apparently Obama himself is "extreme" to conservatives like Reid. n/t
n/t
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wroberts189 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 05:04 PM
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98. Funny how they never specifically define that word...


Or exactly what is moderate about these conservadems. Is a moderate speaking at the RNC convention against Obama like Lieberman did?

At least we see their true colors.
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wroberts189 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 04:48 PM
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89. Can you ever imagine a republican majority leader saying that to their base? nt
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 04:52 PM
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90. One just did. n/t
n/t
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wroberts189 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 04:58 PM
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95. But not when they were in power...? nt
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 05:00 PM
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96. We appear to have a conservative Majority leader who is in power.
Sorry, I was attempting to be funny again.
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wroberts189 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 05:06 PM
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99. HAHA..good joke... Sorry I did not get it ... nt
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zorahopkins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 05:03 PM
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97. Harry: Is It OK With You If I Say This?????
Hey, Harry Reid (that sort of sounds almost obscene, doesn't it?):

Is it OK with you if I say that the US should GET OUT OF AFGHANISTAN -- NOW!

You, Harry, should be doing all you can to bring our troops back home, and out of that awful quagmire in Afghanistan.

We are the invaders and the occupiers there -- WHY IN THE WORLD are we sending MORE American troops to die in that far off land?

War IS NOT the answer.

Peace. Now. Get our troops home. NOW!
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 05:15 PM
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101. Like Liberals are some whacked out radical terrorist group....
Edited on Fri Mar-27-09 05:15 PM by MzNov
instead of intelligent members of the Democratic Party. This is the crap that makes me insane. Assclowns like Harry Reid and his Conservadem phoney bastards act like liberals don't belong on the face of the earth, when in fact liberals and progressives seem to be getting it right and have been getting it right, no matter what the issue. Even worse, the progressive caucus is not very loud and aggressive on any issue.

Therefore, we need you MoveOn.org, Progressive Democrats of America, Courage Campaign, Act Blue, and all the other groups Harry Reid seems to think are trying to ruin his little circle jerk of Senate old boy network.

$25 of my hard earned money just went to Move.on today. They aren't cowards, unlike this worthless piece of bat squeeze in the Senate and his Bush loving colleagues, Bayh, Casey, et al. and while we're at it, GO TO HELL JOHN McCAIN, you scum sucking bastard.

Sigh.

:rant: added
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 05:24 PM
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104. He is not attacking "liberals" per se- he is also attacking moderates who support Obama's budget.
Obama's budget is actually quite moderate.

Despite Reid's dishonest characterization, it is hardly just "Liberals" and "extremists" who want the Blue Dogs to stand with the President.

Reid is just calling Obama supporters "extreme liberals" in an effort to marginalize those who expect Democrats to support the President.

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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 05:55 PM
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106. If Obama's budget is so moderate

then why all the uproar with the R-lites and Conservadems like Reid et al?

Sorry, not buying it. This is Harry's MO.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 05:21 PM
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102. I think Harry is unwise, and not very helpful to
the people who make up this nation, myself.

:thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 05:24 PM
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103. I see Politico is spining BS again.
Why do DUers link to that disgusting site?
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 06:44 PM
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109. It quotes Harry Reid's own words.
Which is all you need to know.

Politico is not perfect, but they are partnered with Reuters, not perfect either.

Harry Reid says we are doing the party no favor.
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steven johnson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 06:13 PM
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107. Get Out of the Kitchen if You Can't Take the Heat
After eating Republican Shit-Burgers for the last 16 years, we need a cook with some balls! Grow a pair, Harry, or get out of Nancy Pelosi's way. She has a pair.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 07:56 PM
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112. How Long Before he Gets his Ass Kicked In Nevada's Next Senatorial Election?
Goddamn, I hope somebody runs against him in a primary. Shit, I'll move to Nevada, and run my damn self!
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Hansel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 08:30 PM
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113. Sorry Harry, this is a democracy.
If you can't deal with it there are probably better jobs for you.

Who does he think he is telling the American people to STFU? Why do these SOBs think it's perfectly acceptable to try to stop the progressive base from exercising their rights to participate in this government. It's bad enough when people on the right do it. It's repulsive when Democrats do.

Is Harry so out of control of his caucus that he can't reign these fools in? If so, it's time for him to step down.

I'm sorry but the way that Democratic politicians treat their base pisses me off to no end. It is though we are the bastard step children of the U.S. It's just disgusting.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 10:55 PM
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114. Harry just don't get it. It does no good to pick-up more Democratic seats if they vote republiCon.
And is Harry saying that Moveon.org represents the left of the party?
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