Pelosi will fast-track healthcare bill

[babylonsister]

Firt I've read about Pelosi, but I think Reid is saying the same thing. It's all good.


Pelosi will fast-track healthcare bill


WASHINGTON, March 26 (UPI) -- U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Thursday that she still wants to fast-track healthcare reforms this year.

Politico reported that the California Democrat said she will use a procedural move to jump start the legislative process for the bill, despite opposition from the chairman of the Senate Finance Committee, Sen. Max Baucus, D-Mont.

"I believe it's absolutely essential that we come out of this year with a substantial healthcare reform," Pelosi told reporters. "I believe that is best served by having reconciliation in the package."

Politico noted that reconciliation is a process for approving tax or budget proposals combined with spending cuts or revenue increases. Legislation passed by the process requires only a simple majority in the Senate.

Politico said Senate Republicans have called Pelosi's plan the "nuclear option" because it would kill a GOP filibuster. :applause:

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http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2009/03/26/Pelosi_will_fast-track_healthcare_bill/UPI-56561238110047/

[BeFree]

1. There she goes again...

...Trying to make Liberals happy. Boy, they musta got under her skin, eh?

Health care bill? Fastracked? Run right over the Rushicans? Who does she think she is? There's no way she can get this done, the liberals don't support her!

[loudsue]

21. It's bullshit. She's going to make sure the insurance companies make a killing, on our dime,

AND make sure that the dems can say that they've fixed health care without substantially raising taxes .... all by the next election.

Pelosi has NOT been a supporter of populist, and traditionally democratic party, ideals. She has been sold out to the corporate masters.

[BeFree]

23. Hard to argue that

But we do have a different power structure these days, and I have, at times, been pleasantly surprised by Dem actions. And, do trust, somewhat, what the Dems can and probably will do.

Taken in the light that Health Care is stalled, and the pubbies like it like that, any movement that we Dems can make has to be an improvement. Eh?

[bvar22]

26. If the bill does NOT include a ...

...Public Non-Profit Option, then it is NOT Health Care Reform.
If she wants to "Fast Track HealthCare", there is already a bill in Congress with 75 co-sponsors...HR-676.
Remove the age restrictions from MediCare.

Or did they already spend all of America's money "Bailing Out" Wall Street MIllionaires ?

Now we got Your Children's Money too !
And there is not a fucking thing you can do about it !
Now THATS Bi-Partisanship".
Better get used to it !
Hahahahahahahahahahaha!

[Adelante]

2. Good for her

:thumbsup:

[pnutbutr]

3. hopefully

she won't push it too fast. Something as big as this needs to be looked at very closely for every possible problem that may arise. This pushing shit through in a hurry needs to stop. It's how we got the patriot act among others.

[BeFree]

14. That needs to stop

Any comparison of the good Dems do with the inherent bad things that pubbies do, should stop. There is no comparison to be made. Nothing the Dems have ever pushed through even comes close to half the crap the pubbies shoved on us.

In other words, we can trust the Dems most of the time. And this issue has stalled. It must be moved along. It needs a big push. Lets do it. Lets get it moving in the right direction, finally.

[pnutbutr]

16. respectfully disagree

Pushing anything through without giving it the proper attention to every detail can result in problems no matter who it comes from. I don't trust anything that gets pushed or forced through with speed. Like anything in life you need to take your time and make sure it is correct so you don't have to go back in later to fix the problems that could have easily been avoided. It also provides more time for the public to become aware of exactly what is being made into law. Fast track shit needs to stop from both sides.

[BeFree]

18. Inertia

Is the biggest problem after the fact that the health care situation is THE problem.

What you are suggesting is more piddling around. And comparing what pubbies do to what our Dems do. Maybe you haven't been watching politics too long? Here's a little secret: Big Things happen in big time moves.

Take the Patriot act, (please!) it was a big time thing, done in a big move. That's how present day politics works. Not my design, and I don't like it, but it's reality.

We need to get moving on health care, and we can depend on our Dems to move it in the right direction. Let's back them all the way and get something going. HC a very bad and festering problem that will not be solved by this bill or the next. But a bill pushed by the Dems will be better, right?

Can I get a witness?

[pnutbutr]

20. both do the same things

It's a problem in Washington. They either fight about something so long it's gets stale and rots or they force it through at light speed. Big things happen in big moves....Big problems happen in big moves, especially when you don't take the time to understand every aspect of the move.

We end up with half assed legislation that nobody fully understands when it gets rammed through before the public and even congress gets to read it, let alone understand it. Unintended consequences arise, interpretation becomes an issue and a whole host of other possible problems.

I'd like to see a health care bill also but I want to be sure it's gonna work and be right the first time.

[BeFree]

22. Well

You can wish in one hand and crap in the other, and see which one fills up first.

You seem to miss my point.... being this: when Dems do things, they turn out pretty good. Are you disagreeing with me? Do you really equate what we do with what they do?

[pnutbutr]

24. didn't miss it

As a democrat you see positive from democrats and negative from republicans based on your political ideology. This makes your point flawed from an objective point of view.

[BeFree]

25. Flawed?

The wisdom of the years and the observations of a lifetime are flawed?

I don't know what planet you are from, but here, Dems are the 'positive' party. Like night and day.

[pnutbutr]

27. apparently :eyes:

[BeFree]

28. Eyes?

What is your position? Do you not have any trust in the Dems? You think the two parties are the same? That is what Nader said and he's been proven wrong.

Sorry to have suggested you were from another planet, that was harsh. But I am somewhat non-plussed by the responses from you, you do understand, eh?

[pnutbutr]

32. that's all

As a democrat I prefer democratic ideals, as an objective observer congress as a whole is f'd. That's all I was saying.

[BeFree]

34. Well

Dems have good control of congress for what, 2 months now? And you are ready to write them off already?

Do you remember the good things that happened the last time we had both congress and the WH?

[Stinky The Clown]

4. Good strategy .... but what, exactly, is in "The Bill"?

Easy to pass a bill that, at its core, is exactly what we have now. :eyes:

[patrice]

6. HR 676? = extension of Medicare benefits to cover more folks. And there's another one

that I don't know that much about, other than it is based upon Senator Kennedy's model.

[babylonsister]

8. If it's exactly as we have now, we wouldn't need a bill, would we.

:eyes:

Look it up. I will.

Edit to add: I posted this because I read yesterday she wasn't in to fast-tracking anything, so she's changed her tune.

[Stinky The Clown]

9. I have "looked it up". I have "looked it up" endlessly ..... there is no bill

No specifics. The closest we got to specifics was in Obama's remarks yesterday, which I posted.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5336344

[dflprincess]

30. The health insurance pacs must have sent large checks to her campaign fund (eom)

[patrice]

5. Medicare cuts + "Defense" cuts = Reconciliation. nt

[droidamus2]

7. Almost...

I agree with Pelosi and Reid in general about fast tracking health care legislation with one very large 'but'. If the bill being pushed does nothing but protect the health insurance companies and forces citizens into paying for health insurance then I say go as slow as possible actually I say kill it before it spreads. If it is a bill that at least allows citizens to opt into a single payer type system then I say full steam ahead.

[patrice]

10. AMEN to that. We may be War Slaves to Trans-national Corp, but we DAMN well better not

be Slaves to Insurance Company jobs.

This particular frog is gonna' jump out of the hot water!!!

[C......N......C]

11. I don't know very much about health care other than I want everyone to have it.

I recently had to find a new GP, it took three months to get an appointment. Will the new system cover more people ? If it does, what is the capacity for our current system to handle more people ? I'm crossing my fingers and toes and everything else that this question is simply answered without crucifying me. If the answer is common knowledge then I apologize for my ignorance and will research it.

[babylonsister]

12. The 'new system' hasn't been announced yet, because

it's being worked on. So you're off the hook. ;)

[AlphaCentauri]

13. hope is not a simulation of national health care

there should be a complete reform not just patches

[ima_sinnic]

15. it worries me when they start "fast tracking" bills. Why can't we know

the provisions of this bill before they push it through real fast?
We already know that single-payer appears to be dead in the water because "taxes would be too high," so why should we applaud this latest handout to the corporations? What's their hurry? What don't they want us to know about?

[BeFree]

17. If only we had good media

They would be following this issue and reporting daily so that we would know.

Front page news is where it ought to be.

[backscatter712]

19. NUKE 'EM!!! NUKE 'EM!!!

PUSH THE BUTTON, PELOSI!!!

[cooolandrew]

29. I even said in 2008 that in 2009 will likely see a whole new Pelosi so glad she proved me right. >

Now the healthcare plan isn't everything we could hope and dream for but it will definitely do as an intermediate plan on the road to single payer and single payer the people will have. But as I say the plan is adequate for the time being and worthy of anybody's support till we get to the promise land.

[dflprincess]

31. And I say, they're going to pass this bill, call it "reform"

and it will take another 30 years to get anything actualy done.

The plan is not adequate as it does nothing to improve access to health care - all it does is protect insurance company profits.

[cooolandrew]

33. With 15 blue dogs sadly we've got a lot of work to do I think they are passing what is do-able but >

yeah would I like them to have single payer on the table no doubt. It won't take 30 years it will take non stop organizing like crazy and Bayh doesn't play ball his ousting. I am please she is at least making some changes with the small poltical capital they have. As one previous evangelist said once he came out of the fog his view was the only way to overcome the GOP ideology is their total removal from congress. Then Bayh can have his own little gagn of 15 party. BNut it's that ideology we so have to overcome, I've said for a while is going to take many years to clean up congress but folks can get there with determination.