Joel Pett sticks it to the Pope. The Pope is an asshole.

[alfredo]

[Occulus]

1. "Former" Hitler Youth member John Ratzinger is evil.

Just plain evil. There simply is no other word for it.

John Ratzinger is not a holy man in any sense of the word.

[tularetom]

6. I don't know about that

I thought he was pretty good on "Cheers"

[geardaddy]

51. John Ratzenberger (sp?)

is a Pub.

[CoffeeCat]

8. He even looks evil...

...the sight of him makes me frightened for our world.

As a former Catholic, it is disturbing and sad about what has happened to the Church
in the past few decades. The hierarchy is as corrupt as the worst governments.

Pitiful.

[beac]

13. They don't call him

Pope Palpatine for nothing!

[PhilosopherKing]

31. Ha Ha

That's funny.

[defendandprotect]

15. After Pope John XXII's Vatican II, there was a right-wing coup . . .

In fact, an elaborate right-wing coup on the peacemakers of the time ---

all of the enlightened leadership.

I'm a "recovering Catholic" but much admired Pope John XXIII who told Catholics

to use their own conscience to decide for themselves on birth control and other

issues. He dumped Confession. Gave the church a humane and compassionate face.

And kicked "Papal Infallibility" in the ass ---

Loved him!

[UTUSN]

18. Typo in the subject line. 23rd not 22nd, Typo, NOT lack of knowledge!1 Yay!1

I only call attention because I've encountered persons SO young that they don't know (not talking about you) this wonderful pope and seem to think that JP II was as good as is possible (NOT!1).

I wear two of John XXIII's medals and have 4 or more others, and some people think it's JP.



I propose we call Ratzo "Ratzo the Bareback".

[defendandprotect]

38. Thank you--!! Sorry, he was so wonderful . . . .

I'm a recovering Catholic and I adored him!!!

[roguevalley]

41. John 23 was wonderful. this nazi dipshit former head of the Inquisition? Not so much.

[Usrename]

44. I dunno...

"In 1962 the saintly Pope John XXIII signed a confidential document that outlined a policy of "strictest" secrecy in dealing with allegations of sexual abuse by priests and threatened those who spoke out with excommunication. It was dispatched to bishops all over the world. This document has recently come to light and has been hailed by lawyers acting for the victims of abuse as a blueprint for an official Vatican policy of deception and concealment. A spokesman for the Catholic church has denied this, claiming that the lawyers have distorted the document, which deals only with the church's internal disciplinary procedures, by quoting it out of context."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/aug/20/religion.uk

At least John Paul II denounced Bush's invasion of Iraq as an Unjust War.

[KansDem]

48. 1962?

...a confidential document that outlined a policy of "strictest" secrecy in dealing with allegations of sexual abuse by priests and threatened those who spoke out with excommunication.

From the priests up through the hierarchy right to the Vatican, it looks like a lot of Catholic Church officials should be doing serious prison time.

[misanthrope]

35. The church is no more corrupt than it's been in the past...

...and was more blatantly so centuries ago.

[alfredo]

9. Back then there was a lot of social pressure to join. What we need to know

is if he was a zealot, or was he just going through the motions.

[defendandprotect]

16. Benedict headed up the "office of the Inquisition" . . .

which may even still be on the books -- !!!

On 25 November 1981, Pope John Paul II named Ratzinger Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, formerly known as the Holy Office, the historical Inquisition.

A little NAZI attitude could help there --- !!!

[alfredo]

19. He was the enforcer.

[defendandprotect]

21. Yes ... believe that required some "zealotry" .. . !!!

Personally, I think the CIA took over the Vatican after Pope John XXIII . . .

they'd had too much to contend with as the three came together --

JFK/Pope John XXIII/Kruschev -- !!!

They all quickly disappeared !

[defendandprotect]

22. dupe --

[alfredo]

29. Not a dupe, he is an active instigator.

[defendandprotect]

36. I'm with you . . . but I posted the same thing TWICE . . . by mistake . ..

Can you imagine that the office of the Inquisition is still open . . . !!

Forgive my paranoia, but I'm wondering how we come to be attacking Muslims everywhere!!???

Another thing I find interesting is that Allen Dulles' nephew is rising in the Vatican . ..

he had a rather speedy rise thru the lower ranks and then I noticed he ended up at the

Vatican about ten years ago. Wondering if the first Polish pope was also the first CIA pope?

They say that the Vatican intelligence networks still rival the CIA's . .. !!

[alfredo]

37. Poland went neo conservative a long time ago.

[defendandprotect]

42. "Neo-Conservative" . . .

Well, Hitler supposedly put the first concentration camps in Poland because they

were so anti-Semitic -- lessons taught very well by the Catholic Church throughout

Europe! And still even after the Berlin Wall fell, this seemed to be the truest

of Poland.

I really am not familiar with all that is happening there now.

[alfredo]

43. Poland fell into the hands of the corporatist after they broke free. they

bought into the "free market" just like Iceland, and Russia. Right wing politicians have won the last few elections, the moderates and left have been push aside. They were also buddy buddy with Bush, joining the "coalition of the willing." They got money and factories in exchange for their tiny force in Iraq. At that time they sold out their government's IT to Microsoft. If you wanted to do any business with the government online, it had to be Windows and IE. That was also tied into the aid and factories. It also appears black sites were part of the deal. It's not Auschwitz, but it is still a crime against humanity.

[defendandprotect]

45. Thank you --

I tend to think of John Paul as the first CIA pope -- but wasn't he leading
the march for labor/unions? At the same time telling us all that the "elites"
were nice guys!

And I'm way behind on any news of Iceland!

But Russia, from what I've read that makes sense, was quickly being turned into
a third world nation -- according to Chomsky's predictions and other stuff I've read.
Mainly all under control of US - supposedly also with our pushing Mafia on them.

Watching Netanyu just come to power again leads me to think that we're pretty much
controlling most of the world now! They've been working on this since the end of WWII --
i.e., keeping the left out of power.

In "black sites," you mean . . . ? Rendition?

Are you somehow personally involved with Poland or just following closely what is happening
there?

Granted all hatreds can be taught more easily than understanding and tolerance --
but somehow I always think that every nation has its fair share of liberals and moderates
as well. Is there any hope that Poland is waking up? Or, are they so deep in this now
that they're pretty much as ineffective at creating change as we are?



Poland fell into the hands of the corporatist after they broke free. they
bought into the "free market" just like Iceland, and Russia. Right wing politicians have won the last few elections, the moderates and left have been push aside. They were also buddy buddy with Bush, joining the "coalition of the willing." They got money and factories in exchange for their tiny force in Iraq. At that time they sold out their government's IT to Microsoft. If you wanted to do any business with the government online, it had to be Windows and IE. That was also tied into the aid and factories. It also appears black sites were part of the deal. It's not Auschwitz, but it is still a crime against humanity.

[alfredo]

49. The Pope was very anti Communist and Polish, so he had a dog in that fight.

I have a good friend in the south west of Poland. He was a member of the Socialist party in Poland. He is a lawyer, specializing in international law as it relates to the internet.

[struggle4progress]

30. It wasn't peer pressure but Nazi law that required membership. The Nazi attitude towards dissent

is well-illustrated by the treatment of the White Rose group. Dissenters disappeared quickly, so nobody ever heard much dissent. Most children aged 14-16 wouldn't have had a clue how to take a stand against the Nazi state

I did meet a guy once who had done anti-Nazi work at age 14: but to save his life, he ran away from home and fled the country the following year. He wasn't very tolerant of people who sneered, decades later, about Germans who hadn't sneered not standing up to the Nazis. I know because I myself once sneered and was rewarded with a very loud and angry lecture explaining that I had no concept of the Nazi terror and was therefore not competent to judge Germans who hadn't resisted

I know of no evidence whatsoever that Ratzinger was a Nazi zealot or that he harbored any sympathy towards the Nazis. If you know of such evidence, feel free to produce it -- but if you don't have any evidence at all, don't pretend this an open question



The White Rose: A Lesson in Dissent
by Jacob G. Hornberger
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/rose.html

[alfredo]

34. Didn't know it was required. Thanks for the info.

I hope you got to see the movie Sophie Scholl. Heroes come in all shapes and sizes.

[alfredo]

20. You can see it in his eyes.

[opihimoimoi]

2. K&R.....The Earth has 6.7 BILLION PEEPS...POP control is non existent

Are they NUTZ??? they want MORE PEOPLE??? Where is the FOOD for 20 BILLION?

[alfredo]

10. Breed themselves into dominance.

[defendandprotect]

17. They want new members in their own interests . .. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[Liberal Veteran]

3. JPII wasn't any better on that front.

I wrote him off when he could visit nations where tens of thousands of people were starving and remind them that using condoms was a sin.

[liberalmuse]

4. He's the creepiest Pope EVER.

I absolutely cannot stand this man.

[alfredo]

14. Papa Blood

This might be over the top, but for some it might be right on the money.

[malaise]

5. Perfect

K & R

[varkam]

7. Joel Pett nails it again.

And, furthermore, fuck Joey Ratz.

[TriMera]

11. I think...

even Catholics are starting to wonder about this guy. :WTF:

[alfredo]

12. As evidenced by people sneaking up behind him and yelling Boo!!!

[mitchum]

23. Fuck that cross dressing conman motherfucker

[omega minimo]

24. Thought your title said "JOAN JETT sticks it to the Pope"

:rofl:

[alfredo]

27. Close enough

[Karenina]

25. Simply brilliant.

[Richard Steele]

26. K&R

[alfredo]

28. Tony Auth

[defendandprotect]

39. Now that is great --!!!!

and sad, sad, sad --

[ACTION BASTARD]

32. I don't trust any guy that wears a dress with Italian loafers and crazy looking hats.

As a recovering catholic, Ratzo sets my pedo-alarm off. Pope JP carried a little Jewish girl to safety when he was a young man in nazi-poland. Meanwhile, as a young man, Ratzo happily worked and wore the uniform of the Wehrmacht.

Fuck you sideways Ratzo.

[alfredo]

33. Organized religion always leads to abuses.

[defendandprotect]

40. That's the FISH he's wearing on his head -- look at it sideways - PICES . . ..

Age of Pisces
The Age of Pisces is considered by some as the Age of Christianity, inasmuch as ... on the Earth in an earlier "Age of Pisces" and thus obtained "prior rights" to ...www.halexandria.org/dward207.htm - Cached

The Age of Pisces and the Age of Aquarius
The Era of Pisces and the Era of Aquarius by Benedict Elie ... During the Age of Pisces, all humanity was invited to believe in God. ...www.astrosoftware.com/AquariusPiscesAge.htm - Cached

Age of Pisces is coming to an end --
Couldn't figure out why it's been taking so long for Age of Aquarius to arrive . . .
Evidently, it has some thing to do with the tilt of the earth?
But it's arriving on a slant . . . Hope someone else can describe this cause I have to
go try to find the info on it again. But, basically, we are at the same time in Pisces
and Aquarius!

[defendandprotect]

46. Typo correction: The fish hat represents PISCES . . . !!!

[TK421]

47. Gods Rottweiler....actually, it should be Gods Cocker Spaniel

because those dogs are insane :-)

[alfredo]

50. As a former mail carrier, I can concur.

[TexasObserver]

52. It's as if they made Ratzo pope just to prove the job has nothing to do with God.

We knew that anyway. Can you imagine the presumptiveness of a person who actually believes they were appointed by God to be God's voice on earth? He's elected by a bunch of other old men who have been associated with the group since birth.

[alfredo]

53. Do you think they actually believe in that God stuff? They seem more

interested in power and control.

[TexasObserver]

55. That's how they sell it. Whether they believe is another matter.

They sell it to their minions as that.

[alfredo]

56. I had a friend that was raised by an Evangelist. He was a raging alky, but

from time to time he would dry out and hit "the circuit" in Appalachia. In a few short months he would make enough money for his drinking a whoring around.

[and-justice-for-all]

54. When will people learn that religion is irrelevent and bunk?

See OP as exhibit A.