On the History Channel Now: Was Lincoln GAY?

[charlie and algernon]

Talked about his friend whom he shared his bed with for four years. Said Lincoln was so heartbroken when his friend moved to Kentucky that Lincoln stayed in bed for a week.

I think it's great that a mainstream channel is tackling this subject.



Oh, and that sound you heard was a million republican heads exploding.

[provis99]

1. maybe, but he certainly was a huge pothead n/t

[sam sarrha]

16. pot was the most perscribed drug untill the developement of Asprin, and better than Asprin

[MrSlayer]

2. Lincoln was not gay.

And neither was he a pothead.

The customs and practices of the 1800's are so different from today. This is just foolishness and stirring shit up.

[physioex]

3. Half the shows on the History Channel....

Are CRAP. Show like Armageddon, and wacky UFO theories. The only good shows are Einstein, Universe, and Modern Marvels.

[sam sarrha]

17. gay was gay then just like now.. they just had closets with keys

[MrSlayer]

20. Certainly.

But Lincoln was not among them.

[Raine]

21. Agree, it's ridiculous to put 21st century practices

on those in the 19th century and think you can come up with a real conclusion. :eyes:

[Behind the Aegis]

22. "foolishness and stirring shit up"

Really? How so?

Is being gay "bad?" If not, then why would you consider questioning if Lincoln was gay is "foolishness and stirring shit up?"

"The customs and practices of the 1800's are so different from today." Which of those "customs and practices" are "so different" as to change the nature of sexual orientation?

[rug]

4. Sure, next you'll say J. Edgar Hoover was gay.

[QC]

7. J. Edgar Hoover was not gay.

And neither was he a cross dresser.

The customs and practices of the 1950's are so different from today. This is just foolishness and stirring shit up.

[MadHound]

8. LOL!

:rofl:

[rfranklin]

10. Just because a man wears a dres doesn't mean he's gay...

He just likes girly things.

[LiberalFighter]

11. You mean he likes the feel of it against his skin?

[sam sarrha]

14. not gay but DEFINATELY Queer

[Canuckistanian]

23. LOL

:rofl: You're bad....

[smalll]

5. Even if Lincoln DID ever get sexual with his friend, his intense and loving relationship with M.Todd

pretty much proves he wasn't "GAY."

It's really beyond belief the way 21st century America looks at male homosexuality the way 19th century America looked at blackness -- along the lines of the "one drop rule." 7 white great-grandparents, and 1 black one? You're black! Ever had some kind of sex with a man? You're gay!

(Unlike women of course, who are all "bisexual" (that's a laugh and a half.) Anyone like to name any other culture in history where women were routinely bisexual? Meaning, any other culture without frat guys with cell phones that take pictures, Girls Gone Wild, sexting, and/or Youporn? Anyone? Anyone?)

[Stevenmarc]

26. .

[aquart]

6. People regularly shared beds back then.

Just two in the bed? What were they? Rich?

The bed sharing is no indication of anything.

The staying in bed? Maybe. Or maybe he caught a bad cold because it wasn't warm in there anymore.

[sam sarrha]

13. syphilis was common, people in a family had a 20% chance of be'n infected casually, but Lincoln got

it from his first law partner...

[1]

9. no way. abraham lincoln and mary todd was like the hottest het sex ever to occur in the white house

mmmmMaryToddmmmm...

and then there is this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbCkgKQhxrQ

no way...

[rucky]

29. They even named the bedroom after 'em!

[sam sarrha]

12. and he got Syphilis from his first law partner, his wife went mad in a store from syphilis

during the victorian era up to 50% of all males had sipholis..

it is said that the source of his depression was giving his wife the pox

great book, 'the Pox:madness, genius and the mysteries of syphilis' cheap at Amazon.com

[enlightenment]

15. Interesting then that there is evidence that Lincoln

suffered depressive episodes before he married Mary Todd . . .

[sam sarrha]

18. he had syphilis before he met her and was gay in a cruel world

[FrenchieCat]

19. It is possible that Lincoln was Gay. But we will never really know.

so to speculate on something that we will never know is fun but unsatisfying. Who knows, there may have been others for which this could be said to be possible.

[ConcernedCanuk]

24. If he was, so what? - and - "gay" then did not mean what it does today

.
.
.

and people were much more private/discreet about their sexual habits back then also

USA now has a black President - so what?

USA in the future will probably have a woman president,

or gawd(ess) forbid a "gay" one

and so on . .

SO WHAT!

if they serve the people that elected them responsibly,

what difference does it make?

Should be about 100 million Americans wanting to hang Bush and Cheney,

not whining about President Obama's problems dealing with the BFEE's leftovers

but Bush and Cheney and the PNAC gang are out of the cross-hairs now

Obama makes a flippant remark about bowling and the Special Olympics,

The USA electorate is again distracted by an insignificant happening,

while Wall Street rapes their economy,

and their War-Machine rapes the planet.

I think the USA is basically f*cked right up.

One flipped tit gets more attention frm the electorate than dying Iraqis under the USA's invasion/occupation

Unless the ELECTORATE changes their attitude,

even 100 Obamas can't save them . .

(sigh)

[Frank Cannon]

25. No way. Lincoln and Mary Todd were the Burton and Taylor of the WH.

No way would a gay dude put up with that kind of shit for so long. I don't care what century he lived in.

[Stevenmarc]

27. Now if Lincoln was born a little later he might have been tapping his foot at Kitty Hawk

[WI_DEM]

28. Do some reading about how things were during the 19th century

Men often slept in the same bed. The same "standards" of the 21st century doesn't apply to the 19th century. My God, the HISTORY Channel is the source? What they ran out of programs about UFO's, Ghosts and various monsters.

[Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel]

30. Log Cabin Republicans start with Lincoln?

:yoiks: