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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 09:07 AM
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Repubs pushing Coleman to get MN Senate election decided by SOTUS
Of course everyone knows how that round would go. :eyes:


http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2009/03/what-are-odds-by-digby.html



What Are The Odds?

by digby

... that the GOP would pull this?

A state court could rule any day now on Norm Coleman’s challenge to Al Franken’s 225-vote lead in Minnesota, but the race may be far from over no matter what the judges say.

Top Republicans are encouraging Coleman to be as litigious as possible and take his fight all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court if he loses this round, believing that an elongated court fight is worth it if they can continue to deny Democrats the 59th Senate seat that Franken would represent.

And in pushing a possible Supreme Court conclusion, Republicans are raising case history that makes Democrats shudder: Bush v. Gore.




Since the same lawyers who argued for Bush are representing Coleman, it seems like a no-brainer to me. Everyone thinks that this is mostly a delaying tactic to keep the Dems from their 59th seat, and maybe it is. But the fact that Republicans are willing to bring up Bush vs Gore shows once again that they have absolutely no shame.

“The Supreme Court in 2000 said in Bush v. Gore that there is an equal protection element of making sure there is a uniform standard by which votes are counted or not counted, and I think that’s a very serious concern in this instance,” said Texas Sen. John Cornyn, chairman of the National Republican Senatorial Committee. “I’m not making any predictions, but I wouldn’t be surprised” if it ended up in federal court.

<...>

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) on Friday first blessed the idea of encouraging Coleman to take his fight into federal appeals court and potentially all the way up to the Supreme Court. On Monday, several top Republicans continued pushing the federal courts angle, which could delay the Minnesota Senate race for several more months.

“The state court is not the final word on that, because the question in federal court is whether the guarantee of equal protection under laws in the U.S. Constitution has been violated by an inconsistent policy with regard to counting ballots,” said Judiciary Committee member Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.). Sessions said he “absolutely” would encourage Coleman to take his fight to federal court if he loses.

“From what I can tell, there are legal issues well worth taking up in the Court,” said Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.). “I think the whole Bush v. Gore — using the same standards to count votes is a big issue.”




Of course the court also said "our consideration is limited to the present circumstances, for the problem of equal protection in election processes generally presents many complexities," not that it makes any difference to hypocritical Republicans. There are just as many hard core partisan wingnuts on the court today as there were then, so the only thing stopping them is their own consciences, which I doubt extends to electoral fairness. Rigging the vote is in their DNA.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 09:10 AM
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One hope is that the longer Coleman allows this idiocy to be strung out
the greater the perception in the next statewide ballot in Minnesota that Republicans are fools and scoundrels. Not that that would be exactly revelatory.

It is frustrating that a good man like Al Franken is not seated at this hour but at the very least it also means that a total tool like Norm Coleman isn't seated either, and the calendar, it seems to me, favors Franken being seated sooner or later.

I'd like it to be sooner.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 09:10 AM
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1. I'm willing to bet that the Supremes would not select to rule on this case...
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 09:12 AM
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2. LOL, Have they checked out Franken's birth certificate yet? n/t
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Saboburns Donating Member (690 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 09:13 AM
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3. Republicans are such ASSHOLES
Always was, Always will be.

Fuck 'em.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 09:13 AM
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4. would Coleman rest his challenge on that verdict??
doubtful
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 09:16 AM
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5. Except bush v gore stated it was NOT to be used as precedent and related ONLY to that specific case.
...I personally don't think it will go that far....Franken will win, and he will be certified and that will be it...
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 09:19 AM
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8. Scalia can always write an opinion that Coleman v. Franken is the only case permitted
to take Bush v. Gore as a precedent, unless other elections need to be decided before Democratic appointees outnumber Republic ones on the Supreme Court, after which this monkey business is right out.

:patriot:
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 09:17 AM
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6. The Senate itself has a constitutional mandate to decide its own elections
Article I, Section 5, para. 1: Each House shall be the judge of the elections, returns and qualifications of its own members....

Why hasn't the Senate itself decided the election yet?
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 09:19 AM
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7. They call themselves real Americans.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 09:29 AM
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9. The Supreme Court is more American than the voters of Minnesota
:patriot:

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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 01:41 PM
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13. Wha!
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 01:49 PM
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15. Especially the Republican side of the Supreme Court.
;)


:sarcasm: <==in case the wink wasn't strong enough a clue. :crazy:
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 02:12 PM
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16. Thanks for the clarification. Gotta use my glasses. Hats off to you!
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 10:31 AM
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10. the votes have been counted and recounted and recounted ... why can't they get over, they lost?
hey, that sounds like something that the Repukes were saying in November/December 2000 ...
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 10:48 AM
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12. They voted for a SOREm CoLOSEReman
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 10:33 AM
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11. why not... They Decided a Presidential Election
even though it wasn't Constitutional. Everything in our government is corrupted to benefit the rich and powerful. If Coleman works for them, which he does, they push for this as well, and not just his political party of fascists.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 01:43 PM
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14. repigs wanting to steal another election.
what SOB's they are.
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