Keith Olbermann is taking orders from MSNBC on what to not cover...

[originalpckelly]

does that mean he's taking orders on what TO cover?

So will Rachael Maddow not talk about this too, and what does that mean about her integrity?

RACHAEL MADDOW JUST WENT FOR IT! SHE TALKED ABOUT IT! KO DIDN'T!

[MrPerson]

1. Keith has changed, man. I don't even know him anymore.

[City Lights]

2. His corporate masters have spoken. nt

[originalpckelly]

5. And what else do they speak on?

[anigbrowl]

39. But somehow they can't shut Rachel Maddow up

right...somehow she manages to defy their evil control. I can't believe people fall for this soap opera BS. That's like Larry King overs the stories that they won't allow Anderson Cooper to broadcast.

[billyoc]

3. I assume Olbermann and Maddow have some freedom about what to cover

as long as it's not something that's going to embarrass NBC too much.

[Tangerine LaBamba]

4. In defense of KO and RM,

it's possible, you know that, given the speed of the news cycle, the Cramer/Stewart thing is now old news.

I mean, what would they say about it that hasn't yet been said?

I want to believe in them, so I choose to believe this.....................

[babylonsister]

6. Oh, please. He picks his battles, I'm sure. Everyone else covered

it. And he still has a job, not a minor consideration. This whole thing makes m$nbc look petty, not the people who work for them.

[ShortnFiery]

43. Sorry, not unlike the rest of us, even KO has to answer to "the man."

Rachel barely mentioned it - they both were Good Germans tonight. However, with such HIGH SALARIES, I probably would have followed orders too so I can't judge them too harshly. :(

[originalpckelly]

7. Maddow just went for it!

[MrPerson]

8. CUT HER MIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[originalpckelly]

10. Holy shit!

:rofl:

[rocktivity]

9. Rachel just mentioned it

well, in terms of Comedy central's web site getting 400% more traffic, and Gibbs' rejoinder.

:headbang:
rocktivity

[originalpckelly]

11. I love this!

She's talking about it now!

[moundsview]

12. 4 million a year...talk about Cramer

4 million a year...talk about Cramer.

"Good evening, I'm Keith Olbermann and Bill O'Reilly is the worst person in the world , again, for the 3rd time this week."

[otohara]

13. Maybe He Likes Jim Cramer, Maybe

they are even close friends -
Sheesh these people work together in the same building.
Maybe his co-workers feel badly for the guy.

[WhaTHellsgoingonhere]

14. I just asked the same question last night!

Here's the post no one responded to :rofl:


The Peacock and The Financial Crisis
*Andrea Mitchell is married to Alan Greenspan
*David Gregory's wife bolts from her Executive VP post with Fannie Mae in September
*Mike Barnicle's wife is an executive with Bank of America
*Jim Cramer is canonized by CNBC
*Former "winner," fomer CEO, and present Jim Cramer impersonator, Jack Welch, is a regular commentator while GE's stock plummets due to GE Capital's mounting loan losses

Conflicts of interest abound. Seriously, every single person mentioned above is way too close to the financial meltdown. Is everything off limits? How tied are Keith's, Rachel's and Chris' hands? Thank heavens for Jon Stewart.
-me

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=5245125&mesg_id=5245125

As I'm typing this, Rachael is covering Stewart v Cramer right now! lol

[Political Tiger]

15. Yes, the most important news in the entire world

is Cramer vs Stewart. How can we ever trust Olbermann again for not covering this earth shattering event?

:sarcasm:

[tangent90]

18. HEEHEE

:toast:

[notadmblnd]

36. It should have been covered is because what Jon Stewart did was news

He didn't just go and bad mouth an arrogant Wall Street insider or make CNBC look bad. He exposed them (and Wall Street) for what they were, crooks! The market manipulation and the disappearance of trillions of dollars and the loss 4 million jobs is a direct result of their criminal actions, and that is the news.

No, the story KO should have covered, should not have been about Jon or Cramer. The story should have been about the crimes that Jon exposed.

[ShortnFiery]

42. Yes, because of what CRAMER represents = Wall Street's Greed.

Yes, it was the most important story this week. YOU BETCHA! :evilgrin:

[ginnyinWI]

50. I know what you mean.

Whenever we start seeing a lot of this,we know there isn't much else to get those viewers.

Of course they could cover what's happening in Darfur, or Mexico, or something. That would be nice.

[KharmaTrain]

16. Rachel Tipped Toed Around It

Damn right GE is trying to tamp this story down. It could destroy one of their most profitable franchises. Rachel mentioned it but didn't dare to show a clip or go into really what was discussed. Now had this been on the Faux Noise channel, both would have played it a lot louder.

Boycott? And how would this work? Boycott General Electric? NBC? MSNBC? And if this would would work (if a media boycott ever really worked) then having both Olbermann and Maddow tossed off the air would accomplish what?

There's an old saying that you don't shit where you eat...and it appears this is the case with MSNBC and CNBC.

[Ichingcarpenter]

17. I think that they didn't really cover it will be a big story that

GE will have to spin even more.

I still trust keith and rachel but they have to
listen to their masters.

I expect an explanation by them next week
because the people will demand it.

[babylonsister]

20. I cannot tell a lie; it was on faux.

I turned to o'Leilly during a commercial; he had two female panelists on and they were talking about Stewart's smackdown. To o'leilly's chagrin, they both enjoyed it immensely. :D

[Tarheel_Dem]

19. Could it be that Keith doesn't care much for Stewart? Jon has gone after

NBC/MSNBC personalities before. Rachel being the new kid on the block, might get away with saying things that others can't. I doubt she's fostered many long term personal relationships with many of the NBC anchors. What would you have had Keith say about it, that you haven't already heard?

[WhaTHellsgoingonhere]

27. Well...

...Cramer skirted Scarborogh (anyone know if Joe and gang punked Cramer? they had followed the story all week); all day, no mention of Stewart v Cramer on MSNBC (they had been following it all week); Chris didn't mention. I didn't catch Schuster, but as far as I know, it wasn't mentioned until Rachael, who really seemed to be telling as much as she was allowed to tell, but nothing more.

[Medusa]

21. This is why it's laughable when people here call him a

"truthseeker" and that he speaks truth to power. B-U-L-L-S-H-I-T. Ever heard him call out Scarborough? Matthews? No and you won't. And the idea he's over at Kos trying to save his own ass from legitimate criticism shows what a wuss he really is. I've never understood the fandom for him here, the corporate media owns his ass and always will.

[babylonsister]

22. He spent 2 years calling Bush out while he was in office and was

almost the only one in the newz biz who did. Do you think his corporate masters enjoyed that? I don't and know they had arguments over how far he went.

But yea, think what you want. And don't watch if he offends you so.

[originalpckelly]

26. I think they enjoyed having a progressive audience to brainwash.

GE is really gung ho about global climate change, because it's going to make tons of money off of it.

They want people to use their nuclear reactors and wind turbines, when both of them have real downsides. Nuclear reactors leave behind waste, and wind turbines are bird blenders.

They want us to buy the things they sell, not solar power.

[babylonsister]

28. Gimme a break. I could care less about what GE is trying to sell

anyone. I just enjoy an honest news man after so many trying to avoid the truth for so long.

[Berry Cool]

35. Wind turbines are not "bird blenders." What bullshit.

I'm not even going to discuss the rest of what's said in this thread, I'm doing that in other threads. But the "bird blender" comment was especially off the beam.

As for GE not wanting us to buy solar power because they don't sell it, take off your goddamn anticorporate tinfoil hat and READ before you make a fool of yourself with yet more ignorant comments:

http://www.gepower.com/prod_serv/products/solar/en/index.htm

Sheesh.

[crimsonblue]

40. Turbines as bird blenders? Are you fucking kidding me?

That may be the most ignorant piece of bullshit I've heard yet today (and I watched Hannity earlier). Obviously you have never seen a turbine in real life, because they do not move nearly fast enough to fuck with birds. STFU about things with which you have no grasp. There are absolutely no negatives to wind power other than an obstructed view.

[Berry Cool]

46. Thank you.

I, on the other hand, HAVE seen a turbine in real life--a couple of them, actually. One stands right in the downtown area of the city where I live.

"Bird blenders"...sheesh. The damn thing doesn't turn fast enough to blend anything. If it did--if there was a strong enough wind to get it going at anywhere near blender speed--it'd be automatically shut off.

[crimsonblue]

51. exactly.

Turbines have governors that limit the speed at 35mph or so. Plus, any birds that 'may' be killed in turbines probably should die. It is just natural selection at that point, because the birds that are too stupid or are sick or have poor vision will die before they can mate, causing the more superior birds to get a reproductive advantage. So, any birds that 'may' die will actually cause the bird populations to be less likely to 'die' in turbines in the future.

[emilyg]

24. He is a truthseeker.

[Tarheel_Dem]

34. Then don't watch. Why should Keith bash his coworkers? Can you name

any other network that calls out their own coworkers, or is this just more KO hatred?

[Rage for Order]

23. The executives at NBC / MSNBC sign his paycheck

What did you expect? :shrug:

I'm sure there's something in his contract that speaks to him talking about or depicting the network (MSNBC) or its sister/parent companies in a disparaging light.

[NYCGirl]

25. According to Keith Olbermann, the OP is WRONG

I've been at the Mets game all day (21+ / 0-)

So I'm reading the TVNewser post for the first time.

Frankly, the guy who posted this, the site's Associate Editor, Steve Krakauer ("SteveK"), is well known around the industry as being entirely in Fox's pocket.

His "MSNBC producers have been told" not to mention this, is, frankly, bullshit.

Have a look at his posts on this otherwise successfully neutral site: they are Fox News and Fox Business Channel press release rewrites, and anonymous criticisms from "industry sources" of people at CNN and MSNBC.

The Fox Business stuff is particularly egregious and particularly relevant to this. If a newspaper with a circulation of 500 people runs a feature on somebody on that channel, SteveK summarizes it, posts a picture from it, posts a link to it. I mean, seriously, if there's been any publicity for this channel that has yet to get a measurable audience after a year on the air (that means they're under 15,000 viewers), that hasn't gotten a link on TVNewser courtesy SteveK, it'd be a shocking upset.

Rachel could get the cover of Newsweek and he wouldn't link to it.

So, did Stewart do a good job? Obviously. Did we get ordered not to run it? Nope. Was stirring up rumors about a ban in the interest of a Foxophilic blogger with the credibility of a bush league Drudge? You bet.


http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2009/3/13/182441/605/333#c333

[Rage for Order]

29. I'll admit, I don't know

I didn't watch MSNBC at all today, so I don't know who showed or talked about what. However, I would be thoroughly underwhelmed by surprise if MSNBC execs did in fact instruct KO to lay off the story. Generally speaking, businesses aren't interested in drawing attention to their shortcomings.

[NYCGirl]

31. Or giving publicity to their competitors, like Viacom NT

[babylonsister]

30. I find this hard to believe because not one person on m$nbc

mentioned the smackdown all day while everyone else on other channels, blogs, print was.

[originalpckelly]

32. Krakauer did spend time at Fox News as a production assistant ...

according to his own profile on TVNewser.

So I guess that's a good explanation.

HOWEVER, he also interned at NBC. Perhaps some bad blood?

[ShortnFiery]

44. This is the FIRST time that I've read anything of KO's where I smell BULLSHIT.

It's a sad moment but I think he didn't have much choice. We all have to answer to "our corporate masters" sometimes. :shrug:

[Garbo 2004]

54. Or like proclaiming Santelli of CNBC as "worse person in the world" which he did? nt

[MasonJar]

33. Examples please. I watch both most nights and I see no change in KO.

[Baikonour]

37. The company isn't going to tell its ratings giant what to do.

Ever think that KO maybe just wanted to cover what he deemed more important, newsworthy material?

He's the only person still talking about the crimes of Bush. Be glad he's on our side.

[upi402]

38. doubt that n/t

[ShortnFiery]

41. Hey, I like Rachel but she's no heroine. BOTH of them *obeyed orders.* I still respect them ...

though. If you wish to make a difference, at times, you have to work WITHIN the system.

Let's hope that those BIG SALARIES don't change the true thoughtful journalists they are within their heart and soul.

We all would be tempted to MODIFY our behavior when tempted with such wealth and connections. :(

[earth mom]

45. I could have told you years ago that they would succeed in shutting KO up.

It's why he still has a job right now.

Few in the media will throw their job security out the window for the sake of truth and integrity.

Mike Malloy and Dan Rather and maybe Phil Donohue are the only ones I can think of at this moment who refuse to kiss corporate media a$$.

[Berry Cool]

47. Keith doesn't kiss corporare media ass either.

I think there are things going on here that he's just not free to talk about. And it's why we're just not going to get the real truth from him...right now.

"I was at a ball game all day." That's a really lame excuse coming from him. He's hiding something.

[WillieW]

48. Who pays their salaries?

[elizfeelinggreat]

49. Keith responds on Daily Kos

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/3/13/182441/605/592/708251

[spanone]

52. he works for a mega corp who's sole goal is to make a profit..of course they tell him

if he told them to fuck off, they would tell him the same

[Garbo 2004]

53. He left his first MSNBC show when the PTB turned it into the Monica Lewinski hour.

Olbermann's work history is not one of a subservient uncritical employee.