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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 09:03 AM
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Are you a critical thinker?
Edited on Thu Mar-12-09 09:04 AM by Why Syzygy
http://www.csmonitor.com/2009/0312/p09s01-coop.html

Quality thought is vital. So why don’t schools foster it?
By Linda Elder
from the March 12, 2009 edition

Dillon Beach, Calif. - How can we hope to thoughtfully address the economic issues, conflicts, world poverty, and many other pressing concerns that trouble our planet, if we don't take the way we think seriously?

We can't. To effectively deal with these issues, we must cultivate the spirit of critical thinking throughout human societies.

Right now we are not even teaching the skills and dispositions of the critical mind in our schools. We are not cultivating the intellect.

Everyone thinks; but we don't always think well. In fact, much of our thinking, left to itself, is sloppy, distorted, partial, uninformed, or prejudiced. Yet the quality of our life and all of the decisions we make depend precisely on the quality of our thought. At present, the act of thinking is virtually ignored.

Critical thinking is self-guided, self-disciplined thinking that aims to take the reasoning we all do naturally to a higher level. It is the art of analyzing and evaluating with the goal of improving thought. When making a decision, it is the difference between weighing information to come to a logical conclusion and making snap judgments without understanding the information.
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Uben Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 09:05 AM
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1. I think, therefore I am
....cept when I don't think, then I aint!
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 09:06 AM
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2. People who don't think critically are Nazis.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 09:15 AM
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4. Republicans?
Freepers?
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 09:11 AM
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3. This is why we have fallen behind in our schools
We teach kids step by step a math problem and then expect them to understand it. Yet the kids were not forced to work the problem on their own or think about it with the other kids. Memorization is not critical thinking. I am studying to be a teacher and we talked about this in our child development class, its a big problem.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 09:23 AM
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8. IS&R (Information Storage & Retrieval) involves almost no processing.
Lazy educators survey regurgitations, not processes. As a former math teacher, I sure as hell understand the greater effort required to evaluate the problem-solving process a student uses. Teaching it is also a challenge ... IF one adapts to the breadth of learning modes in the classroom. It's really remarkable how differently people learn.

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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 09:27 AM
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9. There is way too much testing and not enough actual problem solving
and critical thinking going on in schools right now. All it does is make kids stressed out and still lacking major thinking skills.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 09:16 AM
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5. Critical? Nay... on life support. n/t
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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 09:18 AM
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6. What happens when the kids start using their new skills and question the existance of God?
Edited on Thu Mar-12-09 09:19 AM by cobalt1999
It'll make the school prayer fallout look like a gentle rain
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 09:23 AM
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7. "In fact, much of our thinking, left to itself, is sloppy, distorted..."
"Critical thinking is self-guided, self-disciplined thinking..."

So which is it? Is critical thought sloppy, distorted, etc? Does sloppy, distorted, etc, type of thinking lead to critical thought?
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 09:30 AM
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10. heh.
That would be an example of "critical thinking".
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 11:24 AM
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16. Clearly, the first refers to the thought processees of one not yet using critical thinking skills.
Edited on Thu Mar-12-09 11:26 AM by redqueen
And the second refers to the thought processes of someone who has.
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 09:45 AM
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11. This is stupid.
I get so sick of this false dichotomy between learning facts and learning to think critically. They absolutely depend on each other, and it is foolish to say that we need to choose between one and the other. Children CANNOT learn to think critically unless they are also building a base of facts from which to make connections and extrapolate.

Research on how children learn math shows clearly that it is the children who learn the facts by rote and have them down pat (i.e., forwards and backwards, without hesitation) who are best CAPABLE of moving to the next level of thinking and seeing the relationships between those numbers.

Same thing in history. You cannot think intelligently about history unless you have a strong foundation of facts from which to draw. "Critical thinking" lessons in a vacuum are utterly meaningless. They become indoctrination rather than true critical thought.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 10:56 AM
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14. If there has to be a choice,
Edited on Thu Mar-12-09 10:56 AM by Why Syzygy
and I didn't get that from the article, critical thinking puts one ahead when faced with facts.
Memorizing facts, otoh, does not facilitate critical thinking.
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Dora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 11:21 AM
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15. Exactly.
Edited on Thu Mar-12-09 11:21 AM by Dora
:thumbsup:

How you doing?
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 11:37 AM
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18. Hey, lady!
Been thinking about cha. :hug:
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 05:26 PM
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19. No, you are exactly wrong.
Critical thinking is impossible in the absence of facts.

Research proves you wrong.
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 09:57 AM
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12. I remember in the early seventies the school in my town started teaching a Logic course.
Edited on Thu Mar-12-09 09:58 AM by Winterblues
I thought that was funny as hell at the time. I thought Logic was something that just came natural. Boy how wrong I was. I have learned over the years that Logic is in fact very unnatural and that few people in America use any. :shrug: Hence Bush* and his whole Cabal
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 10:54 AM
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13. Logic was never at least a Required course.
There may have been elective courses. Since I went to three different high schools, I know that curriculum varies widely across districts.
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Ron Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 11:31 AM
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17. Media literacy.
Media literacy, I believe, is the most-neglected and most-needed discipline in schools, especially in the primary and middle grades.

Kids, who swim in an ocean of messages carefully designed by corporate interests to bypass the cerebral cortex and directly address the limbic brain, desperately need the skills to interrupt and examine those messages.

We're not doing much good applying the canon of literature, math and science to the frontal lobes while Nike and McDonald's are working on the Lizard Brain.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 05:43 PM
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20. I think you can go to jail for growing your own tomato
so i guess i don't critically think. :eyes:
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 08:39 PM
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21. LOL
I'm invested in that thread. While initially going with the theme, I am certainly willing to take another look. You betcha I'll be wearing a critical eye!
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