George McGovern would like you to know he can pick a winner...

[originalpckelly]

and that's why he's opposing the Employee Free Choice Act. Just watched the ad on Letterman:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afjp4Cx-3W0&eurl=http://www.employeefreedom.org/

:puke:

We all know how right he was by thinking he'd be a great candidate for the Office of President back in '72. Goddamn Nixon's folks for ratfucking Muskie.

[rockymountaindem]

1. And that Eagleton move... genius

Not to disparage McGovern, but I don't get what he's doing with this EFCA thing.

[originalpckelly]

5. I don't mind disparaging McGovern.

Especially after this.

[Ichingcarpenter]

2. NOtice that he did not really speak out against the War in Iraq - like he has

FOR THIS!

And meanwhile Millions died

Unions are his issue?

[elleng]

8. You missed a few facts.

Can't we find something ELSE to do but slam our own, ESPECIALLY the valiant ones?


"The truth is that I oppose the Iraq war, just as I opposed the Vietnam War, because these two conflicts have weakened the U.S. and diminished our standing in the world and our national security."

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-mcgovern24apr24,0,4084076.story

"Staying in Iraq is not an option."

http://www.harpers.org/archive/2006/10/0081225

Get Out of Iraq

'The most urgent of these is to get American soldiers out of the Iraqi hellhole Bush-Cheney and their neo-conservative theorists have created in what was once called the cradle of civilization. It is believed to be the location of the Garden of Eden. I mention the neo-conservative theorists to recall Walter Lippman's observance, "There is nothing so dangerous as a belligerent professor."'

http://www.counterpunch.org/mcgovern01222007.html

[Ichingcarpenter]

11. All of your links were right before or after the 2006 election

You have links from late 2006 to 2007, after we won it.
Where was he in 2004 with Kerry?

Show me something from when the war broke out?

Sorry his issues with Labor right now sucks

He's old and he puts his time, money and reputation on
his anti-union advocacy and not the travesty of hypocrisy
and a million dead?

[Drunken Irishman]

14. I know he endorsed Clark in the 2004 Democratic Primary.

[Ichingcarpenter]

17. After Nixon got destroyed I expected him to come forward

BUT HE DIDN'T





I ended up supporting Carter during the next election cycle.

McGovern didn't speak out at Iran Contra either.

Why is he speaking out against LABOR now?

[G_j]

20. with Kerry?

what, now Kerry was a peace candidate? sorry.

[elleng]

21. 'The invasion of Iraq

and other costly wars now being planned in secret are fattening the ever-growing military-industrial complex of which President Eisenhower warned in his great farewell address. War profits are booming, as is the case in all wars. While young Americans die, profits go up. But our economy is not booming, and our stock market is not booming. Our wages and incomes are not booming. While waging a war against Iraq, the Bush Administration is waging another war against the well-being of America.

Following the 9/11 tragedy at the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, the entire world was united in sympathy and support for America. But thanks to the arrogant unilateralism, the bullying and the clumsy, unimaginative diplomacy of Washington, Bush converted a world of support into a world united against us, with the exception of Tony Blair and one or two others. My fellow South Dakotan, Tom Daschle, the US Senate Democratic leader, has well described the collapse of American diplomacy during the Bush Administration. . .

The President frequently confides to individuals and friendly audiences that he is guided by God's hand. But if God guided him into an invasion of Iraq, He sent a different message to the Pope, the Conference of Catholic Bishops, the mainline Protestant National Council of Churches and many distinguished rabbis--all of whom believe the invasion and bombardment of Iraq is against God's will. In all due respect, I suspect that Karl Rove, Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz, Donald Rumsfeld and Condoleezza Rice--and other sideline warriors--are the gods (or goddesses) reaching the ear of our President. . .

But in God's good time, perhaps this most ancient of civilizations can be redeemed. My prayer is that most of our soldiers and most of the long-suffering people of Iraq will survive this war after it has joined the historical march of folly that is man's inhumanity to man.'


http://www.jmcolberg.com/weblog/2003/04/the_reason_why_by_george_mcgov.html

[Ichingcarpenter]

23. Great Speech

I worked hard in 72 for him as a kid after Muskie fell.


He is terribly wrong with the union thing.

I really wanted Muskie in 72.

[elleng]

24. Thanks

.

[ddeclue]

3. Stop insulting sexual intercourse between rodents like that..

:P

[Radical Activist]

4. How did this happen?

That's so disappointing from someone I had so much respect for...until now.

[Drunken Irishman]

7. McGovern hasn't been the voice of the left since the 70s.

[GreenTea]

16. McGovern is wrong.

[Drunken Irishman]

6. McGovern is the defintion of McFail.

I've never seen a campaign run as poor as his. Sure, Nixon was tough to beat, but there was no excuse for that type of blowout.

McGovern is a loser, unfortunately.

[elleng]

9. THIS IS NOT NECESSARY,

even from a drunk.

Can't you all disagree with the man without being SO DISAGREEABLE?

[Drunken Irishman]

12. McGovern can handle it.

I mean, he got his ass handed to him by Nixon and continued on, I doubt me trashing him on a message board will phase him much!

[elleng]

18. But can the DEMOCRATS handle

constant criticism from their own?

And this is your excuse, 'He can handle IT?'

[G_j]

22. geezz.. get over it already

there are WAY bigger assholes and hypocrites in office right now.

[Drunken Irishman]

25. I'm a multibitcher.

[anonymous171]

10. He is our second worst loser candidate.

The worst is of course Dukakis.

[Drunken Irishman]

13. Mondale was pretty bad.

[anonymous171]

15. To Mondale's credit, he was up against Raygun.

Dukakis lost to fucking George HW Bush, who was one of the lamest politicians ever.

[question everything]

19. This has been his stand all along

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=367&topic_id=13231