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dynasaw Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 08:31 AM
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Obama is ill advised on education
Le Taz Hot posted this on another thread but it got buried among 140 or so responses. Obama has made a wrong turn on education. Arne duncan doesn't know the first thing about education.


"OBAMA SLAM-DUNCANS EDUCATION

by Greg Palast

New York. Tuesday, December 16,

Hey, you Liberal Democrats. You may have won the election, but you're getting CREAMED in the transition.

Today, President-elect Barack Obama stuck it to you. He's chosen Arne Duncan as Secretary of Education.

Who? Duncan is most decidedly NOT an educator. He's a lawyer. But Duncan has this extraordinary qualification: He's Obama's pick-up basketball buddy from Hyde Park.

I can't make this up.

Not that Duncan hasn't mucked about in the educational system. Chicago Boss Richie Daley put this guy in charge of the horror show called Chicago Public Schools where Duncan turned a bad system into a REALLY bad system.

And Obama knows it. Indeed, although he plays roundball with Duncan (who was captain of the Harvard basketball team), State Senator Obama was one of the only local Chicago officials who refused to send his kids to Duncan's public schools. (The Obamas sent Sasha and Malia to the Laboratory School, where Duncan's methods are derided as dangerously ludicrous.)

So, if The One won't trust his kids to Duncan, why is he handing Duncan ours?

The answer: Duncan is supported by a coterie of teacher-union hating Republicans. The vocal cheerleader for the Duncan appointment was David Brooks, the New York Times columnist; the REPUBLICAN columnist.

Hey, didn't those guys LOSE?

The problem with Duncan is not party affiliation. The problem is education philosophy. And Duncan is a Bush baby through and through, a card-carrying supporter of the program best called, "No Child's Behind Left."

At the heart of the program is testing. And more testing. Testing instead of teaching. When tests go badly, the solution is to push the low-test-score kids to drop out of school. If triage isn't enough, then attack their teachers.

Here's how Duncan operates this Bush program in Chicago at Collins High in the Lawndale ghetto. Teachers there work with kids from homeless shelters from an economically devastated neighborhood. Believe it or not, the kids don't get high test scores. So Chicago fired the teachers, every one of them. Then they brought in new teachers and fired THEM too when, surprise!, test scores still didn't rise.

The reward for a teacher volunteering for a tough neighborhood is to get harassed, blamed and fired. Now THAT'S a brilliant program, Mr. Duncan. But Duncan's own failures have not gotten HIM fired. As long as his 20-foot jumpshot holds, he's Mr. Secretary.

In no other cabinet department is the lack of expertise, lack of accomplishment, lack of a degree in the field found acceptable but in Education.

But what horrifies me more than Duncan's lack of credentials is Obama's kowtowing to the right-wing clique crusading against the teachers' union and progressive education. The ill philosophy behind the Bush-brand education theories Duncan promotes, "Teach-to-the-Test," forces teachers to limit classroom time to pounding in rote low-end skills, easily measured on standardized tests. The transparent purpose is to create a future class of worker-drones. Add in some computer training and - voila! - millions of lower-income kids are trained on the cheap to function, not think.

Analytical thinking skills, creative skills, questioning skills are left exclusively to privileged little Bushes at Phillips Andover Academy or privileged little Obamas at the Laboratory School.

For the rest of America's children, instead of hope, we'll have hoops."
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 08:50 AM
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1. duncan is the worse selection for public education ever
instead of getting a true progressive to correct the public schools system obama picked a corporate hack.
i`m glad i don`t have children in school otherwise my wife and i would home school them.
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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 08:50 AM
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2. Merit pay for teachers. When are they installing the video cameras?
Edited on Wed Mar-11-09 08:51 AM by roody
Oh yeah, test score tells it all. Have any of these douche bags ever looked at the tests that the children take? If they sat down and took one, they would change their thinking. And are we cutting spending on the test/test prep industry?
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T Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 08:52 AM
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3. The fact that practically every educator I have encountered over the last eight years has
trashed NCLB reinforces the idea that on this subject, Pres. Obama is totally wrong.

I guess the approach may be better than "Is our children learning" but not by much.
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BonnieJW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 08:57 AM
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4. I'm sure I am not alone
when I say that I have experienced truly terrible teachers who were protected by the union and continued to "teach" for many years. I had a teacher in the 8th grade who would assign 100 pages of history to read in class every day while he read the newspaper. My daughter had an algebra teacher who showed up drunk every day. When I complained to the principal, he said there was nothing he could do. A union is only as good as its standards. Blanket protection of all members regardless of performance is useless.
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T Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 09:11 AM
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7. Anecdotal "information" does not make good policy. The system is not perfect, by any means.
But "teaching to the test" should not be the goal of education. Under NCLB, that is exactly what happens.

Education needs to be a higher priority in this country. It deserves much more funding and, yes, some modification to make it better.

But to put someone in charge who is dedicated to the destruction of public education is disgusting. It is the same as what the pukes did to the EPA, HHS, HUD, etc.

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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 04:25 PM
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14. You need merit pay to fire people who show up to work drunk?
I did not know that. I suppose that drunk should get merit pay because your kid and her friends are smart enough to raise the average test score in class to win her teacher a bonus.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 04:28 PM
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16. I believe you that you were upset by a teacher that made you read a lot.
Not the bit about the drunk.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 09:02 AM
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5. As a former teacher I was very upset upon learning of Duncan's appointment
as well as what I heard yesterday about merit pay for teachers. Big mistake. IMHO NCLB was designed for the systematic demise of the public school system. Put that premise with Duncan and merit pay I think we have a winner(s): private education and charter schools. This is fine if we want public education to build a permanent under-class. I am horrified for what will be asked of teachers and for what our students will be subjected to, to acheive this under-class outcome.

Thanks for posting!
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 09:04 AM
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6. Obama needs to stop listening to whoever is advising him
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 09:42 AM
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9. He knew enough about education to choose the best for his daughters
Parents can be the best judges of the education system because they have a personal and real time investment in it.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 04:29 PM
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18. Yeah and he chose to take his daughters out of the system his appointee destroyed.
Your point? That Obama can take his daughters out of the system but stick the rest of America with the garbage he himself rejected? That's a man of the people, right there. :eyes:
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 09:35 AM
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8. Still throwing our kids under the bus.
WTF!
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 09:44 AM
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10. I agree. K&R
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gblady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 09:50 AM
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11. I hear so much criticism...
yet have not heard what folks would like to have happen...
what is your idea of a great educational system???
..anyone?

the one we have now is truly broken and ineffective...
what would you have replace it?
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 12:59 PM
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12. Why is this so difficult?
You give the schools enough money to succeed and don't spend it all on wars of choice. You teach the damn basics. You don't spend half the school year getting ready for high-stakes tests. The kids that get it quickly go to advanced classes, the ones who don't get remedial classes, the rest stick with the regular curriculum. You attract good teachers with good money. The principal has the right to decide if a teacher isn't up to par for his/her school and to hire/fire whomever he/she wants based on a performance evaluation. Just like any other job. Hey I'm a Union guy, but what's more important, 25 kids' education or one teacher's job? Give clear and specific expectations, and if the teacher doesn't measure up to the standards then they can apply elsewhere after being fired. And if a school isn't doing well as a whole, the principal is replaced by the school district. You don't tie funding to performance - all the schools in the public school system need to be adequately funded. If anything, you give MORE funding to under-performing schools, not less, and let the people who actually LIVE in that district decide who's gonna be in charge of spending it. What is so damned difficult here? I just don't get it.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 04:48 AM
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23. Spend money and provide the kind of education
Obama's daughters (and mine) received. (mine were NOT at such an expensive school as Sidwell, but at parochial schools.)

There ARE better ways, and whatever keeps many/most public schools from adopting them must be removed.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 04:47 AM
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22. More testing isn't the answer.
I think schools should be given more freedom to choose what they want to teach and how. Let parents pick among local schools.
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guruoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 04:15 PM
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13. Let us not forget that the Sec. of Education doesn't write US education policy...
The White House writes policy, and the Sec. of Education sees that it is carried out.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 04:27 PM
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15. So we shouldn't worry that Obama appointed a monster, because he's the one making policy.
And someone who of his own free-will who appoints a monster who happens to be his college basketball buddy is someone I'm supposed to trust. Get real. Trying to apologize for this is grotesque.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 04:29 PM
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17. I know I trust a guy who calls Obama "The One" to tell me who his bad cabinet picks are.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 04:33 AM
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20. What an elegant deduction.
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kaygore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 04:30 AM
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19. Gotta love Greg Palast
My thoughts exactly when I heard that Duncan was Obama's choice.

I thought that I have given my last dime and devoted months of my life to get change elected. Boy was I fooled! First, shuting the door on single-payer and now shutting the door on American education.

Way to go Obama!
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 04:36 AM
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21. Let's hope state and local governments promptly ignore any new federal intiatives...
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