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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 08:24 PM
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Florida Department of Unemployment wants my Bank Acct # and PIN #...
at 9 p.m. tonight I received a call from the Florida Workforce Innovation.. (aka) Unemployment Office.

I was quite thrilled since I have been trying to make contact with them since Novermber of 2008 with no luck. They do not return calls, answer the phone or respond to e-mails.

Tonight , a man named "Andrew" called and said he wanted to "help" me with my unemployment claim.. but he needed my Pin # and Acct #?

He left 2 call back numbers 800-204-2408 Ext 2418 and (407) 228-1503.

I wonder if there could be some fraud at the admisnistrative level in Florida Government? Just yesterday Rep. Mike Bennett (R-Bradenten) proposed drug testing for all people who are receiving unemploymnet.

His rationale is that people who are "sitting around collecting unemployment" are more prone to do drugs so he doesnt want funds going towards a drug habit.

Maybe we need to Drug test the honorable members of the Florida House and Senate?

Anyway.. I am NOT giving out my Pin Number.. Duh....?
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 08:26 PM
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1. I guess not, you don't give your pin # out to anyone.... What the hell is wrong with...
that ass, asking for that? Duh...
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 08:26 PM
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2. Pass it on to the FDLC, there are a lot of scams like this going around.
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marew Donating Member (854 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 08:27 PM
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3. Sounds very fishy to me.
I'd give him nothing.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 08:28 PM
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4. Dude, you're being scammed.
NO ONE legit asks for your PIN. Even your own bank...at the most, they'll give you to a new generic PIN after which you can change your old one. But I've simply never, ever heard of any legitimate person asking for a PIN.

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Sebass1271 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 08:30 PM
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5. I am also receiving unemployment (for the first time in my life)
I live in Florida and also received a call from the same person. I did give him my account number, but not my pin#. I told him I did not want to provide him with my personal bank information that if he saw any problem with that to then mail a check to my home. - he then said it was ok and proceeded with the transaction and conversation.

I must say i have been unemployed for two months now and I still have not received any unemployment checks. The person from the unemployment office told me i should be getting a first check this coming Friday.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 08:30 PM
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6. do NOT do that under ANY circumstances
no reputable place would EVER ask you to do that
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 08:31 PM
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7. Don't do it. It's a scam.
Man, how do these people get the phone number list? :grr:
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 08:34 PM
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8. That is what I am trying to figure out...?
How did these people get my cell phone records from unemployment information?
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Sebass1271 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 08:42 PM
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10. I am going to call the numbers you listed.
tomorrow to confirm this is a goverment agency.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 08:34 PM
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9. Neither number has anything listed for it on AnyWho.
Why don't you call the numbers and ask them which department they are in? Ask for the guy who called you. Ask him if he is a paid government employee or a contractor.

Get a feeling of what you're dealing with then report it, if necessary, so that obedient persons aren't taken.
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 08:43 PM
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11. routing #'s are easy enough to find
however, PINs are not. I hope to God you did not give it to him!

:kick:

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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 08:44 PM
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12. He told you that about the funds going to a drug habit?
Sadly, some people might actually fall for that.
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Belial Donating Member (503 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 08:45 PM
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13. Thank You Freedom of Information Act..
For those folks that are NOT aware.. our Govt is one of the largest distributors of our Private information.. Just have to know where to ask.. Cannot wait until all of my medical records are under one roof..
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 08:51 PM
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14. This number gets me nowhere 800-204-2408 Ext 2418
"Enter the pin number you wish, followed by the pound key"

You say he left that number for you to call back? Odd...
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 08:52 PM
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15. Yes.. he left both those numbers as "proof". He quickly hung up when I refused PIN#.
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Political Tiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 08:53 PM
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16. Definitely a SCAM!
You should call the Florida Attorney General's Office at 866-966-7226 or go to the Attorney General's website at myfloridalegal.com.
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 08:54 PM
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17. Are U serious??????????
Somebody calls you at 9:30 at night and tells you they are from a State agency?
they work at night????

Bull...

NO agency asks for bank routing info. over the phone. they have to send a letter/fom and have it signed by you.

All this "Andrew" ( Andrew, get it? Hurricane Andrew..get it?) has to do is call enough numbers and he will sooner or later hit on someone who is filing for unemployment in Fla.
If he gets a number where no one has filed, he just has to hang up.
He can do it faster if he robo-calls, you get a recorded message and he comes on the line.

Report the number to the Feds.
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 08:54 PM
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18. Try the FL Attorney General's web site here:
http://myfloridalegal.com/

There are links there regarding consumer protection and crime and fraud protection tips.
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 08:55 PM
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19. I just called a friend who works at Fla. Unemployment - it is a scam
The agency is completely undermanned - they do not have the personnel to follow up or even keep up with all the claims.

By the way, the Agency for Workforce Innovation is hiring - my friend says they are doubling their workforce.

http://www.floridajobs.org/
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 08:58 PM
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20. Comments about 4072281503 number:
Edited on Tue Mar-10-09 09:01 PM by Ian David
Comments about 4072281503 number:

faith - 15 Sep 2008
I got called by this number more than 4 times today and no messages being left. It is very annoying. Then when I tried to call the number back, it took me straight to a directory option with no names. If this was unemployment office they would leave a message saying so.

AV - 28 Feb 2009
A lady called me from this number saying it's unemployment and then asking for my SS#. I promptly hung up. Any government unemployment office would NEVER call on a Saturday, and would NEVER ask for your social. Typically, you should have a password -- the one you use to log in to unemployment claims online.

More:
http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-407-228-1503




4072281503
Got a call from 407-228-1503? Report it and help to identify who and why is calling from this number.

4
AV - 28 Feb 2009
Please don't fall for it, it's a scam. They called me today saying it's the unemployment office and asking for my SS#. I hung up. The unemployment office does not call on Saturdays. And Florida (where I live) can barely pay govt. jobs between Mon-Fri. I called back to check and their fake phone tree was a dead giveaway telling me there had been an "error" and I could not leave a message. I was about to tell them I had reported them to the Better Business Bureau and that I would expose them online ASAP.

RJ - 4 Mar 2009
AT&T FILED SUIT IN THE U S DISTRICT OF GA COURTS TO GO AFTER THESE CROOKS. CALL AT&T #404-927-7400 READ ARTICLES!

http://www.rcrwireless.com/article/20090205/WIRELESS/902059987/-1#




Michael - 6 Mar 2009
I got a couple of calls from this number, they said they're calling from the "Unemployment Office of Florida's Orlando Office." She stated she was calling in response to an email I sent. First, I never sent an email. Second, I changed my number to my landline with Unemployment yet this number keeps calling my cell phone. Third, it's not called the "Unemployment Office of Florida" it's the Agency for Workforce Innovation, they never say unemployment office. Fourth, everything government in FL is based out of Tallahassee so no matter what there would only be 850 numbers, none from any other area code. Though they do have field offices for people to go and file paperwork and stuff, unless you were specifically waiting for a call from someone at that office, any calls from AWI would be from an 850-number. I got into with a guy earlier when I called back the number who at first told me he never heard of the person who left a message on my voicemail and then got upset when I refused to give him my social security number. I would beware of this number. I know it's pretty much impossible to get someone on the 800-number, but I would suggest trying that or finding a number yourself on the AWI website.



More:
http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/4072281503



AT&T Mobility lawsuit tackles autodialing telemarketers, claims ‘annoyance and intrusion’
February 5 2009 - 1:43 pm ET | Jeffrey Silva | RCR Wireless News
AT&T Mobility filed a lawsuit in Georgia federal court to crack down on autodial telemarketers offering wireless consumers extended automobile warranties, making it the second national wireless operator to pursue litigation to halt the practice. The carrier’s lawsuit alleges the telemarketers used spoofing techniques to disguise the callers’ origin.

“ATTM brings this action to preserve the privacy of its subscribers and ATTM company official-use accounts through entry of an injunction prohibiting defendants’ illegal conduct and an award of statutory and common law damages,” stated AT&T Mobility in the 20-page suit filed in U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Georgia.

The No. 2 wireless provider, headquartered in Atlanta, said the telemarketing at issue is prohibited by the Telephone Consumer Protection Act and a Federal Communications Commission rule requiring telemarketers to transmit caller identification numbers.

Elizabeth Lordan, a spokesperson at the Federal Trade Commission, said such telemarketing also appears to violate the agency’s Telemarketing Sales Rules governing the National Do Not Call Registry. Lordan said she is not aware of any completed FTC investigations involving autodial-based extended auto warranty telemarketing. Lordan also said she was unable to say whether the FTC has any probes in progress.

<snip>

Because spoofing is inherently integral to this kind of telemarketing, figuring out who is behind the enterprise is itself a challenge. AT&T Mobility said one number alone — 800-219-7425 — made more than 13 million calls to wireless numbers through telecom carriers Paetec Communications, Global Crossing and MCI Inc./Verizon Communications Inc. AT&T said it will need to subpoena those companies and others to determine the owner and operator of various spoofed phone numbers.

More:
http://www.rcrwireless.com/article/20090205/WIRELESS/902059987/-1




Your search - 800-204-2408 - did not match any documents.




For Immediate Release
March 5, 2009

Contact:
Robby Cunningham, (850) 245-7130
Attorney General’s Press Office, (850) 245-0150

Attorney General, Agency for Workforce Innovation Warn Floridians About Unemployment Claims Scams
~ Jobless Floridians reminded there is no charge for filing unemployment claims ~



TALLAHASSEE, FL – Attorney General Bill McCollum and Agency for Workforce Innovation (AWI) Interim Director Cynthia R. Lorenzo today issued a joint consumer advisory warning Floridians to be wary of companies offering to file unemployment compensation claims for a fee. Recent reports from other states indicate consumers have signed up for such services, only to later discover unemployment claims were never filed on their behalf. Of equal concern is that consumers have also provided their social security numbers, thinking they were dealing with state agencies.

“We are dedicated to helping Floridians receive the unemployment benefits to which they are entitled,” said AWI Interim Director Lorenzo. “The Agency for Workforce Innovation offers free, convenient and secure online filing at our website, http://www.floridajobs.org.

“It really is unthinkable that a con artist would try to victimize someone trying to receive assistance in a time of need,” said Attorney General Bill McCollum. “I encourage Floridians to remain vigilant to prevent falling for this scam.”

Some states have reported complaints from consumers who have conducted internet searches for “unemployment claims” or similar terms which provided results including private companies. Consumers are then directed to provide their social security numbers and receive e-mails from the companies saying their claim is being processed. Complaints from other states also indicated that consumers were told that for a fee, they could receive help on their resumes, and while terms and conditions are posted on the websites, they aren’t always readily apparent to consumers.

Attorney General McCollum and the Agency for Workforce Innovation encouraged consumers to be wary of providing personal information such as social security numbers to unknown entities. Floridians are also reminded that there is no charge for filing unemployment claims.

Consumers who believe they may have been victimized by potentially deceptive or unfair practices should contact the Attorney General’s Office by calling 1-866-966-7226 or by visiting the Attorney General’s website at http://www.myfloridalegal.com.

More:
http://www.floridajobs.org/publications/news_rel/ClaimScam.htm



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Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 08:59 PM
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21. Fraud? In Florida? Nah, can't/wouldn't/doesn't happen
:sarcasm:

You're right to be "en garde".
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 08:59 PM
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22. They want your PIN#???
The ONLY reason to want your PIN number is to WITHDRAW funds from your account.

Danger, Will Robinson!
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 09:00 PM
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23. >lib2DaBone - can I get your pin# too...?
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