Is GHW crying?

[notadmblnd]

If she's doing well, why is he crying? Yes, seeing the patient after the procedure is traumatic, but hospital personnel prepares the family for what they will see. Could there be a hidden message?

[demwing]

1. Wow- they say a picture paints a thousand words...

Wish you had one :)

[notadmblnd]

8. he was on MSNBC. I thought he was busting out laughing at first

but the talking head did say he was emotional.

[SoCalDem]

61. He knows they have most of their time on earth, behind them

and it does make one wistful.. I feel it too, sometimes.. We just had our 39th anniversary, and it starts to hit home, that each one could be the last.. You don't think that way at 5 years or 10 or even 20, but somewhere around 40 you realize that there are far fewer ahead, and most are in the past..

[liberalhistorian]

67. Exactly. And I'm only 44, but I just buried my nearly

lifelong best friend, who was my age, and the reality of mortality is really beginning to make itself known. And it ain't pleasant.

[DeschutesRiver]

72. I too think that is it

We are coming up on our 29th anniversary (and congrats to you two on your 39 years together) and it does make you think all sorts of things, like how different life will be without the other one here.

And same deal just on the old age thing - I don't ever recall either of us thinking a bit about growing old until recently. And if it is not me, it is dh bringing up the subject of how we have more time behind us than in front of us.

Part of it too is that the older you get, the more that people you know or know of start dying. I just saw an obit about someone I'd known in a hobby I did, dead and she was 10 years younger than me. In the course of reading the obit, I saw too that her mom had died (who was 10 years old then my dh - had last seen her less than 2 years ago). And while I knew them, the father had unexpectedly passed away - so virtually a whole family passed within an 8 year period. It takes a toll when you start focusing on such things once you hit a certain age.

Wistful is a perfect description.

[eleny]

2. Don't pay the sociopathic old fart any mind

He blubbers at the drop of a hat.

[GentryDixon]

32. He was probably thinking about poor Jeb's missed chance.

:cry:

[tularetom]

3. His eyes are too close to his kidneys

He's a frickin crybaby. Worse than Boner even. He cries over everyfuckinthing.

I wish the old hag a speedy recovery and an even speedier departure from the spotlight.

[alsame]

4. I can't conjure up an iota of sympathy for any member of that

family. No matter how much they cry,

[WatchWhatISay]

5. My husband had this exact same surgery

also done by Dr. Lawrie in 1999, except that he had two vavles replaced.

Nobobdy told me that when we saw him for the first time after surgery he would look like a corpse with his chest being pumped up and down by machines. His coloring was awful and he showed no signs of life. It was very upsetting. Fortunately when we saw him a few hours later, he looked completely different, which was a huge relief. I cried after I first saw him.

By the way he is doing great ten years later, although one of the repairs did not hold and had to be redone in 2000.

[notadmblnd]

13. Wow. I thought it SOP

When my husband had heart surgery 15 years ago. I was given a tour of the Thoracic ICU and was tol exactly what to expect,catheter, drain tubes and ventilator included. Sorry.

[JSK]

36. Babs looked like a corpse 20 years ago. n/t

[The Hope Mobile]

54. Didn't she kinda look like a corpse before this though?

How different can she look?

I'm glad your husband is doing well.

[musette_sf]

56. my mom had this surgery early last year

and since i knew she'd been cooled down and put on a heart-lung machine for hours, I was not surprised that she was blue and on a respirator when i saw her post-op. what did Poppy expect, she was just gonna have a little bo-bo and Band-Aid?

[Vickers]

6. Seems like he either cries or pukes at every public appearance.

:P

[Ilsa]

57. Yeah, I think there is something wrong going on in his brain.

Maybe he's afraid of death, and some sort of organic brain disease is causing him to be unable to control his emotional state in front of others.

Dumbya cries alot, but apparently not about his mother getting sick.

[cynatnite]

7. Age will sometimes make people more emotional, IMO...

add that his wife just had major open heart surgery. It's understandable that anyone would react the same way.

My husband almost passed out when he saw his Dad afterwards.

[uppityperson]

14. Indeed. Even being prepared, it is still a shock and understandable.

I'll bash him for other things, not for crying after Bab's surgery.

[kstewart33]

15. Older people do become more emotional, IMHO.

There are plenty of examples of this. Give the prez a break. It is a very difficult time for him.

[sallyseven]

39. Yes they do become emotional

because if she dies can he be far behind? Oh Oh here comes the god he is going to take her away and then me. boo hoo

[MrPerson]

9. His hopes were crushed again.

[screembloodymurder]

10. Hey, she's the patriarch of the Family.

Cut the guy some slack.

[October]

11. Where?

[burythehatchet]

12. they found another Bush in her uterus. They dusted off the fetus and

and hooked it up to Bar's boob to feast on powdered cream. Poppy was crying tears of joy because another Bush was now on his way to becoming president.

too much?

[Ilsa]

59. OMG! That's hysterical! And gross! Blech, I've lost my appetite! nt

[sufrommich]

16. Some of the comments here are truly beyond the pale. No

matter who he is, mocking his emotions at seeing his wife come out of surgery is just dumb.

[notadmblnd]

19. I don;t think I was mocking him. However, I don't think it would be right to censor

what anyone else has to say about it. In fact, I prefer some of the more honest comments over those who would pretend to care what happens to some of the most cruel and heartless people to have ever walked the earth.

[sufrommich]

23. I'm not "censoring" anybody. Trashing a man's emotional

reaction to his wife's condition because he's "cruel and heartless" is cruel and heartless in itself. Monkey see, monkey do.

[eleny]

21. I wonder how hard he cried when he visit his babes....

When he and Rockefeller cavorted at Rocky's NYC apartment back in the old days.

GW is great at turning on the water works when he has sympathy for himself.

:eyes:

[sufrommich]

24. It's not his lack of sympathy in question. nt

[eleny]

34. It's always about George - a family pattern I've noticed over these many, many years

[burythehatchet]

47. He is a war criminal. He is a traitor. He is the father of another generation of

bastards. Fuck him and his tears. I hope he drops dead from his grief.

on edit: what exactly would a guy have to do to not deserve sympathy?

[graywarrior]

65. LOL

:rofl:

[Captain Hilts]

17. I'm stunned by the lack of sensitivity here. nt

[polmaven]

25. Unbelievable,

isn't it?

[JSK]

38. This evil and corrupt family

is in a large part responsible for the state of the country and the world right now. And they couldn't care less.

While I won't go so far as to wish her ill, the Bush family deserves no sympathy, sensitivity or respect.

[KharmaTrain]

18. Didn't Bill Clinton Go Through A Similar Proceedure?

I recall people saying how gaunt and pale he looked when he spoke just prior to the 2004 elections and right after his surgery.

[Captain Hilts]

30. Yes, he looked bad. He got back on his feet early to campaign for Kerry. nt

[Stevenmarc]

20. He's crying because she's going to survive, he was looking forward to a little extra spending money

[polmaven]

22. He was probably very worried,

and is now relieved. I don't blame him. Heart surgery for an 80+ year old woman is tricky.

[wndycty]

Well if you had any family with health struggles it is very emotional. . .

. . .I don't think anyone should pass judgment on this, we are all human after all.

[notadmblnd]

40. I did not make a judgmental comment

I made no remark that I can see that would indicate that I was ridiculing or mocking or making fun of him. I asked if he was crying and if that could mean her condition is worse than the media says?

The "I'm above it all" crowd jumped right in and ran with it anyway.

The Bushs' have caused a lot of misery in this world and haven't a care for anyone but themselves. I don't blame anyone for not saying nice things about them in their time of crisis.

[wndycty]

42. "If she is doing well why is he crying" WTF was that supposed to mean. . .

. . .heart surgery, even successful ones are emotional for family members, and anyone with a thread of decency would appreciate that.

[notadmblnd]

51. WTF it means is just what I asked.

The worst (diagnosis/surgery) is over. It is said she is doing well, up and joking even. Why is he crying now on TV?

Couple of quick questions though. Why is it ok to berate and make fun of them when they're not on their backs? And what makes one more decent when they don't say mean things when they are?

[onethatcares]

26. why should I disturb my beautiful mind with thoughts of things like that?

n/t

[DS1]

27. The nightmare was almost over.

[tammywammy]

28. My grandfather had a triple bypass a few years ago

Even though afterward we knew he was going to be fine, I still cried like a baby after seeing him in that bed with all those tubes sticking out of him.

There's no way to be fully prepared for seeing a loved one like that.

[Bluebear]

29. I thought she was "sitting up and cracking jokes already" according to the media.

I was looking forward to her resuming working on here triple Axel jump soon.

[nadinbrzezinski]

31. Get a heart, no pun

having seen my dad in there, after open heart, and for god sakes I WAS A MEDIC... not first time I see that.. I know it can be a swirl of emotions

[notadmblnd]

53. What did I say that was heartless?

Granted, I'm not showing any sympathy, but I said nothing heartless.

[nadinbrzezinski]

55. You are making fun of a man who is crying after seeing his wife in ICU

I have no sympathy for the bushes at a political level... but at an emotional level, I do

Perhaps I have that capacity you lack

You know it has a name

Called EMPATHY

Look it up

[notadmblnd]

62. No, I don't see that I was making fun of him.

I'm sorry you read it that way. My OP asked if he was crying, and also inquired as to it possibly being a sign that things are not what the media is reporting. So far people have only inferred that I'm making fun and ridiculing. Perhaps they're only reading into the post what they want to see?

I'm also sure that there are many people out there in the world that are better human beings than I am. what can I say, You're better.:shrug:

[Warpy]

33. An aortic valve replacement is no walk in the park for anybody

and she's old enough to be an extremely poor surgical risk.

I'd say he's got ample reason to cry.

[Fleshdancer]

35. Wouldn't you if this was your spouse?

I don't think there's anything that hospital personnel could say to adequately prepare a person in times like this.

[notadmblnd]

44. No, I didn't cry

I wore my big girl panties that day. I waited in the waiting room for what seemed like forever. I had our families there to show the Dr that there would be someone to answer to if they screwed up, and I wiped the boogers out of my husband's nose and off of the tubing because he would not have wanted people to see him that way. I put on a big smiley face and I was positive. Not just for him but, for our child.

[Fleshdancer]

45. more power to you I suppose. If I were in that position, I know I would cry. n/t

[malaise]

37. He's crying over those memos n/t

[DearAbby]

41. Let's stick with the issues

His wife underwent surgery for crissakes. Stick with the issues, lets not get in the gutter with these people.

[Kalyke]

43. Maybe he's crying becaue she didn't die!

:think:

[Manifestor_of_Light]

46. Crying is absolutely a normal reaction.

My father had a quadruple bypass in 1982, age 71. When he was in intensive care, he looked gray, like a slab of concrete. My sister ran out crying after seeing him. I waited to fall apart until I got home from the hospital.

When my father died in 2000, at the age of 88, he literally looked MUCH better when he was dead and laid out than he did back in 1982 in Intensive Care after the bypass. Even allowing for the undertaker's makeup and lighting.

Strange but true.

[wndycty]

48. Not for partisans on our side who will stoop to the level of the wingnuts

:kick:

[sufrommich]

49. Exactly. nt

[Garbo 2004]

50. GHWB is known for crying in public. Given the circumstances, it's not surprising if

if he appears emotional.

[REP]

52. He's a crybaby; weepy about Jeb; bawling about Babs

Frankly, I could give a shit about him and his odious family. Some old man getting slobbery over his abhorrent wife - waaah.

[Stephanie]

58. Why isn't his family there to take care of him?

It's just weird. He's old. You'd think the children would be there to make sure he is okay as well as their mom.

[Ilsa]

60. Exactly. They know how softhearted GHWB can get. I can understand if

Babs doesn't want visitors, but George looked like he needed comforting.

[grasswire]

63. no, no, no. He started crying about four presidents...

....contacting them today. THAT is what made him cry. He blubbered about "...it's just because of who she is."

Narcissistic family disorder.

[HamdenRice]

64. He's crying because Lucifer stopped by to pay respects and remind them he owns their souls

Staring into the abyss of hell can be a bit disconcerting.

[liberalhistorian]

66. It doesn't matter how much you're "prepared" or

how "strong" you are or think you may be, that is extremely traumatic to see any family member, let alone a spouse of over sixty years, in that condition and after having undergone such serious surgery. Leave the man alone at this time, for Christ's sake, not everything is a "hidden message" or "conspiracy" or something. It's a normal human reaction. I can't believe we're making an issue of this.

[Bluebear]

68. Yeah, you would think he had some sons to be there & tend to him, but no.

Not this family.

[demodonkey]

69. At least they have insurance. Some of us don't have the luxury of healthcare.

If we need an operation, we die -- or lose everything.

[liberalhistorian]

70. Amen to that!

nt

[LittleClarkie]

71. I wish his family well. It must be tough to deal with family stuff in public.

The sight of Nancy at Ron's coffin, needing her family to pull her off the thing because she was overcome, made me blubber like a baby. But then I'd only just lost my dad.

Glad she'd doing better.