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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 04:35 PM
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NYTimes:Breaking News 5:31 PM ET: Senate Keeps Pullout Date in Iraq War Bill
Edited on Tue Mar-27-07 04:36 PM by spanone
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 04:36 PM
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1. YES!
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 04:36 PM
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2. No.
It's getting vetoed. It doesn't matter one damn bit. The Republicans already gave up this fight.
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blitzen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 04:38 PM
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4. of course it will be vetoed...But it will isolate and weaken Bush more...
which is what the 'Pukes in the senate want--so I take this to be good for us.
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Iwasthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 04:39 PM
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6. That's right
Now he HAS to veto it.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 04:41 PM
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7. and the Dems can make some GREAT '08 campaign ads talking about the veto for troop funding.
I would say the repukes who voted for Liebermann's amendment will pay dearly in '08 too.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 04:43 PM
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8. Among other things, this bill = money for the troops
When Bush vetos it, he will be vetoing money for the troops.
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 04:52 PM
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14. I beg to differ.
Edited on Tue Mar-27-07 04:58 PM by swag
Democrats in Congress have now passed a bill that calls for concrete steps to end the Iraq war.

(on edit: actually, they have only defeated an amendment to remove those concrete steps).

If this President will not accept that, his party is going to suffer in 2008 at the hands of Americans who are voting to end this war. And then we will end this war. Today's legislative step was essential.

It's absurd to say that this doesn't matter one damn (sic) bit.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 05:17 PM
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16. I'm trying to be upbeat.
Normally I'm on your side of the fence, but I'm not having the greatest of thoughts about this at the moment.
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meldroc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 04:56 PM
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15. Like chess, always watch several moves ahead.
Of course this bill's going to get vetoed. Pelosi and the House Democrats knew this when they proposed this bill.

It means Bush is going to have to go on record vetoing this bill - which has $122 billion worth of funding "for the troops" (actually, there's already plenty of money from last September's appropriations bill to pay for the troops, and pay for them to make a safe, well-defended withdrawal from Iraq and redeployment back to the U.S.) He's going to have to publicly refuse to "support the troops" in order to make a case to not end a war that is atrociously expensive, unpopular, and bloody.

Trust me, Bush may eventually get his war money, but he's going to come out of this fight smelling like a turd (as if he doesn't already.)
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blitzen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 04:37 PM
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3. Woo-Hoo....Republican strategery that plays into Dems hand
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 04:39 PM
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5. EXCELLENT! Now the Psycho will have to veto it which will take funding away from the troops.
THAT will lay at HIS feet, not the Dems. Take THAT Liebermann!
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 04:44 PM
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9. Senate repugs threw bush* under the bus. Now it's up to him to veto.
They are cowards and mean to the Leader. They all deserve each other.:puke:
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 04:47 PM
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11. and when * vetoes, the repugs will have to make a stand: follow Herr Leader or
Edited on Tue Mar-27-07 04:50 PM by wordpix
go their own way to stay alive in '08. :popcorn: :beer:
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 04:50 PM
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13. Yes! I am loving it. nt
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 04:46 PM
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10. Hagel: "Iraq doesn't belong to the United States!" I love it when repugs flip!
:applause: I am really loving Chuck Hagel these days. :woohoo:
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Iwasthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 04:50 PM
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12. Hahahahaha
Chainy had to come down for nothin... bet he is pissed
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 06:34 PM
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17. Just remember. a Republican is sitting in Katherine Harris's old
Edited on Tue Mar-27-07 06:37 PM by higher class
seat and not Christine Jennings, Dem - due to ES&S voting machines and machine manipulator thieves. And there are more thefts in the ES&S history.
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