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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 12:21 PM
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Poised as we are, on the edge of a truely rotten day,
I would like to say that nothing we are going to suffer is without solution.
Nothing we are going to go through should profit the investing class or the masters of the universe.
Nothing we are about to do should enrich big pharma, or the insurance companies.
We will be doing a lot of welding, concrete work, and laying a lot of electrical cable for a new kind of grid.
A lot of shiny steel rail is going down.
A lot of Solar panels, a lot of wind, a lot of smaller farms with more organic farming.
A lot more carbon neutral.
By the time this is over, we will be a far different America than we are now. And in all probability, a far better one to live in.

Keep that clearly in mind in the days ahead.

love,
Fovea.
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 12:23 PM
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1. Thanks Fovea
for the images of hope.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 12:25 PM
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2. With poetry like yours, no day is rotten...
Thank you.

K&R

:hug:
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elizfeelinggreat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 12:52 PM
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3. k & r
We need to keep our hope alive :) Thanks!
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 12:54 PM
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4. Beautiful post, thank you! K & R nt
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FredStembottom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 12:57 PM
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5. Thanks, Fovea!
There is no avoiding this. The debt upon debt upon debt simply has to unravel.
Here we go!
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 01:01 PM
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6. The possibilities are great
All we have to do is face the necessity to innovate and it will lead us to a better day. The alternative has proven to be a failure.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 01:04 PM
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7. I keep thinking about sci-fi movies about the future..
that show entire cities rebuilt with modern technology. Something I have dreamed about since I was a kid.

I think this is exactly where we're headed after we get over the major hump that the "conservatives" saddled us with.
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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 01:11 PM
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8. Deliberately not profiting the investors is a dumb idea.
If investing in things ceases to be profitable, people stop investing. In a nutshell, that's what a recession is.

"Profiting the investors less that under Bush" is one thing - his tax cuts for the rich were clearly excessive. But "not profiting the investors" is just foolish.



It's probably also a lot easier to understand economics if you think in terms of "investors" rather than in terms of "the investing class".
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Waiting For Everyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 01:27 PM
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10. Investors aren't relevant to this. Everything isn't about them.
Edited on Mon Mar-02-09 01:28 PM by Waiting For Everyman
Uncle Sam is the investor this time. So profit isn't necessary, and doing it without the investors' "cut" of it will save us a lot on the bottom line. There IS such a thing as public investment, you know. (At least there used to be, before RWers started selling them to their friends.)



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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 04:23 PM
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11. There will be no private investment in the new commons.
I suspect that by the time this all unwinds, the entire nature of public corporations will change significantly. Banks (federally owned and supervised) will be the big investors for awhile.

By the time investors come back, the pool of things to invest in will be smaller, and money invested will be money that works, as opposed to money that just kites.
I suspect corporate citizenry, limited liability, and other cherished elements of the investing class, like its publicizing risk are over.

And while I am sure it is uncomfortable to talk about class, look at the differences in the Finance bailout and the auto company bailout.

Then tell me class is not involved.

I have hope for middle class and working class America not so much for the gated community crowd. Believe it or not, we can do without about 90% of the Uber Rich.
Unless Kevin Phillips is blowing smoke up our asses, we should demote them to the merely rich class.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 01:21 PM
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9. knr
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a la izquierda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 04:36 PM
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12. I walk through every day thinking...
"everything is gonna be alright."
I go home to my darling husband on Friday. And it will be alright.
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